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prodigy1290 February 16, 2010 02:48 AM

College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
Hey fellas,

Great forum, just got done skimming through ALOT of posts and man do you guys know your stuff!

Anyways, right now I am studying Accounting and I.S. at a university, but I am in desperate need of a new job/money to pay for school. This past summer I started my own curb painting business, and I have learned so much from it, and don't know if I can give it up. I made a lot of money, more than I expected. BUT, it is very hard to find places to paint, with all the competition and rules that these cities have.:mad:

I am planning on starting it back up this month, but am looking for some good ideas on finding locations or contacting home owner associations to do some contract work for them because now I have some good experience (painted 1,000's of houses) great quality too.

I was just seeing if anyone has any good information they can share with me OR if you guys have any new ideas that a college student can do.:)

I can def. get a job, but I cannot find anything more than $8 an hour, and that is just a waste of my time right now.:eek:

I was maybe thinking of starting a valet business with college students, but I can't really afford that right now. Maybe next year...;)

If you guys can help me out that would be great. I know the potential I can make painitng curbs, but I would like to move on from it.

Thanks.

Ankesh February 16, 2010 07:52 AM

Re: College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
Thanks for asking.

* Search for Lawrence's posts on this forum. He did very well with curb painting and installing security peep holes. His approach often got 80-90% of an entire neighbourhood to buy his services.

* Have you tried out fliers? Should definitely get you 2-3% response rate. For every 100 fliers you deliver to homes, 2-3 of them should call you for your services.

* After those initial sales, you can try referral marketing. Asking the buyers to recommend you to 3 of their neighbours.

* Contacting home owner associations is a good idea. Also contacting the local fire department and getting some sort of an endorsement from them works very well.

Adman February 17, 2010 12:33 PM

Try "Texting Coupons"
 
Here's 3 college guys who started a biz last year offering a "Texting Coupon" service to local businesses.

http://www.collegetokens.com

Click on Fayetteville, Ark That's where they started. I see they also went to Univ of OKLA in Norman, OK and got a bunch of advertisers.

What they've done is set up a service where businesses offer a Discount Coupon and people (mostly college kids) can either go to the website and have the coupons sent to their cell phones.

However....if you will send me an email, I will send you info on a guy who started a similar "Coupon Texting" biz from scratch with hardly any start up expense.

Why is this biz the "coming wave"? Because this service can fill a restaurant with diners almost instantly....and bring in buyers to Shoe and Clothing Stores, buyers for almost anything.

It's a "Discount Coupon" business without need for
Graphics
Printing
Paper
Envelopes
Labels
or Postage

These are "electronic" coupons sent to cell phones and all the recipient has to do is SHOW the display on their cell when they purchase.

Here's another site where the operators got 58 businesses to participate and 11,000 subscribers. http://www.textbux.com

College Kids have money to spend and will go to the businesses where they get the best deals. Ex: A pizza shop sending a text coupon offering "$1 off a Slice of Pizza for Lunch" ....will bring in MANY college kids THAT DAY. ETC.

Again...send me an email ([email protected]) and I'll help you get this set up in your area....and....how to get local businesses pay $50 a week.

Don Alm

GordonJ February 17, 2010 02:24 PM

A twist on Groupon.
 
Know Groupon dot com?

www.groupon.com

Twist the idea (as Phil might say) and add Don Alm's in...and you may be onto something.

At Groupon, you can get a discount IF enough people BUY...if not, you don't get the discount and it costs nothing.

Imagine a college town pizza shop, where, perhaps on an "off" day, like Tuesday, you got them to give a HUGE discount, IF you were able to get enough students to buy that day? The revenue you could make would come from your efforts or your hosting or your texting...you would be the toll booth between the supply and demand.

I've been trying to get Groupon to set up shop in West Palm Beach, FL and we may get it soon.

SELLING ADVERTISING is never going away, and when you catch the early wave, you can ride it to tsunami like profits.

