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Can you help me evaluate?
My "coach", Gordon Alexander, whose 10-day program got me this far with my ebook, has suggested I ask this question to all who have visited my site (URL below) and looked at the sales pitch for my book.
A little background: According to my site counter, I've received over 100 hits at Make Up Tips for Teens (http://www.seatoskyzine.com/makeup)in the past 5 days, and many have come from you dear people at sowpub. Yet, with all these hits I've had no sales of my ebook. As Gordon puts it, "people have not voted with their wallets". As part of my learning process, he wants me to ask you, dear friends, why not? Be honest. Why didn't you buy the book? Why didn't you vote "yes" with your wallets? I'm learning how to create a product and market it successfuly. You can help me, and possibly others who want to do the same thing, figure out what makes something sell or not. I need to know why I didn't succeed in selling my product to any of you. Was it the site? Was it the "sales pitch"? Was it the price of the ebook? Was it the cover? And no, I'm not trying to guilt anybody into buying it! I just want to learn, so I need your feedback. Help me complete this part of my "homework", by giving me an honest evaluation. You have my gratitude! Thanks, Anya. Make-Up Tips for Teens ![]() |
Here's my 2 cents....
Hi Anya,
I had a look at your site (I must have been one of your "hits"!).... But I'm not really in the market you want, since I don't have any teenage children, for example (I'm still unmarried, for one thing).... I think the most likely reason is because probably "Sowpub" types may not be the best fit for the kind of market you seek, since most of us here are interested in business, writing, investing, and all that stuff.... :) What I would suggest is try to promote it in some places where people who are looking for this product would buy it.... For example, maybe places where parents might talk about problems of having teenage daughters. (This is just a guess, you probably have a better idea than I do where the target market you seek might hang out....) I don't know precisely where, but I'm sure there must be forums like that somewhere.... You could participate in any makeup related discussions (which would establish your credibility), and always leave a link to your site at the end of your posts after your name.... I think it's probably mostly a matter of approaching the right target market, and trying to make sure that target market is aware of your product.... That's my 2 cents. :) - Dien Rice |
Re: Here's my 2 cents....
Anya, I agree with Dien. With the right market, it'd work well. It's a very interesting subject for teens.
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Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Hi Anya,
Like Dien, I was one of those who visited your site. I have a son who is 19 and a daughter who is 5. As Dien pointed out, this isn't where you will find your target market... not really. 100 hits? There are 7 images and one web page on your homepage. Each of these produces a call on the server and counts for a hit. So 100 hits means about 12 visitors, providing they only looked at the home page. If what you had received was targeted traffic, rather then general traffic, in all reality if your sales copy is successful you might have gotten 2 sales. When I use to sell off-line, the average was about 1 sale out of three leads. These leads were all targeted to a certain degree. Carl Galleti, who is IMHO a brilliant marketer says you can make two sales off-line for every one, online. So, with great ad copy, you might make 1 sale out of every 6 visitors. Dien and I were two, untargeted visitors, Gordon, possibly a third. With a random audience it isn't a surprise you didn't make a sale. You need to offer a commission to other site owners who offer content and products targeted towards teens, and submit articles to publishers who send regular newsletters to your target market. You need to add some stickiness to your website and offer your own newsletter. These things would be a good start. Then once you're sure your audience is targeted, you can start trying to determine a conversion ratio of visitors to buyers. Let's not stop there though. If you can make two sales off-line, to every one online, have you considered putting something together that you can sell off-line as well? Best Regards, Steve MacLellan homebusiness-websites.com |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Great website/like the colors, graphics
etc... Now what confuses me: are you selling an ebook "directly to teens" or "to their parents?". It's been my experience teens generally don't do what their parents want them to do when it comes to personal grooming(there are exceptions to every rule) I would do research to find out if teens are interested in makeup tips and if they are ordering online. As teens are sensitive to the criticism of others I don't think I would mention the frustration their parents have with their makeup UNLESS you are going to aim your ebook to the adult population(parents of teens) But that poses a problem because most teens and pre- teens seek advice from magazines and their peers. As you know from your personal experience with modeling schools: teens want tips to look like a model or help them to become one...Perhaps you could do an online e/book with these secrets and leave out any negative references to how teens look... I think you should hang out in the area of the internet where teens communicate with one another and find out if you have the tips they want and if they buy online and market your tips to them...but change the title and the orientation of your copy on both pages and aim it at teens directly instead of any reference to their parents or what their parents think of the way they look. Just my .02 p.s: my analysis is not a negative critique of your copy but just a suggestion to focus more on your market I commend your hard work, focus and courage to open yourself to the public. |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Hi Anya,
I applaud you for creating this ebook, and I hesitate to answer your request because I don't want to discourage you. But what can be more discouraging than no sales and not a clue why? I don't think the problem is in the product. I believe this is probably an excellent product and value, and there is obviously a clear need, even desire, for it. Although I am not a teenage girl and I don't have a teenage daughter (she's 6), I do have nieces and young friends who could surely benefit from your book. But you're offer simply wasn't compelling enough for me to purchase it as a gift. I happen to be reading Doug Hall's "Jump Start Your Business Brain" right now, and I think I'll put my answer in his terms since they are fresh in my mind. He says you must have three things to introduce a new product to market: 1. Overt Benefit: What's in it for the customer. In this case, you leave the overt benefit for the target to figure out. And, by the way, the real benefit is not looking like a million bucks, it is being loved. Or, put another way, "Buy This Book and You Get the Guy - Any Guy You Want!" Yea, I know. When I put it like that it sounds over the top, doesn't it? Well, it's reality. Of course, you don't want to be so blunt and put it in those exact words, but you better be able to make that connection between your product and her real goal somehow. You want to subtly paint a picture or story that gently but powerfully lets her make the emotional connection. 2. Real Reason to Believe: There is some credibility that you can deliver what you promise, but you need to beef it up. Even teens know that regular teens and models do not utilize makeup the same way. How does your target know you know anything about her needs in the real world? Perhaps you could make that connection better. 