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J.F. (Jim) Straw July 16, 2003 03:25 PM

HELP!!
 
Up until about 4 months ago, I only sold MY stuff to my e-Letter subscribers.

I thought, because my readers bought books about Stock Market Investing, Finder's Fees, Mailorder, Exporting & Real Estate Options, they wouldn't buy stuff about Internet Marketing - BUT - they do.

As I had discovered, many, many years ago (but forgot; again) ... an opportunity buyer is an opportunity buyer. -- SO ...

I signed-up as an affiliate for some info-products that I had reviewed and found worthy ... "real" good stuff; not the majority of crap.

Guess what? Now I'm making a few thousand extra dollars each week in affiliate commissions.

Anywho, I am planning to write a report on "how" I succeeded as an affiliate marketer - but - I need to know ...

What do YOU want to know about being an affiliate marketer?

ASK me the questions about affiliate marketing that you want to know, so I can answer them in my report.

Send them to my email address above, or respond here on the board.

Thank You in advance ... I appreciate your assistance.

Jim




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Bill July 16, 2003 11:58 PM

Re: HELP!!
 
Hi Jim,

I think it would be great if you cover how to set up the affiliate process from both angles - what to do if you are the "head honcho" that has the product that affiliates will sell, as well as what to do if you are one of the affiliates.

J.F. (Jim) Straw July 17, 2003 10:38 AM

Thank You, Bill ...
 
That's the kind of questions I need ... so I can make the report responsive to the reader's needs.

Thank You, again.

Jim


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Michael Ross (Aust, Qld) July 17, 2003 06:07 PM

Hello? Is everyone paying attention? Watch the "old" master...
 
> I'm making a few thousand
> extra dollars each week in affiliate
> commissions.

> I am planning to write a report on
> "how" I succeeded as an affiliate
> marketer - but - I need to know ...

> What do YOU want to know about being an
> affiliate marketer?

> ASK me the questions about affiliate
> marketing that you want to know, so I can
> answer them in my report.

Here's ol' Jim. See him make thousands of dollars from affiliate commissions. See how he knows how to do it.

Now watch him.

Before writing about how to do it - and trying to second guess what it actually is people want to know - he is ASKing what we want to know about making money with affiliate sales. He is tailoring the product to fit the market.

This should set Jim's report apart from every other affiliate report out there.

ASK him your questions. The report is sure to be good.

Question: As a new person to affiliate selling - and selling on the internet in general - I have no existing customers I can email an offer to. Can I still make money as an affiliate without an existing list of customers? If so, how? Please show examples.

Question: As a person with a product I would like to have affiliates sell, how do I get affiliates? Is there anything I should do before getting affiliates? If so, what? Please show examples.

Question: How do you find products to offer to your list? Step by step details please.

Question: If the product I find does not already have an affiliate program in place, can I still sell it? If so, how do I go about it. Step by step details please.

Question: I have heard many comments about "the big guys" not wanting to bother with anything that does not offer at least $40 in affiliate commission per sale. At 50% commission, that makes the product around the $80 mark. Do I have to follow that at least $40 per commission sale rule or can I sell lower priced items - $20 for example - and still do okay? What is the reasoning behind your answer. Please show examples.

Question: Every man and his dog is selling reports on "How to make money on the internet." I have even heard that there are more people selling "how to make money online" information than there are people making money online. I see a lot of these affiliate promoted products are to do with making money online. I don't want to be just another person selling a "how to make money online" product. Please show by way opf step by step example, how to become a successful affiliate who sells products not related to making money online.

And finally: Please include a step by step action plan. Something I can follow and tick off each item as done - in the correct order needed. Such as...

Step 1: Got to www.suchandsuch.com and get such and such email software and install it. This will be the software you use to mail to your list.

Step 2: Decide what market you want to sell to.

Step 3: Decide what income goal you want.

Step 4: Go for a walk and then come home and play a marathon game of monopoly with your neighbor. Loser buys the winner a lottery ticket.

And so on. You get the idea. Something a real dummy can follow and still end up with something viable. As if you were exaplaing it to a five year old. Or leaving instructions for a new employee to follow.

Some of the other items I would like to see covered include - autoresponders, getting other people to write your ads (if necesary), webpage creation (hired webdesigner or other method), payment processors for your own affiliate program, the possibility of doing JVs and sourcing products for those JVs.

I'm basically thinking two books in one.

One book - or section of the book - for total newbies. A take by the hand type book. Within nothing left out.

The other book - or section of the book - for the more experienced affiliate marketer or person with a product they wish affiliates to sell.

Thus, as the newbie gains more experience the second section of the book will then apply to them.

And all done in a step by step way. With a tick-off checklist thing that can be printed and used.

Hope that helps a bit.