Twist and turn it like a Shaun White snowboarding exhibit.

Gordon

Phil February 18, 2010 12:35 AM

Few more... 8Coupons, Yipit, Peanut Labs, Tippr, Scoop St, BuyWithMe, LivingSocial...
 
Gordon,

Good Find on Groupon...

Let's put a few more little Spins on the overall Concept!

Get your Brainstorming and Thinking Caps on... :)

Bet we'll be seeing Many more up and coming related ideas...

Best of Luck Negotiating and setting up shop in West Palm Beach, FL...

8Coupons, Yipit, Peanut Labs, Tippr, Scoop St, BuyWithMe, LivingSocial...
http://news.google.com/news/search?a...l=en&q=groupon
http://news.google.com/news/search?a...q=Group-Buying

http://www.8coupons.com/
http://yipit.com/
http://peanutlabs.com/
http://www.tippr.com/
http://www.scoopst.com/
http://www.buywithme.com/
http://livingsocial.com/
http://www.dealon.com/
http://springwise.com/retail/crowdsprout/

The Chinese term for group buying is Tuángňu... ;)
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...eamBuying.aspx

Phil

Adman February 18, 2010 01:08 AM

Re: College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
Yup....the BIG boys are in this one. However, from my years of experience there is ALWAYS ROOM for people who want to operate in "small towns".

For ex: Here's 2 guys who own a Book Store in a college town. They started up a Text coupon dealee last year and have 58 advertisers and over 11,000 subscribers (probably mostlu college kids)
http://www.textbux.com I don't think they're charging enough for their program though. Heck, this thing should be worth at least $50 a week to ANY business. Just MO.

Now....here's 2 operations that offer "SMS Text Service".

http://www.textmarks.com
and
http://www.adking.com

The last one is by "Brandel" who've been in the Biz-Op thingee for years. They run full page ads in the Opportunity Mags and get many people paying their monthly fees. Could be a good place to start.

I've found 2 sms services that are free, as of now.

Thus....if you could get this going in a college town, you could practically name your own price. Just 1,000 college kids as subscribers could command a BIG weekly or monthly fee.

Get on this one quick. Consumers are looking for the best deals and biz owners are looking for customers.

Don Alm

prodigy1290 February 18, 2010 02:31 AM

Re: College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
Hey Don Alm, I sent you an email, if you could maybe help me get the ball rolling on this. Im very interested in this, and think this could work out for me in my city.

Also, with the curb painting, im going to start filling out business permits and such again to get this started as well. I think I can do pretty well with this one.

prodigy1290 February 18, 2010 02:40 AM

Re: College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
Thank you for all the responses! I appreciate the help!:) Anyways, a few questions:

How much is a good price to charge a week for this service. $50 seems a bit steep for a new business, especially one run by college kids.

How do I go about getting phone numbers from students (subscription)? Maybe set a booth up on campus? Flyers? Signs? I think a website is simply not enough. I guess anything would really work.

I really think I could get a good business in my city if I really plan and go about this the right way the first time, to get some credibility.

Also, how do those text messaging services work? Are they simple to work with?

Thanks for the help guys.


I have a few ideas on our business name and website address.

ramirezhenry55 February 18, 2010 10:43 AM

Re: College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
^Kudos for you to have the courage to be an entrepreneur at a very young age.

Adman February 18, 2010 08:00 PM

Hey! How bout "Ads on Pizza Boxes"?
 
What's a college kids favorite food? Stew? Carrots & Peas? Naw! It's....

P I Z Z A !

You provide free Ad Sheets (that are taped onto pizza boxes) to local Pizza Delivery biz.

You then sell Ad Space to local biz owners wanting to reach college kids.

You could even expand beyond campus to "regular" folks.

I used to get 6c to 8c per ad depending on the size for 5,000 sheets. 12 ads per sheet.