3. Dramatic Difference: Here's a real problem. There are scores of books, booklets, pamphlets, videos, etc. on using makeup. Every makeup company offers something. The bookstores are full of them. The big question is, why is your book different and better? Ever one of those other books was written by someone who claimed to know what they were talking about, and they all claim to do the same thing yours does. So why should she buy your book instead of (or in addition to) the others? Is it because they can get what they want less expensively? How much less expensively? Exactly how much. Can they save $21 an ounce on one must have product alone? Will they save $647 this year alone? Do your methods work better? How much better? Do you have any stories of how one of your clients got a date, role, job, etc., after receiving your help or advice? In addition: Tell a little more about what's in the book. I hope there are a lot of pictures, because teens aren't too good at reading and interpreting text. And if there are pictures and illustrations, for goodness sakes, tell them about it. How it will be soooo easy for them to follow your advice (while saving soooo much money and getting soooo many dates). You mentioned in the subhead that a teen's budget was being taken into account, but it's left hanging. The bullets don't support it. Throw out a teaser or two like, "The item you throw away every day that will turn your eyes into love magnets if used correctly." OK, maybe a little over the top, but you get the idea I'm sure. Another approach entirely would be to market to grandparents. The boomers have gobs of money and love to spend on their grandkids, especially if they can help that special child who isn't popular get some new friends or dates. I know this has not been structured as well as I would like, and I've left a lot out. I also hope I don't come across as being too negative. If so, please forgive me. It's late and I'm tired. James |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Hi Anya,
I am responsible for making a couple of hits in your website. I have been lead to your site by the link at the bottom of one of your posts. I was just curious what the 10 days projects really are but the project itself was scracely related to me - have no teen girl and I am a male. I visited your site when I saw an image of your product which is an improvement. It is a great improvement from the first one and I like it. I have visited your seatosky webpage. I have been charmed by the graphics and the BC. I suspect I have made additional hits as I was browsing your site. Sorry Anya for not voting by my wallet. Other members have already given you advices which I support although my profession is not business at the moment. I remember Gordon or Bill Myers saying to the effect that find your market first and make product to suit it. In this case, you have made product firtst. However, following advices by other members, I am sure you will find the decent market and buyers. Jeagan Lee |
Another example of "Bass-Ackwardness"
It never ceases to amaze me that participants on "Marketing" forums miss the FIRST RULE of Marketing (which should be printed in BOLD PRINT at the header of each and every Marketing Forum)
.... the FIRST RULE of Marketing is; FIND A TARGET MARKET! THEN... CREATE A PRODUCT FOR THAT MARKET! Instead...people are continuously creating products....THEN....trying to find a market to sell them to! On this board as an example....I will bet there are maybe NO TEENS lurking! So how could someone possibly consider selling a report on "Teenage Makeup"? I'll never forget a prime example when I was in college at Northwestern Univ in Evanston, Illinois. NU is on the lakefront with nice beaches full of co-eds that draw boys like flies. As we were sitting there one year, watching the girlies go by....one of the guys said; "Man O Man...if someone set up a hot dog stand here...they'd make a fortune!" Well...one of the guys in the group that day logged that thought in and within 2 years HE set up a "Chicago Franks" stand and went on to make a large fortune in the restaurant biz...from ONE hot dog stand where people were HUNGRY FOR HOTDOGS! So...go find out WHERE the Teens are hanging out and place your banner ads there. My thought is, since I hear teens talking about GAMES so much, is to find some GAME SITES. Also check out "Dating" sites. There's possibly some TEEN CHAT Rooms which have banner ads. Ya gots ta go where the teens are. NOW...you can do the research for your market....and with some luck and perseverence you could hit the right spot. Best of luck to you. Don ALm > My "coach", Gordon Alexander, > whose 10-day program got me this far with my > ebook, has suggested I ask this question to > all who have visited my site (URL below) and > looked at the sales pitch for my book. > A little background: According to my site > counter, I've received over 100 hits at Make > Up Tips for Teens > (http://www.seatoskyzine.com/makeup)in the > past 5 days, and many have come from you > dear people at sowpub. Yet, with all these > hits I've had no sales of my ebook. As > Gordon puts it, "people have not voted > with their wallets". As part of my > learning process, he wants me to ask you, > dear friends, why not? > Be honest. Why didn't you buy the book? Why > didn't you vote "yes" with your > wallets? > I'm learning how to create a product and > market it successfuly. You can help me, and > possibly others who want to do the same > thing, figure out what makes something sell > or not. > I need to know why I didn't succeed in > selling my product to any of you. Was it the > site? Was it the "sales pitch"? > Was it the price of the ebook? Was it the > cover? > And no, I'm not trying to guilt anybody into > buying it! I just want to learn, so I need > your feedback. Help me complete this part of > my "homework", by giving me an > honest evaluation. > You have my gratitude! > Thanks, > Anya. Some of my UNIQUE home-based businesses |
Here's an idea...
Offer your report as a FREEBIE to collect NAMES of INTERESTED PEOPLE!
This is called an "Opt-In" list and you can use this list of YOUR prospects to offer stuff to them ad-infinitum....BUT....you FIRST need their names and email addys. Use the report as a "Sales Letter" for something else...a product...a "Personal Beauty Consultation" by a renowned Teen Beauty Expert...whatever. The report is the REASON for prospects to give you their Names & Addys then you can bombard the heck out of them until they either cry "REMOVE!" or BUY! DOn Alm > It never ceases to amaze me that > participants on "Marketing" forums > miss the FIRST RULE of Marketing (which > should be printed in BOLD PRINT at the > header of each and every Marketing Forum) > .... > the FIRST RULE of Marketing is; > FIND A TARGET MARKET! > THEN... > CREATE A PRODUCT FOR THAT MARKET! > Instead...people are continuously creating > products....THEN....trying to find a market > to sell them to! > On this board as an example....I will bet > there are maybe NO TEENS lurking! So how > could someone possibly consider selling a > report on "Teenage Makeup"? > I'll never forget a prime example when I was > in college at Northwestern Univ in Evanston, > Illinois. NU is on the lakefront with nice > beaches full of co-eds that draw boys like > flies. > As we were sitting there one year, watching > the girlies go by....one of the guys said; > "Man O Man...if someone set up a hot > dog stand here...they'd make a > fortune!" > Well...one of the guys in the group that day > logged that thought in and within 2 years HE > set up a "Chicago Franks" stand > and went on to make a large fortune in the > restaurant biz...from ONE hot dog stand > where people were HUNGRY FOR HOTDOGS! > So...go find out WHERE the Teens are hanging > out and place your banner ads there. My > thought is, since I hear teens talking about > GAMES so much, is to find some GAME SITES. > Also check out "Dating" sites. > There's possibly some TEEN CHAT Rooms which > have banner ads. > Ya gots ta go where the teens are. > NOW...you can do the research for your > market....and with some luck and > perseverence you could hit the right spot. > Best of luck to you. > Don ALm FAX BUX |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
> Hi Anya,
> Like Dien, I was one of those who visited > your site. I have a son who is 19 and a > daughter who is 5. As Dien pointed out, this > isn't where you will find your target > market... not really. Yes, that's very true! > 100 hits? > There are 7 images and one web page on your > homepage. Each of these produces a call on > the server and counts for a hit. So 100 hits > means about 12 visitors, providing they only > looked at the home page. Actually Steve, it's a "visit" counter, not a "hit" counter. I should have specified that in my post. The stats show that every single hit has a different IP address and host name. So they are all unique visitors. > Let's not stop there though. If you can make > two sales off-line, to every one online, > have you considered putting something > together that you can sell off-line as well? Well, I haven't gotten that far yet, but it's certainly something I should think about. Thanks so much for all your helpful input! Anya. |
Re: Here's my 2 cents....
