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bobmcalister October 1, 2007 06:27 PM

anyone want part of this ez moolah ?
 
http://www.the2020challenge.com/

20 k in 20 sdays gur an teed ....for only 247...

thinking i will get me four or five of these and just call it a good year ...partners needed asap !

yeah sure

bob

Pete Egeler October 1, 2007 11:48 PM

Re: anyone want part of this ez moolah ?
 
Bob,

Before you Poo-Poo Michael's program, you need to know that the man can talk the talk & walk the walk.

Sure, $247 is a chunk of change.. a chunk I don't have, and I'm betting you don't either. (Or you'd have bought it already.)

The guy has proven time and time again that the info he puts out does two things: 1) The programs work. 2) They put money in your pocket if you can and DO follow the directions.

I know several folks that have purchased, used, and prospered from the programs that Michael offers.

My 2¢

Pete

bobmcalister October 2, 2007 10:46 AM

Re: anyone want part of this ez moolah ?
 
ok ...good enough ....

was kinda asking for an opinion...but

if YOU had a program that would do what he claims, would YOU sell it ? and if so , why ?

I am really interested in your thoughts..everyone..

thanks
bob

bobmcalister October 2, 2007 03:25 PM

ok PETE...I will split it with you ...
 
we will see , and we can BOTH make some mooolah ...

or anyone else out there ..

bob

ps..I have been blessed with a tidy little bundle that needs to be invested properly ...and still find it difficult to believe a guy would sell that kind of information ....if I were he , I would simply multiply my efforts by hiring others to do it ....but, that is me

let me know, Pete

Pete Egeler October 2, 2007 07:46 PM

Re: anyone want part of this ez moolah ?
 
Sorry Bob..

I'd love to take you up on your offer, but I'm afraid all of my cash (and that I don't have) is about to be sucked up by the "Great American Health System".

My wife's going to have to undergo an MRI, plus a ton of other tests, and as retirees, we must rely on good ole SS, which ain't gonna pay much!

Pete

Phil October 2, 2007 09:37 PM

Re: ok PETE...I will split it with you ...
 
Bob,

As Pete said Michael Green is one of those Proven marketers...
http://www.michaelgreenconsulting.com/

Also owns a very Successful Printing company in the UK...

But just because they sell Quality products and information
does Not mean it's easy or get rich quick... :)

Unfortunately, it takes some Serious work and alot of interest...

If you've been blessed with a tidy little bundle that needs to be invested properly...

There are Lots of Great investment options depending on how you feel and your level of Risk taking... Age seems to have something to do with that... ;)

Phil

jfstraw October 3, 2007 11:13 AM

Re: ok PETE...I will split it with you ...
 
Why do mathematicians write math books? Why do Medical Doctors publish their methods? Why do Plumbers, Electricians, Composer, Architects, and even Hobbyists write handbooks and instruction manuals? -- We write down our methods for the younger generations, so they won't have to learn for themselves how it's done, as we did, by trial and error.

That's why he sells it.

Jim

MMacGillivray October 3, 2007 06:44 PM

OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 17213)
Bob,

As Pete said Michael Green is one of those Proven marketers...
http://www.michaelgreenconsulting.com/

Phil


More about Michael Green - or by his real name, Grant Shapps, MP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Shapps

Margaret

Phil October 3, 2007 09:12 PM

Re: OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
Thanks Margaret,

I was aware he uses a pen name...

But figured my short stories are long enough... :)

And didn't want to confuse the matter...

There's actually another interesting story online...

When someone found out he was using someone's photo from an online resource...

But we'll leave it to a pen name for now... ;)

Michael Green biography
http://www.howtocorp.com/michael-green-biography.html

It's perfectly fine to use a "pen name"...
http://www.howtocorp.com/cgi-bin/web...mes/read/17350

Phil

Emily Rice October 7, 2007 08:02 PM

Re: OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
I just happened across the discussion here because I was looking for more information about the 20/20 challenge as all the information I've been able to find so far is "it's great, buy it...but use my affiliate link" content. So far, I've only be able to find one seemingly honest review of it and have been looking for more. In case others want to read it, it's at http://www.alternativesoho.com/reviews/day-zero.html

If anyone knows of other links, please share them. I really would love some honest feedback about this program because $250 is a lot of money to some people (me!). There's a guarantee, yes, but what if I spend more money working through the program and it doesn't work out? That means I'll still lose money.

On another note, I'm surprised to learn that Michael Green really isn't Michael Green after all. While it might be common practice, it left a bad taste in my mouth as a potential customer. Although he may have built a successful business over time, it made me question his motives and he lost some of my trust before he even had it.

If others have feedback about this program (preferably those who actually own it and aren't trying to push an affiliate sale), please share.

Thank you everyone!

Emily

Pete Egeler October 7, 2007 10:49 PM

Re: anyone want part of this ez moolah ?
 
Emily,

First of all, if the fact that Michael Green is the pen name of a very successful marketer turns you off and causes dis-trust, I hope you don't do too much reading. Pen Names are NOT to be, no should they be associated with wrong doing.

