I don't get it....
 

Why is it when "I" post stuff up here about "Marketing & Sales" things that "I" do (that could be beneficial to some viewers here) someone has to take something I said....which has NOTHING to do with the "Topic" of the post...and "work it and work it and work it"?

MY use of the word "Money" has little or NOTHING to do with the MAIN POINT of the post!

Unless I'm missing something...."here"!

Don Alm

P.S. My use of the word "work" above, in MY humble opinion, means "BELABOR". (It's in Webster's)

Re: $3,040 Today!
 

Ankesh,

Thanks for jumping in.


Because if we take the physical representation of the numbers - such as Two peas or Two marbles - and place them next to another two, we will See we have Four Marbles not Five. It is inconvenient to carry around a bag of marbles so we can count them as needed. And inconvenient to carry around an abacus for the same purpose. So we use Figures to represent the factual. Those figures are a Part of the Written language. In maths, that language is across the board. In the written version of the spoken word - and even the spoken word - things are not the same.

In the USA the word is spelt "Color" in Australia it is "Colour".

In the USA the word Fanny means your Bottom, in Australia it is a woman's "Groin" - to keep it Polite.

The reason numbers do not suffer the same fate is because there are only ten of them, in different arrangements. Plus, as the word now revolves around Money, the world of Global Commerce and their Constant interaction with each other, dictates the usage stays the same.


YES!!! Now you are getting it. Those who cry out that we have No Security of our Paper Money because it is Not backed by Gold and is only Backed by our Belief in it, miss the point that Gold Only has Value also because of our Belief in it.

Let me jump in here and go on a side tangent with regards to the Everyone Believes thing. *I*, personally, do Not believe Gold has Value, nor our paper Fiat money. Yet I still desire it because I need it as a Tool of Trade because Other People also desire it and will not do business with me Unless I have it. Thus, I suppose, you Could say that money, as we know it to be currently, is the result of the greatest Network Effect there is.

Onward.


Ah... for the sake of an "In". I live IN that hell...

When I was in high school there was a kid that would call people names. The odd thing was, he would call them a name which was a Verb. I used to tell him that's like calling someone a Run or a Jump.

With Kennedy's thing, I realise I need to change it to...

If you cannot make money without your own money, you won't be able to make money with your own money or larger amounts of other people's money.


First, let me say, if the Meaning is conveyed - I Understand what you mean - than Effective Communication has taken place regardless of the words, gestures or terminology used. However, that is a darn Big IF - IF the meaning is conveyed.

Also, I don't HAVE to do anything. If YOU choose to try to get by with Symbolic Correctness, that is your Choice. I choose not to.

The sad fact is, people use words without knowing Why they use those words. In fact, people do a Lot of things without knowing Why. I know why... it's because it's been a Tradition to use those words and people never question their traditions. (Before we knew better, we thought the sun Did rise and set. Now that we know better, tradition sees us use those old language patterns even though they are incorrect.)

Now in the case of Don's word choice and Dan's, both were related to Money and appeal to the Greed Gland and reek of Hype. And it's Prevalent in the Make Money arena.

For intance, you wrote...


There are Two things to note of the above...

Thing # 1: The fist word "Most" is often ignored - as is Almost, Virtually and other similar words - so the Apparent meaning is that Everyone got rich that way. I call these words, Covering Words because they allow the writer a way out if someone jumps up and says, not everyone got rich that way.

Thing # 2: You said "they took advantage of..." instead of implying that they didn't Work for it. Because we ALL work for money - even those who tell you the rich don't work for money - it's just that what one person means by the word Work and what another person means are different, and When this work took place is Left out.

To expand on the When... if I work a Job I will be paid either daily, weekly, fortnightly or monthly. If I work for myself in a trade I will be paid daily, monthly, or even three monthly - depending on what arrangements I have with my clients and whether they are citizens or small or large companies. Either way, I work now and get paid later.

If I put money in the bank and earn interest it could be said I did not work for the money - as in, trade my labour for the money made, as you pointed out. However, I DID do work, in selecting the account in the first place, opening the account and then putting money into it.

So again, I did the work now and get paid later.

The main difference being, my Rate of pay and What I did to make it. No matter what, though, I Still did work.

Now it just so happens that, "making money without money" and "not working for money" are usually used by people who have something to sell you. These aren't phrases used in normal everyday conversation.

Oh, and to be even more Nit Picky... there is Only One Way To Make Money. It goes by many different names but it is still the same one way. Understand this - and associated incorrect word usage - is often the difference between those with large amounts of money and those without. Know what that one way is?

And to quote the Merlvingian...

Why is the only real source of power. Without it you are powerless.

Michael Ross

Re: I don't get it....
 

Don,

Thanks for asking.

*I* jumped in and Corrected the phrase because It Was Wrong.

I have seen others jump in and not correct Phraes but Your Numbers because They Were Wrong.

The simple solution, instead of crying hard done by, is to stop posting wrong stuff.

For instance, you just wrote "MY use of the word "Money" has little or NOTHING to do with the MAIN POINT of the post" and yet it wasn't your use of the word Money I Corrected. It was your phrase "it does NOT take "money to make money"". So even in this simple post of yours you Got It Wrong. See it?

Michael Ross

Reminds me of....
 

My good friend Stan who's a "far leftie". Whenever a discussion comes up about our President....if he can't whack George W for the "topic" of his speech or interview...he whacks him for his "pronunciation"...especially of the definitive article "the".

When da Pres is giving a speech..."the" comes out as "tha". And when he's being interviewed or holding a press conference..."the" comes out as "ta".

So...Stan...instead of commenting about the MAIN issues the Pres was talking about...ol' Stan brings up George W's use of "ta".

Same difference.

We all look at Stan, shrug our shoulders, roll out eyes back, pause a minute to take a deep breath and go onto a more serious topic.

Don Alm

Re: $3,040 Today!
 

Hi Guys..I see a lot of what my grandma used to call quibbling. Since she was an important influence in my young life, I tend to agree with her.

Re: $3,040 Today!
 

Re: Reminds me of....
 

Making an Incorrect statment about making money, and the way someone pronounces the word The are completely different. Surely even you can see this.

Michael Ross

Re: $3,040 Today!
 

Capt,

Thanks for chiming in.

If we cannot talk Accurately about money and any Corrections are deemed Quibling, what can we talk accurately about? Or is this question just Quibling too?

Michael Ross

Re: $3,040 Today!
 

Why is it 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9
instead of 0-1-2-4-3-7-6-5-9-8 ?

(Yes there is a meaning behind the numeric symbols. But hardly anyone knows the inherent "meaning" yet everyone has the same inherent "value" attached to these numerals. I find it very interesting how these symbols work because of tradition. Cult / religious leaders know that symbols last even after people have forgotten the meaning! Very few businesses have discovered this yet.)

"Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?"
- Steven Wright
:D

Anyways, forget about it because that is not as interesting as:


You can't leave that as a puzzle Michael! Do tell us what the way is please.

Re: $3,040 Today!
 

It's quibbling, not quibling. I'm sure there is no problem pointing this out, since if we cannot talk accurately about the spelling of quibbling and any corrections are deemed quibbling, what can we accurately talk about?