> Hi Anya,
> I think the most likely reason is because > probably "Sowpub" types may not be > the best fit for the kind of market you > seek, since most of us here are interested > in business, writing, investing, and all > that stuff.... :) Yes, you're absolutely right! :) > What I would suggest is try to promote it in > some places where people who are looking for > this product would buy it.... For example, > maybe places where parents might talk about > problems of having teenage daughters. (This > is just a guess, you probably have a better > idea than I do where the target market you > seek might hang out....) I don't know > precisely where, but I'm sure there must be > forums like that somewhere.... You could > participate in any makeup related > discussions (which would establish your > credibility), and always leave a link to > your site at the end of your posts after > your name.... Thank you for that, it is a challenge, I've discovered, to find such forums that will let you provide a link with your signature. I've gotten in trouble in the past for doing that at ivillage.com, which is where all the ladies hang out. Darn! > That's my 2 cents. :) And it's worth a thousand times that. Thank you! Anya |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
> Great website/like the colors, graphics
> etc... Thanks :) > Now what confuses me: are you selling an > ebook "directly to teens" or > "to their > parents?". It's been my experience > teens generally > don't do what their parents want them to do > when it comes to personal grooming(there are > exceptions to every rule) > As teens are sensitive to the > criticism > of others I don't think I would mention the > frustration their parents have with their > makeup UNLESS you are going to aim your > ebook > to the adult population(parents of teens) > But > that poses a problem because most teens and > pre- > teens seek advice from magazines and their > peers. Yes, that's an interesting and very valid point. I have to drag Gordon into this issue, and I hope he doesn't mind..... you need to know that I wrote the copy for the first page on the website, while Gordon wrote the copy for the 2nd and 3rd pages. When I wrote the ebook, I wrote it to and for teens. The only mention of parents in the book is a gentle nudge to not go against their better judgement. It was Gordon, however, that wrote the articles (2nd & 3rd pages on the site) from a parents perspective, and I think (I may be wrong) that he feels that the book will be marketed to parents rather than teens. I'm not sure about this, as we haven't actually started the marketing part of the program yet, and we have to bounce this idea back and forth. But I believe that's where this confusion lies - of who we are marketing to - teens or their parents. > I think you should hang out in the area of > the > internet where teens communicate with one > another and find out if you have the tips > they want and if they buy online and market > your tips to them...but change the title > and the orientation of your copy on both > pages > and aim it at teens directly instead of any > reference to their parents or what their > parents think of the way they look. Yes again, that will have to be looked into. Thanks so much for pointing that out! > Just my .02 It was worth more! > p.s: my analysis is not a negative critique > of your copy but just a suggestion to focus > more on your market > I commend your hard work, focus and courage > to open yourself to the public. Thanks :) Anya. |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
James,
Don't ever apologize for giving "negative" advice - I asked for advice, and you've given me a wealth of wonderful wisdom in one post. Thank you - I am printing out your post so I can go through it with a fine-tooth comb and really think about how to implement the ideas you presented. Thanks so much for taking the time to write all that. It's appreciated more than you know! Anya. > Hi Anya, > I applaud you for creating this ebook, and I > hesitate to answer your request because I > don't want to discourage you. But what can > be more discouraging than no sales and not a > clue why? I don't think the problem is in > the product. I believe this is probably an > excellent product and value, and there is > obviously a clear need, even desire, for it. > Although I am not a teenage girl and I don't > have a teenage daughter (she's 6), I do have > nieces and young friends who could surely > benefit from your book. But you're offer > simply wasn't compelling enough for me to > purchase it as a gift. > I happen to be reading Doug Hall's > "Jump Start Your Business Brain" > right now, and I think I'll put my answer in > his terms since they are fresh in my mind. > He says you must have three things to > introduce a new product to market: > 1. Overt Benefit: What's in it for the > customer. In this case, you leave the overt > benefit for the target to figure out. And, > by the way, the real benefit is not looking > like a million bucks, it is being loved. Or, > put another way, "Buy This Book and You > Get the Guy - Any Guy You Want!" Yea, I > know. When I put it like that it sounds over > the top, doesn't it? Well, it's reality. Of > course, you don't want to be so blunt and > put it in those exact words, but you better > be able to make that connection between your > product and her real goal somehow. You want > to subtly paint a picture or story that > gently but powerfully lets her make the > emotional connection. > 2. Real Reason to Believe: There is some > credibility that you can deliver what you > promise, but you need to beef it up. Even > teens know that regular teens and models do > not utilize makeup the same way. How does > your target know you know anything about her > needs in the real world? Perhaps you could > make that connection better. > 3. Dramatic Difference: Here's a real > problem. There are scores of books, > booklets, pamphlets, videos, etc. on using > makeup. Every makeup company offers > something. The bookstores are full of them. > The big question is, why is your book > different and better? Ever one of those > other books was written by someone who > claimed to know what they were talking > about, and they all claim to do the same > thing yours does. So why should she buy your > book instead of (or in addition to) the > others? Is it because they can get what they > want less expensively? How much less > expensively? Exactly how much. Can they save > $21 an ounce on one must have product alone? > Will they save $647 this year alone? Do your > methods work better? How much better? Do you > have any stories of how one of your clients > got a date, role, job, etc., after receiving > your help or advice? > In addition: > Tell a little more about what's in the book. > I hope there are a lot of pictures, because > teens aren't too good at reading and > interpreting text. And if there are pictures > and illustrations, for goodness sakes, tell > them about it. How it will be soooo easy for > them to follow your advice (while saving > soooo much money and getting soooo many > dates). > You mentioned in the subhead that a teen's > budget was being taken into account, but > it's left hanging. The bullets don't support > it. Throw out a teaser or two like, > "The item you throw away every day that > will turn your eyes into love magnets if > used correctly." OK, maybe a little > over the top, but you get the idea I'm sure. > Another approach entirely would be to market > to grandparents. The boomers have gobs of > money and love to spend on their grandkids, > especially if they can help that special > child who isn't popular get some new friends > or dates. > I know this has not been structured as well > as I would like, and I've left a lot out. I > also hope I don't come across as being too > negative. If so, please forgive me. It's > late and I'm tired. > James |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Thank you Jeagan,