Michael Ross


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Philip July 17, 2003 08:27 PM

Re: HELP!!
 
I think one of the biggest things is how to distinguish yourself from all of the others offering the same product. Especially if one doesn't have the following and credibility YOU do:-)

Cheers

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Ankesh Kothari July 17, 2003 10:52 PM

Yeah I would like to read such a book too...
 
Plus...

Jim you also have an affiliate program for your fabulous reports. How do you keep the affiliates motivated? How do you make sure that you have good quality affiliates - super affiliates?


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Tam July 17, 2003 11:15 PM

WOW! A lot
 
I think Michael's post should help a lot - I think a book following his outline would do well.

Tam

> Here's ol' Jim. See him make thousands of
> dollars from affiliate commissions. See how
> he knows how to do it.

> Now watch him.

> Before writing about how to do it - and
> trying to second guess what it actually is
> people want to know - he is ASKing what we
> want to know about making money with
> affiliate sales. He is tailoring the product
> to fit the market.

> This should set Jim's report apart from
> every other affiliate report out there.

> ASK him your questions. The report is sure
> to be good.

> Question: As a new person to affiliate
> selling - and selling on the internet in
> general - I have no existing customers I can
> email an offer to. Can I still make money as
> an affiliate without an existing list of
> customers? If so, how? Please show examples.

> Question: As a person with a product I
> would like to have affiliates sell, how do I
> get affiliates? Is there anything I should
> do before getting affiliates? If so, what?
> Please show examples.

> Question: How do you find products to
> offer to your list? Step by step details
> please.

> Question: If the product I find does not
> already have an affiliate program in place,
> can I still sell it? If so, how do I go
> about it. Step by step details please.

> Question: I have heard many comments about
> "the big guys" not wanting to
> bother with anything that does not offer at
> least $40 in affiliate commission per sale.
> At 50% commission, that makes the product
> around the $80 mark. Do I have to follow
> that at least $40 per commission sale rule
> or can I sell lower priced items - $20 for
> example - and still do okay? What is the
> reasoning behind your answer. Please show
> examples.

> Question: Every man and his dog is selling
> reports on "How to make money on the
> internet." I have even heard that there
> are more people selling "how to make
> money online" information than there
> are people making money online. I see a lot
> of these affiliate promoted products are to
> do with making money online. I don't want to
> be just another person selling a "how
> to make money online" product. Please
> show by way opf step by step example, how to
> become a successful affiliate who sells
> products not related to making money online.

> And finally: Please include a step by step
> action plan. Something I can follow and tick
> off each item as done - in the correct order
> needed. Such as...

> Step 1: Got to www.suchandsuch.com and get
> such and such email software and install it.
> This will be the software you use to mail to
> your list.

> Step 2: Decide what market you want to sell
> to.

> Step 3: Decide what income goal you want.

> Step 4: Go for a walk and then come home and
> play a marathon game of monopoly with your
> neighbor. Loser buys the winner a lottery
> ticket.

> And so on. You get the idea. Something a
> real dummy can follow and still end up with
> something viable. As if you were exaplaing
> it to a five year old. Or leaving
> instructions for a new employee to follow.

> Some of the other items I would like to see
> covered include - autoresponders, getting
> other people to write your ads (if
> necesary), webpage creation (hired
> webdesigner or other method), payment
> processors for your own affiliate program,
> the possibility of doing JVs and sourcing
> products for those JVs.

> I'm basically thinking two books in one.

> One book - or section of the book - for
> total newbies. A take by the hand type book.
> Within nothing left out.

> The other book - or section of the book -
> for the more experienced affiliate marketer
> or person with a product they wish
> affiliates to sell.

> Thus, as the newbie gains more experience
> the second section of the book will then
> apply to them.

> And all done in a step by step way. With a
> tick-off checklist thing that can be printed
> and used.

> Hope that helps a bit.

> Michael Ross

J.F. (Jim) Straw July 18, 2003 11:50 AM

Thank You, Philip ... (dno) (DNO)
 

J.F. (Jim) Straw July 18, 2003 12:13 PM

Thank You, Michael ...
 
Your questions are just what I need ...

Over the past 30 years, I have never written about anything that I haven't done - and - for the past few years I have been telling people that I would only write about Internet marketing when I was doing it and could tell them "how" I was doing it.

As you noted, the purpose of my request for help was to find out what my potential readers needed to know ... so I could give them what they need.

Thank You, again. Your input goes a long way in my developing answers.

Jim

J.F. (Jim) Straw July 18, 2003 12:19 PM

I don't ...
 
To be quite frank with you, I have never tried to “motivate” any of my sales people (dealers, associates, whatever). I always figured that those individuals who were “real” would take the bull by the horns and make the sales to make the money, because ...

