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Dien Rice January 16, 2002 09:31 PM

Re: Well... No Real Magic There.
 
Hi Jeremy,

> I have noticed that some people in this
> forum give freely of their knowledge and
> experience (like Don Alm, Dien Rice, and
> Gordon Alexander). And yet some, who ask for
> advice and help, when they get assistance
> they act very appreciative. And yet, when
> THEY are asked for help they don't lift a
> finger to help others. Why is this? Is it
> just fear?

Naturally, I think it's great when people share their experience and advice.... However, nobody is forced to.

Often people who share information are selling a similar product to what they are talking about.... Which is fine, because it's win/win.... Forum readers win from the information they share here, and they also win since they will sell more copies of their products too.

I see Sowpub as a kind of "Mastermind group" - that is, a group of people who get together to share ideas and experiences to help each other succeed. I've purposely tried to steer Sowpub discussions to high quality topics - I prefer "quality" over "quantity". That way, we can succeed together....

I hope that those who do receive value from the discussions here will also give back as well, just as others have helped them, it's also good to do the same, and give others a helping hand too. :)

However, it has to come from your own sense of wanting to help others, which is a great sentiment.

Thanks,

Dien Rice

Joe D. January 18, 2002 07:57 AM

Are You Refering To Me...
 
Jeremy?

If so... it wasn't for lack of me wanting
to share to a point!

It's more due to the lack of time
I've had lately. I've barely had 2 or 3
minutes a day to even scan my favorite boards.

But here is what we use when we call, it's
basically a variation of Mike Rodman's "take
away" opening.

***
Hello Mr. Owner,

My name is Joe with eClub Rewards, and we've
developed a simple and affordable way for
businesses like yours to create and maintain
an email database of your customers that gives
you the ability to market to that list for a
fraction of the cost of direct mail.

Now... I'm not sure if you would even qualify
for our program... but what I'd like to do
if you are interested is to schedule a time
where we can sit down for no more than 10
minutes in order to find out more about your business... and to determine if in fact you
could benefit from our services.

Fair enough?

****

That's basically it. It's probably not even
very good (by a PRO'S standards)but it's working.

Now... I HOPE you were not refering to me when
you stated that some take but don't give. Because
that's not completely true.

But YES! I do prefer to give some of my
secrets and strategies behind closed doors.

I took an idea (Don's), put thought and work
into it. Then found Jim E's course and bought
it. Then more thought and work. Then found
Gordon's get off your ass and do something
course. Bought it. More thought and work,
then finally some action. And here I am.

But I'm not going to give every piece of the
puzzle I've worked hard for away here on the
forum. You can get the same info I got from
the above places. That should be more than
enough for those who really want it.

So I'll give to a point.

Ask Debbie, or John Henry Carlson, who politely
emailed me privately. I shared much with them.

But I am not hip to giving away the farm I've
worked so hard for over the last years. And
remember I don't have a product I'm trying to
sell you guys either.

Just food for thought.

Joe Delbecq

> I have noticed that some people in this
> forum give freely of their knowledge and
> experience (like Don Alm, Dien Rice, and
> Gordon Alexander). And yet some, who ask for
> advice and help, when they get assistance
> they act very appreciative. And yet, when
> THEY are asked for help they don't lift a
> finger to help others. Why is this? Is it
> just fear?

Dan DeVine January 27, 2002 08:38 AM

A couple questions.
 
Mr. Delbecq, I salute you for what you have accomplished with this business idea. I have a couple questions I hope you will answer. Did you mean to say in one of your posts that you are going to let the pizza chain have access to the email addresses you collect? If so, wouldn't this make it easy for them to eventually take over the marketing job you are doing?

Another question concerns the payment you are receiving. How are you charging the chain? Are you multiplying the number of stores, by the fee you would normally charge one store?

Dan


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