No need to apologize for not "voting with your wallet" - I certainly don't consider you to be part of my "target" audience! LOL! :) Yes, I guess it's a bit backwards to make a product and then try to find a market for it. Well, this was the nature of the program, but I'm not letting myself get too crazy if I dont make any sales - the point is, I LEARNED SOMETHING through Gordon's program, and I'm still learning. This is wonderful! I'm learning to walk, and soon I'll learn to run. Next time around, I'll be thinking more about my "niche" first before I dream up a product. And next time around, I'll be smarter. As long as I keep learning, I'll feel that the experience was valuable. Thanks for responding, Anya > I am responsible for making a couple of hits > in your website. I have been lead to your > site by the link at the bottom of one of > your posts. I was just curious what the 10 > days projects really are but the project > itself was scracely related to me - have no > teen girl and I am a male. > I visited your site when I saw an image of > your product which is an improvement. It is > a great improvement from the first one and I > like it. I have visited your seatosky > webpage. I have been charmed by the graphics > and the BC. I suspect I have made additional > hits as I was browsing your site. > Sorry Anya for not voting by my wallet. > Other members have already given you advices > which I support although my profession is > not business at the moment. > I remember Gordon or Bill Myers saying to > the effect that find your market first and > make product to suit it. In this case, you > have made product firtst. However, following > advices by other members, I am sure you will > find the decent market and buyers. > Jeagan Lee |
Re: Here's an idea...
Actually,
Someone did suggest a variation of this, that I offer a free "sneak preview" of the ebook, in the same manner. Either way could work. As for your earlier post, maybe you didn't know that my ebook is part of Gordon's "10 Day Mind To Market" trial, and there's a handful of us that got to participate. The idea was to brainstorm a product that we could write about and sell. Perhaps it was done a bit backwards, I don't know. (Hey, I'm learning as I go). But we were supposed to think of a niche where we would market our books. I agree, this forum isn't the place! However, as part of my "homework", I was encouraged to pose the question as to "why you weren't compelled to buy my wonderful product" as a course of learning what works and what doesn't. And so I thank you for your comments, as I am always grateful for the opportunity to learn, and I am so grateful for the patience of veterans such as yourself to help newbies like me along the way. Anya. > Offer your report as a FREEBIE to collect > NAMES of INTERESTED PEOPLE! > This is called an "Opt-In" list > and you can use this list of YOUR prospects > to offer stuff to them > ad-infinitum....BUT....you FIRST need their > names and email addys. > Use the report as a "Sales Letter" > for something else...a product...a > "Personal Beauty Consultation" by > a renowned Teen Beauty Expert...whatever. > The report is the REASON for prospects to > give you their Names & Addys then you > can bombard the heck out of them until they > either cry "REMOVE!" or BUY! > DOn Alm |
Anya its your lucky day!
I have only just read this thread
My daughter Olivia who is 14, is founder of 5 high traffic, world wide boy band fan clubs. Bands such as NSynch, Blue, A1 etc How is that for a target market? Now SHE instantly WANTED your book! So I will do a deal of this millenium You give her a copy of your book and she will put a prominent link on all five sites All you will have to do is watch your stats roll:-) I expect you will be in touch Regards Andy |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Anya -
To piggyback on Don Alm and Andy Frain's posts - my friends' teenagers are also always on ".wav " sites downloading sound clips from movies, tv, ads, and others for use in their instant messages, cell phones, etc. Might be another source of targeting teens. While not in your target market (no teen girls around) I applaud your initial effort, and even more your followup efforts in asking for feedback. Keep it up and you'll definitely hit the "right" market. Bob |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
> My "coach", Gordon Alexander,
> whose 10-day program got me this far with my > ebook, has suggested I ask this question to > all who have visited my site (URL below) and > looked at the sales pitch for my book. > A little background: According to my site > counter, I've received over 100 hits at Make > Up Tips for Teens > (http://www.seatoskyzine.com/makeup)in the > past 5 days, and many have come from you > dear people at sowpub. Yet, with all these > hits I've had no sales of my ebook. As > Gordon puts it, "people have not voted > with their wallets". As part of my > learning process, he wants me to ask you, > dear friends, why not? > Be honest. Why didn't you buy the book? Why > didn't you vote "yes" with your > wallets? > I'm learning how to create a product and > market it successfuly. You can help me, and > possibly others who want to do the same > thing, figure out what makes something sell > or not. > I need to know why I didn't succeed in > selling my product to any of you. Was it the > site? Was it the "sales pitch"? > Was it the price of the ebook? Was it the > cover? > And no, I'm not trying to guilt anybody into > buying it! I just want to learn, so I need > your feedback. Help me complete this part of > my "homework", by giving me an > honest evaluation. > You have my gratitude! > Thanks, > Anya. Hi Anya I`ve just had a look at your site and I am sure I have seen the reason for you not having any sales. Move the bulleted list on your order page to your main page,hit your customers with these benefits why they should buy your book straight away. Good Luck Roger |
Re: Anya its your lucky day!
Hello Andy,
Thank you so much for your incredibly generous offer. I have emailed you, so please watch for it! Thanks again, Anya. > I have only just read this thread > My daughter Olivia who is 14, is founder of > 5 high traffic, world wide boy band fan > clubs. Bands such as NSynch, Blue, A1 etc > How is that for a target market? > Now SHE instantly WANTED your book! > So I will do a deal of this millenium > You give her a copy of your book and she > will put a prominent link on all five sites > All you will have to do is watch your stats > roll:-) > I expect you will be in touch Regards > Andy |
Bob, thank you....