Michael is VERY well known in his homeland, and prefers NOT to use his real name when marketing. Mostly because he's deeply involved in elected office over there.

Secondly, if you're so interested in the 20/20 Challenge, why don't you just go to Michael's forum and ask? You won't be the first, nor will you be the last to ask about it. AND, you'll get a lot more than "sweet nothings".

From your post, my advice to you is stay away from it. It's expensive, it takes a TON of work, and many of the more learned marketers that are a part of it recommend that "newbies" stay away.

Bottom line, if you're NEW to IM, you'll NOT be able to complete the 20/20 Challenge in 20-days. Probably not even in twice that amount of time.

And that's the name of that tune.

Pete

Phil October 8, 2007 12:38 AM

Re: OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
Hi Emily,

As Pete suggested... Unless you're an Expert in the internet marketing field it's Not recommended...

Although, you can always Go ahead and Test Michael Green's... Outcome guaranteed or money back... :)

Remember... Doing & Trying different things is Definitely an Excellent way to Learn all about Life's experiences...

Here's 60 or so Comments to Help you decide on things...
http://www.netprofitstoday.com/blog/the-2020-challenge/
http://www.clicknewz.com/1052/20k-in-20-days/

BUT... Better then that... Here's a Great Gordon Jay Alexander report we should all be Reading... Selling... ;)

And it's FREE!
Click on the link and Go to Before You Buy Anything. New Edition For 2007. FREE!
http://www.flylowcollectdough.com/

Phil

MMacGillivray October 8, 2007 04:00 AM

Re: OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emily Rice (Post 17279)

On another note, I'm surprised to learn that Michael Green really isn't Michael Green after all. While it might be common practice, it left a bad taste in my mouth as a potential customer. Although he may have built a successful business over time, it made me question his motives and he lost some of my trust before he even had it.
Emily


Hi, Emily - I'm sure that, as a Member of the UK Parliament, "Michael Green" can't afford to do anything in his business life which would torpedo his Parliamentary career. He chose to use a pen-name to keep the two sides of his life distinct; the UK Parliamentary rules require him to list his business interests and he's subject to the same scrutiny as any other MP. From that point of view, I'm sure that you need not worry.

As far as the quality of the content of the course - can't comment, as I haven't bought. However, I have seen testimonials that he issues refunds without question.

Hope that helps.

Margaret

Emily Rice October 8, 2007 06:16 PM

Re: OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
Pete, I asked a question and expressed an opinion, next thing I know, it looks as though you're jumping down my throat. The reason I didn't ask in *his* forum is because it's *his* forum. I do appreciate your recommendation that it's not for newbies.

Thank you Phil. Your response was quite helpful and I'm off to read the links you've provided.

Since both you and Pete said it's not good for newbies, I'm going to hold off on it, read some more reviews, and learn the ropes. It was surprising though since the e-mail I received said the course was geared specifically for newbies.

I can appreciate the use of a pen name, especially if you're in an area where using your real name could cause a stir, but something didn't sit right with me about it personally. Not saying the guy's bad or anything, so please don't take it that way. Just expressing my opinion.

Margaret, your explanation was quite helpful as I wasn't familiar with UK rules or how they viewed someone using a pen name. Knowing that using a pen name would still mean he's accountable for his business and actions certainly does settle my "red flag alert".

Thanks for all your input everyone.

Emily

Pete Egeler October 8, 2007 11:45 PM

Re: anyone want part of this ez moolah ?
 
Emily,

I sorry you felt that I was "jumping down your throat".

The facts are, you need NOT be afraid to ask questions about 20/20 or any of Michael's other programs on his forum.

If people don't like it, they'll tell you! Michael doesn't go around "zapping" folks that question this, or any other program.

Here's MY point of view... If you want answers, you go to the source. You don't go to the local Ford Dealer if you've got a question about your Chevy, you go to the Chevrolet dealer. Why not do the same if you've got a question about an IM product?

I think you'll find that 99% of the marketers out there will gladly answer any and all questions you might have about their programs in an honest, straight forward manner. (At least the folks I deal with do.. Michael, Gordon J, Willie Crawford, etc.)

Finally, if you don't feel comfortable asking the owner/originator of the various programs, check out the Warrior forums. They have a special section where you can ask all the questions you want, and get plenty of input on various programs.

Pete

MMacGillivray October 9, 2007 04:24 AM

Re: OT ... will the real Michael Green step forward, please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Emily Rice (Post 17293)
Margaret, your explanation was quite helpful as I wasn't familiar with UK rules or how they viewed someone using a pen name. Knowing that using a pen name would still mean he's accountable for his business and actions certainly does settle my "red flag alert".

Emily


Hi, Emily, glad to help. It seems to me that someone such as Michael Green who obviously does a lot of business online is much more vulnerable to criticisms and complaints which might directly affect his offline public career than the majority of the online marketing fraternity. You can bet that there are loads of journalists just waiting to pounce on him from a great height if he gets it seriously wrong.

Success in your business endeavours!

Margaret


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