In the words of Andrew Carnegie:

"There is no use whatever trying to help people who do not help themselves. You cannot push anyone up a ladder unless he be willing to climb himself."

Beyond that, as Frank Tibolt said:

"We should be taught not to wait for inspiration to start a thing. Action always generates inspiration. Inspiration seldom generates action."

Rather than wasting my time trying to "motivate" people, I have always spent my time supporting the efforts of those who were doing something.

Just do it ...

Jim


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J.F. (Jim) Straw July 18, 2003 12:20 PM

Right you are, Tam ... (dno) (DNO)
 

Steve Gill July 18, 2003 05:39 PM

Sacrifice a site so we can learn from it
 
Jim,

One thing I would VERY much like to see you do is dissect one of your existing money making affiliate websites...

Tell us step-by-step how you conceived, researched, and created the site, and how much money is began generating for you... oh, and how you drove traffic to the site, etc. :)

I know many authors of such books are reluctant to provide that much detail about their sites because they believe someone will copy it... and they're probably correct.

Therefore you would essentially be sacrificing whatever site you use as an example, but perhaps the subsequent ebook sales (and the goodwill you generate) will make it worth the sacrifice.

If you write an ebook that includes this kind of information, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Good luck,

-Steve Gill
Arcana Media


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Ankesh Kothari July 19, 2003 04:07 AM

Re: I don't ...
 
hmm - maybe you would get better results if you did send irregular messages to your affiliates inspiring them.

Maybe sending them a success story of how some one else earned a good profit being your affiliate would give them the nudge they need to focus on selling your products.

In my experience - I have found that the first sale is the deciding factor. If the affiliate gets commission from his first sale within a week or so - he focuses more on selling the product. He has seen some results - and so he is all set to roll.

And in my experience - a few inspiring messages with case studies - would help the affiliate to get the first sale faster - and make him more determined in selling your products.

But I have never tested this - and don't know for sure if sending inspirational case studies does increase the results of the affiliates. But its worth testing.

Sincerely,
Ankesh Kothari


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J.F. (Jim) Straw July 22, 2003 01:12 PM

Thank You, Ankesh - but ...
 
Over the past 40 years, I have yet to find it worth the effort. And, YES, I have used every motivational trick in the book, at one time or another.

People who need to be stroked to do what they should do to make money really can't be helped.

Sorry,

Jim

J.F. (Jim) Straw July 22, 2003 01:14 PM

Thank You, Steve - but ...
 
I don't use affiliate sites.

That's one of the things I'll be explaining in my report.

Jim

Paul July 27, 2003 11:45 PM

Re: HELP!!
 
Hi Jim,

How about building an email list so we have someone to sell our affiliate programs to.

The real masters of affiliate money have large email lists, how do we go about building a large email list?

Thanks
Paul


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Reeder Lyons July 28, 2003 10:39 PM

Re: HELP!!
 
Jim:

Seemingly, within Paul's response is yet another question that is foundational to all list building. How does one build that bridge of trust so necessary to maintaining and keeping a loyal subscriber base?

My own experiences have shown that a picture of the "net-prenuer", and or his family, make a big difference for me in creating an affinity with someone I've never met. Perhaps there are other methods that could be discussed.

The step by step method is a needed commodity but to extrapolate that idea, perhaps you could give links to where "each step" could be best conducted and completed. So that each step builds upon and toward the next, giving me an attainable goal to reach and achieve.

I've been on the net almost 10 years and still feel confused by much of what is at my beck and call.

Perhaps your book could be sold in two stages so that those struggling with their finances could start with being a beginner and graduate to the more complex stages of entrepreneurial expertise.

Something that would be very helpful would be to have information about a program that you have sold yourself and could vouch for, so one could start out with a “guaranteed feeling”! A “feeling” that if they were to put the effort into this method that there would be a return on the investment. Most of “us” put MANY dollars into programs that are complicated at best and impossible at worst. Many of “us” would like to have someone show us the ropes for the beginner so that we could graduate to the more advance stages of success.

Success is not always measured in dollar signs, for many it is measured in the achievement of goals and then the dollars signs come as a natural result of learning that the achievement of goals is actually possible. When you bridge the gap for the multitudes that help them / us see that the “hope” you are selling is actually possible for “even me” then your product will have tangible viability.

Hope these gleaned pieces of information help.

Respectfully
Reeder Lyons
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PS I am one of your subscribers and would like to see your new book.

J.F. (Jim) Straw July 29, 2003 10:35 AM

Thank You, Reeder - but ...
 
Although it is absolutely necessary to become known if YOU are selling your own product or service - but ...

As an "affiliate marketer" you only need rely upon the notoriety of the person who is actually selling their product.

Nobody needs to know who you are ... they need to know the person selling the product.

Jim


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