I will check those out.
You know, it was a real risk to my self-respect to come back and ask why nobody bought the product. Even though I took great pains to explain that I wasn't looking for sales by asking the question - just advice, at least one person over at FIB took me the wrong way and chewed me out a little bit. Made me feel really tacky for asking the question. So I am so grateful that you understand this is all about market research, not about trying to "guilt" anyone into buying my product. So many people here have offered such great words of wisdom, and I am literally soaking it all up like a thirsty sponge. Thank you so much! > Anya - > To piggyback on Don Alm and Andy Frain's > posts - my friends' teenagers are also > always on ".wav " sites > downloading sound clips from movies, tv, > ads, and others for use in their instant > messages, cell phones, etc. Might be another > source of targeting teens. > While not in your target market (no teen > girls around) I applaud your initial effort, > and even more your followup efforts in > asking for feedback. Keep it up and you'll > definitely hit the "right" market. > Bob |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Thanks Roger,
I'll find a way to incorporate those bullets onto the main page. I still want it to somehow retain what it already has, not just look like a sales letter. If I can find a way to mesh the two together, I think that would be good. Thanks again, Anya. > Hi Anya > I`ve just had a look at your site and I am > sure I have seen the reason for you not > having any sales. > Move the bulleted list on your order page to > your main page,hit your customers with these > benefits why they should buy your book > straight away. > Good Luck > Roger |
Besides trying to sell, you can use the web for a little competitive intelligence
Hi Anya,
Besides just trying to sell, you can use the web to do Competitive Intelligence research and find out what, how and where your competitors are selling. I was asked last year to write an article about "Competitive Intelligence Resources" so if no one minds, I will just copy and paste it here. Perhaps this will give you an insight into some other ideas to improve your marketing. Here is the article: Competitive Intelligence Resources There are all kinds of tools to assist you to keep updated with your competitive intelligence status. I say status, because as far as I see this is a never ending process. Not only will you have to look for new competitors, you need to stay updated on what new things your old competitors are implementing. One tool you might want to have a look at is called Website Watcher. It checks an unlimited number of web-sites for updates and changes with a minimum of time and online-costs. When changes in a website are detected, WebSite-Watcher saves last two versions to your hard disk and highlights all changes in text. This program offers a 40 day free trial but must be registered for $20. http://www.webspector.com/downloads.htm#webspectorWebspector is a similar program you can look like. They offer a free download too. I didn't download this one to look at so I don't know if free download is really just a time limited demo or not. I couldn't find this information on their site. There are some free services and programs that can help on a limited basis. Informant is a web based service that searches web for you based on search algorithms from Alta Vista, Excite and Infoseek. Copernic is a free software program that can be useful. There are more powerful features available to paid users, but the free version can serve up some useful information as well. You might also be interested in having a look at Easy Seeker. You can use it to search over 100+ search engines and filter out duplicates. This software, although free is ad supported. Further research on the net shows there is a lot of places to learn more about competitive Intelligence: ADLAW Source for information on legal developments in advertising, marketing and media, including newsletters, cases, a guide to legal issues in advertising, and cyber law information. Ad Facts Provides customized competitive advertising and publicity tracking in print media (trade and consumer publications) and on the Internet. Offers reports on ad spending, publicity coverage, media placement, and analysis of the competitors' advertising strategies over time. Advertising Age Advertising Age, known for its top rated coverage of the advertising industry, offers this site with daily news, archives, plus listings such as top advertisers in various categories and a variety of lists such as 50 best commercials. Advertising Media Internet Center AMIC sponsors a vast collection of advertising-related websites, including links to companies, organizations, conferences, research institutes, media and the law. Advertising World University of Texas offers this abundant, collection of advertising and related links to companies, organizations, conferences and sports an excellent advertising-specific directory of topics. Advertising Worldwide Information AWI - an international database of useful information including: advertising agencies, market research companies, conventions, professional associations, audiovisual producers media resources and rates, legal issues, research and universities. Advertising and Marketing Publications Links to Advertising and Marketing publications. Adweek Online Subscription-based current, weekly and archived advertising-related articles and industry updates. Also includes classifieds. American Association of Advertising Agencies Newsletter, events, membership roster, abstracts of publications; some available free of cost, others for purchase. FindexOnline The worldwide directory of market research reports, studies and surveys; search and purchase full-text market research reports. Internet Advertising Bureau IAB events, news, membership information and research about the use and effectiveness of advertising on the Internet. Marketing Lists HTMARCOM Marketing lists on the internet. Media Central Daily and weekly advertising and promotion, marketing, television and cable, newspaper and radio news. MouseTracks: The List of Marketing Lists An extensive list of marketing related e-mail discussion groups. The Advertising Research Foundation A corporate membership association performing research in advertising, marketing and media. Their website offers information about the organization, ARF-sponsored events and links to recent issues of The Journal of Advertising Research. Web Digest for Marketers A free current issue of links to marketing-related sites and also a searchable, fee-based archive of links. Yahoo!'s Advertising News Advertising-specific news from Reuters, Business Wire, and PR Newswire. Yahoo!'s Advertising Sites A useful collection of advertising-specific organizations. One of the greatest tools for Competitive Intelligence is your ability to look ahead and see where a competitor may be going. To do this you would want to look at such things as: Academic publications Help-wanted ads Access to Information Act Industry regulators Annual reports to stockholders Industry research reports Business school cases Media quotes Company home pages Patent filings databases Court cases Press announcements Directories Securities and Exchange Commission Environmental Protection Agency Financial analyst reports Government filings (10Ks, 8Ks) State Uniform Commercial Code Trade Press Trade associations You would also want to keep abreast of the news. By keeping abreast of your competitors involvement in things like: Community meetings Professional meetings Financial analysts meetings Trade shows and exhibits Government hearings Professional meetings This information you can use to your benefit and by employing strategies to study and learn more about your competitors, you can be far ahead of the competition. One government site claimed that: Canada and the United States have very different CI systems from these countries. In Canada, no university offers a degree in CI; existing legislation prevents the sharing of strategic information; and our culture focuses on information as power with the hoarding of it seen as a way of differentiating the individual -- we do not share. Canada's intelligence service (CSIS) is not mandated to collect commercial intelligence, in fact, the service's mandate prevents it from doing so. CSIS is not allowed to share findings with Canadian companies should commercial intelligence be uncovered. At the executive level, few see the value of an integrated competitive intelligence system and North Americans certainly do not devour information in the same way that others do. As for the United States, despite a growing number of university and executive programs in CI, the country is still far behind the rest of the world in CI. A study by the New-York-based Conference Board reveals that fewer than 5% of US corporations had full-fledged intelligence systems in place, only a marginal improvement of the 1988 findings of 3% I guess we are a little too relaxed in North America. This attitude is NOT reflected across the entire globe. For example, Sweden is among the world leaders in CI. Collaboration among banks, academe, associations, government, and industry has helped create an impressive CI infrastructure with a large percentage of Sweden's top 500 firms having world-class CI departments. At the educational level, universities offer courses and degrees in CI, and there is even a high-school CI course that has been given to students throughout Europe. Within the Swedish business environment, there is much information sharing, and Sweden has relied on cartels, mergers, personal relationships, and so forth to maintain this system. Intelligence is gathered through tightly linked government, banking, business, and association networks around the world. If you need some studying material off-line to pursue this topic a little further you can find all kinds of books on data mining at Amazon.com. There is another free web based service offered by Excite that you can use to sort and filter through more than 300 online newspapers for late-breaking articles. Among these 300 or so, includes searches through Asia Week, Economist, London Evening Standard, Los Angeles Times, Forbes Digital, Advertising Age, and Russia Today. I'd like to point out before this article goes to much further that although a lot of information and software ideas are being presented to you here, that you REALLY have to be prepared to do your homework. You will need to set up a system on your computer and really study this information and plan your intelligence process. You are not going to be able to rely solely on software or web based services... Cambridge, Mass.-based constancy Fuld & Co. published a study, titled "Intelligence Software Report 2000." Fuld reviewed more than 170 software packages for the competitive intelligence market. Of the 170 products reviewed, only a dozen were found to offer enough functionality to warrant immediate consideration -- and none of those provided complete support for a company's competitive intelligence program, according to Fuld. And part of the problem that lies with the small entrepreneur is that a lot of these software packages are designed to pull information from major databases on the web about companies that sell stocks and are traded publicly. Interesting to note though, that once you have a strategic plan, much of what you may wish to discover can be done on your own. William E. Rothschild said, "Most major companies have developed World Wide Web sites to communicate directly, inexpensively,and efficiently with their customers, investors, suppliers and the public. In doing so, they inadvertently provide strategic and operational intelligence to Net-surfing competitors." In an article he wrote you can read how one of his clients, was able to use the Web listings of a key competitor... When and if you do try to compile data yourself, information on other environmental trends such as industry trends, legal and regulatory trends, international trends, technology developments, political developments and economic conditions are important considerations. The relative strength of the competitor can be judged accurately only by assessing it with respect to the factors listed above. It's no secret that all the dot.com lay-offs, and the increasing knowledge of "proven to fail" business models is going to increase the interest in gaining accurate and reliable information about those competitors who have established their successes. One of the best places to start your research is at Siteowner's. Use Siteowner's free services to find out how popular your competitor's sites are and how the search engines rank them. If you feel your searching skills need to be updated you can take a tutorial that will show you how to research companies online. There is also a CI Resource Index where you can read lots of articles about Competitive Intelligence. While looking for more software that might be able to offer some assistance I ran across a demo product from Answer Chase. The software demo is only enabled for 60 days, but that should be long enough to learn how to use it to your benefit. For pricing it appears that the price is about $30 per month or $1 per day to keep using it. I would have liked to download it and try it before I reported on it, but I am limited to the amount of time I can afford to spend. Time is a precious commodity. This product promises to free some of YOUR time. One handy little tool I found that doesn't help a whole lot with compiling any type of intelligence reports but it does allow you to monitor competitors websites for changes in URL's at URL's you specify is called C4U. Here are some of the things it can do: Example 1 ? Let?s say you?re a Cardiologist, a Doctor of the Heart, and you wish to keep updated with the recent developments in the new research after the causes of Heart Attacks orchestra ted by Dr. John Smith in Washington DC. All you have to do in this scenario, is add the main page of http://www.medicalmag.com/ to your C4U Page List, and type in the keywords ?Heart AND Research OR Dr. Smith AND Washington? . The next time an article with these words will appear, C4U will let you know of it, and present it to you in an accessible convenient way. Example 2 ? You?re looking for a date on the Internet, and you?re checking out a dating service site. The problem is that you?re very selective, and you want a person who?s at least 5?11 or has green eyes, however, you?ve yet to find the right person in the current lists, and you?re waiting for new entries to show up In this case all you have to do is add the Web Page where the list appears, and if necessary, add a password and a username, and set C4U to detect new text and links in this page. The next time a new person comes along, you will be the first to know before he or she is already taken.As C4U will alert and keep an eye open for more people with added to that list. Example 3: Using Internet Search Engines ?You?re a great fan of Elvis, The King, and you wish to keep track of fan sites added to Yahoo!. All you have to do is look for ?Elvis? in Yahoo! and add the ?Results? to your C4U Page List. When you do,make sure you check the options to notify you when a link is added or text is added, and that way, the next time Yahoo?s collection of Elvis Fan sites is expanded, you will surely be the first to know. Example 4 ? Interested in the latest news for PCs and World Computing? Add www.pcmag.com to your C4U Page List and ask C4U to let you know if Text or Graphics have been added to the main page. If you?re anticipating a review of recent software of hardware, simply type it in as a keyword, and C4U will let you know when the PC Magazine personnel will review it. You can download this freeware tool from C4U A similar and free web based service can be found from NetMind. A free service I use and recommend is available from Tracer Lock. It monitors the Web for sites matching your interests, and sends you email when it finds a new match. A recent upgrade in this service made some improvements to the format of the TracerLock notification emails. Now, when TracerLock emails you a list of URL's that match your search query, it also looks at the contents of each URL and includes the portion of the Web page text that matches your query. This makes it easier to tell whether a given match is actually relevant, without having to view each Web page and look for your search term. Best Regards, Steve MacLellan PS: Keep in mind I wrote this article over a year ago, so some of the links may not work. Risk Free Web Development |
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Steve,
You've shared a lot of valuable information here. I know I'm not the only one that will find this useful. Thanks so much for sharing this. Anya. > Hi Anya, > Besides just trying to sell, you can use the > web to do Competitive Intelligence research > and find out what, how and where your > competitors are selling. I was asked last > year to write an article about > "Competitive Intelligence > Resources" so if no one minds, I will > just copy and paste it here. Perhaps this > will give you an insight into some other > ideas to improve your marketing. Here is the > article: > Competitive Intelligence Resources > There are all kinds of tools to assist you > to keep updated with your competitive > intelligence status. I say status, because > as far as I see this is a never ending > process. Not only will you have to look for > new competitors, you need to stay updated on > what new things your old competitors are > implementing. > One tool you might want to have a look at > is called Website Watcher . It checks an > unlimited number of web-sites for updates > and changes with a minimum of time and > online-costs. When changes in a website are > detected, WebSite-Watcher saves last two > versions to your hard disk and highlights > all changes in text. This program offers a > 40 day free trial but must be registered for > $20. > > http://www.webspector.com/downloads.htm#webspector > Webspector is a similar program you can > look like. They offer a free download too. I > didn't download this one to look at so I > don't know if free download is really just a > time limited demo or not. I couldn't find > this information on their site. > There are some free services and programs > that can help on a limited basis. Informant > is a web based service that searches web > for you based on search algorithms from Alta > Vista, Excite and Infoseek. Copernic is a > free software program that can be useful. > There are more powerful features available > to paid users, but the free version can > serve up some useful information as well. > You might also be interested in having a > look at Easy Seeker . You can use it to > search over 100+ search engines and filter > out duplicates. This software, although free > is ad supported. > Further research on the net shows there is > a lot of places to learn more about > competitive Intelligence: > ADLAW Source for information on legal > developments in advertising, marketing and > media, including newsletters, cases, a guide > to legal issues in advertising, and cyber > law information. Ad Facts Provides > customized competitive advertising and > publicity tracking in print media (trade and > consumer publications) and on the Internet. > Offers reports on ad spending, publicity > coverage, media placement, and analysis of > the competitors' advertising strategies over > time. Advertising Age Advertising Age, > known for its top rated coverage of the > advertising industry, offers this site with > daily news, archives, plus listings such as > top advertisers in various categories and a > variety of lists such as 50 best > commercials. Advertising Media Internet > Center AMIC sponsors a vast collection of > advertising-related websites, including > links to companies, organizations, > conferences, research institutes, media and > the law. Advertising World University of > Texas offers this abundant, collection of > advertising and related links to companies, > organizations, conferences and sports an > excellent advertising-specific directory of > topics. Advertising Worldwide Information > AWI - an international database of useful > information including: advertising agencies, > market research companies, conventions, > professional associations, audiovisual > producers media resources and rates, legal > issues, research and universities. > Advertising and Marketing Publications > Links to Advertising and Marketing > publications. Adweek Online > Subscription-based current, weekly and > archived advertising-related articles and > industry updates. Also includes classifieds. > American Association of Advertising > Agencies Newsletter, events, membership > roster, abstracts of publications; some > available free of cost, others for purchase. > FindexOnline The worldwide directory of > market research reports, studies and > surveys; search and purchase full-text > market research reports. Internet > Advertising Bureau IAB events, news, > membership information and research about > the use and effectiveness of advertising on > the Internet. Marketing Lists HTMARCOM > Marketing lists on the internet. Media > Central Daily and weekly advertising and > promotion, marketing, television and cable, > newspaper and radio news. MouseTracks: The > List of Marketing Lists An extensive list > of marketing related e-mail discussion > groups. The Advertising Research > Foundation A corporate membership > association performing research in > advertising, marketing and media. Their > website offers information about the > organization, ARF-sponsored events and links > to recent issues of The Journal of > Advertising Research. Web Digest for > Marketers A free current issue of links to > marketing-related sites and also a > searchable, fee-based archive of links. > Yahoo!'s Advertising News > Advertising-specific news from Reuters, > Business Wire, and PR Newswire. Yahoo!'s > Advertising Sites A useful collection of > advertising-specific organizations. One > of the greatest tools for Competitive > Intelligence is your ability to look ahead > and see where a competitor may be going. To > do this you would want to look at such > things as: > Academic publications Help-wanted ads > Access to Information Act Industry > regulators Annual reports to > stockholders Industry research reports > Business school cases Media quotes > Company home pages Patent filings > databases Court cases Press > announcements Directories Securities > and Exchange Commission Environmental > Protection Agency Financial analyst > reports Government filings (10Ks, 8Ks) > State Uniform Commercial Code Trade > Press Trade associations You would > also want to keep abreast of the news. By > keeping abreast of your competitors > involvement in things like: > Community meetings Professional > meetings Financial analysts meetings > Trade shows and exhibits Government > hearings Professional meetings This > information you can use to your benefit and > by employing strategies to study and learn > more about your competitors, you can be far > ahead of the competition. One government > site claimed that: > Canada and the United States have very > different CI systems from these countries. > In Canada, no university offers a degree in > CI; existing legislation prevents the > sharing of strategic information; and our > culture focuses on information as power with > the hoarding of it seen as a way of > differentiating the individual -- we do not > share. Canada's intelligence service (CSIS) > is not mandated to collect commercial > intelligence, in fact, the service's mandate > prevents it from doing so. CSIS is not > allowed to share findings with Canadian > companies should commercial intelligence be > uncovered. At the executive level, few see > the value of an integrated competitive > intelligence system and North Americans > certainly do not devour information in the > same way that others do. > As for the United States, despite a growing > number of university and executive programs > in CI, the country is still far behind the > rest of the world in CI. A study by the > New-York-based Conference Board reveals that > fewer than 5% of US corporations had > full-fledged intelligence systems in place, > only a marginal improvement of the 1988 > findings of 3% I guess we are a little > too relaxed in North America. This attitude > is NOT reflected across the entire globe. > For example, Sweden is among the world > leaders in CI. Collaboration among banks, > academe, associations, government, and > industry has helped create an impressive CI > infrastructure with a large percentage of > Sweden's top 500 firms having world-class CI > departments. At the educational level, > universities offer courses and degrees in > CI, and there is even a high-school CI > course that has been given to students > throughout Europe. Within the Swedish > business environment, there is much > information sharing, and Sweden has relied > on cartels, mergers, personal relationships, > and so forth to maintain this system. > Intelligence is gathered through tightly > linked government, banking, business, and > association networks around the world. > If you need some studying material > off-line to pursue this topic a little > further you can find all kinds of books on > data mining at Amazon.com . > There is another free web based service > offered by Excite that you can use to sort > and filter through more than 300 online > newspapers for late-breaking articles. Among > these 300 or so, includes searches through > Asia Week, Economist, London Evening > Standard, Los Angeles Times, Forbes Digital, > Advertising Age, and Russia Today. > I'd like to point out before this article > goes to much further that although a lot of > information and software ideas are being > presented to you here, that you REALLY have > to be prepared to do your homework. You will > need to set up a system on your computer and > really study this information and plan your > intelligence process. You are not going to > be able to rely solely on software or web > based services... > Cambridge, Mass.-based constancy Fuld > & Co. published a study, titled > "Intelligence Software Report > 2000." > Fuld reviewed more than 170 software > packages for the competitive intelligence > market. Of the 170 products reviewed, only a > dozen were found to offer enough > functionality to warrant immediate > consideration -- and none of those provided > complete support for a company's competitive > intelligence program, according to Fuld . > And part of the problem that lies with the > small entrepreneur is that a lot of these > software packages are designed to pull > information from major databases on the web > about companies that sell stocks and are > traded publicly. Interesting to note though, > that once you have a strategic plan, much of > what you may wish to discover can be done on > your own. William E. Rothschild said, > "Most major companies have developed > World Wide Web sites to communicate > directly, inexpensively,and efficiently with > their customers, investors, suppliers and > the public. In doing so, they inadvertently > provide strategic and operational > intelligence to Net-surfing > competitors." In an article he wrote > you can read how one of his clients, was > able to use the Web listings of a key > competitor... > When and if you do try to compile data > yourself, information on other environmental > trends such as industry trends, legal and > regulatory trends, international trends, > technology developments, political > developments and economic conditions are > important considerations. The relative > strength of the competitor can be judged > accurately only by assessing it with respect > to the factors listed above. It's no secret > that all the dot.com lay-offs, and the > increasing knowledge of "proven to > fail" business models is going to > increase the interest in gaining accurate > and reliable information about those > competitors who have established their > successes. > One of the best places to start your > research is at Siteowner's . Use > Siteowner's free services to find out how > popular your competitor's sites are and how > the search engines rank them. If you feel > your searching skills need to be updated you > can take a tutorial that will show you how > to research companies online. There is also > a CI Resource Index where you can read > lots of articles about Competitive > Intelligence. > While looking for more software that might > be able to offer some assistance I ran > across a demo product from Answer Chase . > The software demo is only enabled for 60 > days, but that should be long enough to > learn how to use it to your benefit. For > pricing it appears that the price is about > $30 per month or $1 per day to keep using > it. > I would have liked to download it and try > it before I reported on it, but I am limited > to the amount of time I can afford to spend. > Time is a precious commodity. This product > promises to free some of YOUR time. > One handy little tool I found that doesn't > help a whole lot with compiling any type of > intelligence reports but it does allow you > to monitor competitors websites for changes > in URL's at URL's you specify is called C4U. > Here are some of the things it can do: > Example 1 ? Let?s say you?re a > Cardiologist, a Doctor of the Heart, and you > wish to keep updated with the recent > developments in the new research after the > causes of Heart Attacks orchestra ted by Dr. > John Smith in Washington DC. All you have to > do in this scenario, is add the main page of > http://www.medicalmag.com/ to your C4U > Page List, and type in the keywords ?Heart > AND Research OR Dr. Smith AND Washington? . > The next time an article with these words > will appear, C4U will let you know of it, > and present it to you in an accessible > convenient way. > Example 2 ? You?re looking for a date on > the Internet, and you?re checking out a > dating service site. The problem is that > you?re very selective, and you want a person > who?s at least 5?11 or has green eyes, > however, you?ve yet to find the right person > in the current lists, and you?re waiting for > new entries to show up In this case all you > have to do is add the Web Page where the > list appears, and if necessary, add a > password and a username, and set C4U to > detect new text and links in this page. The > next time a new person comes along, you will > be the first to know before he or she is > already taken.As C4U will alert and keep an > eye open for more people with added to that > list. > Example 3: Using Internet Search Engines > ?You?re a great fan of Elvis, The King, and > you wish to keep track of fan sites added to > Yahoo!. All you have to do is look for > ?Elvis? in Yahoo! and add the ?Results? to > your C4U Page List. When you do,make sure > you check the options to notify you when a > link is added or text is added, and that > way, the next time Yahoo?s collection of > Elvis Fan sites is expanded, you will surely > be the first to know. > Example 4 ? Interested in the latest news > for PCs and World Computing? Add > www.pcmag.com to your C4U Page List and ask > C4U to let you know if Text or Graphics have > been added to the main page. If you?re > anticipating a review of recent software of > hardware, simply type it in as a keyword, > and C4U will let you know when the PC > Magazine personnel will review it. > You can download this freeware tool from > C4U A similar and free web based service > can be found from NetMind . > A free service I use and recommend is > available from Tracer Lock . It monitors > the Web for sites matching your interests, > and sends you email when it finds a new > match. A recent upgrade in this service made > some improvements to the format of the > TracerLock notification emails. Now, when > TracerLock emails you a list of URL's that > match your search query, it also looks at > the contents of each URL and includes the > portion of the Web page text that matches > your query. This makes it easier to tell > whether a given match is actually relevant, > without having to view each Web page and > look for your search term. > Best Regards, > Steve MacLellan PS: > Keep in mind I wrote this article over a > year ago, so some of the links may not work. > |
Re: Can you help me evaluate?
Anya
Have you considered sending out a press release or putting an ad in a teen magazine? Maybe post to some parents forums? Have you sent the ebook to some owners of websites for testimonials? I think the idea for your book is terrific. Although I'm in my 40's... I have saved make up tips from the 1970's. It was by Blooming Colors (a Maybeline product). It showed me so much about makeup, that when I need a refresher course, I take it out and follow the directions. Hey, why don't you send Maybelline a copy of your book! A good question to ask yourself is "Who is your ideal client... and where will you find them? Also, for you, who will pay for the product. Once you decide that, then post ... or advertise in places your ideal client will be found. Just some ideas... from another coach! Best of success, Maria PS. IVilliage is very strict - too strict, which is why I don't post there. Most forums allow you to place - at a minimum your company name, website and slogan. This forum actually let's you place "optional link, title and even your picture here" Business & Life Coach |
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