You'll have to find a printer and graphics person to do the ads but, shouldn't be hard finding these.

Here's one I found http://www.pizzaboxtopads.com You don't have to do Full Color either.

Advertisers would LOVE to be on Pizza Boxes.

Sure beats painting curbs.

Don Alm

Adman February 19, 2010 06:30 PM

Holy Schamoly!
 
Because my post about "Ads on Pizza boxes" got me interested in these again, I decided to go visit a pizza biz and whala....I discovered he's moving 1,000 Pizza Bozes a WEEK!

In 13 weeks, that's 13,000 Boxes.

I asked the owner if he'd stick MY "Ad Sheets" on his boxes and....I'd put his coupon offers on the back....in FULL Color....at NO Charge.

He said; "Go For It!

So...I check with my internet printer and see that 10,000 sheets, full color, 2 sides will cost me....$380 ($240 for 5,000)

So....what would a business (professional or medico) pay to have their ad go INTO 10,000 Homes?

A few yrs ago, I found they'd pay 8cents/box....so....I think they'd pay $790 each today. ($395 deposit and $395 on proof)

$790 x 16 ads = $12,640 less $380.

And...I've just now (Fri afternoon) gotten "verbal OK's" from 3 biz owners and 1 dentist. People I know who'd LOVE to have their ad go into 10,000 LOCAL homes for 8cents ea! So....looks like this program is a Go.

So...this weekend it looks like I'll make up some Sample Sheets and go out a collect money next week. It's there, waiting to be picked up.

Man O Man....it still amazes me that there are people who sit around and moan and whine about the "economy" or "no jobs" or...whatever.

Just pick yerself up and go do something! Granted, I've been UNemployed my whole life so I don't know what it's like to "go hunting for a job"....I've trained myself to "create jobs"...and opportunities are ALL around....in ANY economy.

Don Alm....STILL actively creating

Phil February 19, 2010 08:55 PM

Re: Hey! How bout "Ads on Pizza Boxes"?
 
Hey Don,

A little more Food for thought...

And a few other Spins on all kinds of Pizza related ideas...

There's some Big Money making "Cheese" going around these days if you're a Smart, innovative and Creative Pizza Entrepreneur...

Think Endless Pizza long tail related Keywords...

GEO Local/World-wide Niches that are making the Pizza industry a Hot & Thriving! ... Marketplace-Trend to Watch and invest into... :)

A few Quick picks for Brainstorming...
http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/2009...-on-tests.html
http://www.pizzaboxmarketing.net/
http://www.freshtracksmedia.com/
http://www.emcoutdoor.com/pizza_box_ads.htm
http://www.mangiamedia.com/pizza_box_news.html
http://www.pizzaturnaround.com/
http://MarketMyPizza.com
http://www.toxel.com/inspiration/200...a-advertising/

And Don't Forget to Claim your Nice little Slice and Get into Pizza Domaining... ;)

Read carefully and pay close Attention to detail...
http://news.google.com/news/more?um=...pLbB2cFvi0ovyM

Phil

Matt Laporte February 19, 2010 09:55 PM

Re: College entrepreneur looking for something new. Plz read.
 
Hey prodigy, how's it going buddy. There are loads of opportunities for you out there.
I suggest you sit and write down some of your interests/things you are good at.
Then think about how each of these attributes or activities you enjoy could solve a problem for people. All great businesses are great because they solve a problem.
People buy because they have a problem and the cost of the product is worth the expense to solve their problem.

Also, you could join the best business or get hired at the best company but if you lack a mentor or coach who can guide you, success is difficult.

Look for a mentor or coach who will give you action steps you can implement and who will guide you on your way.

Networking is also a key to a job, business opp. etc.

Best of luck my friend.
Take care,
Matt

-TW February 20, 2010 02:27 AM

Wow that one video squeeze page is a trip!
 
marketmypizza.com

that guy sounds like that godfather thing -- "either your signature or your brains will be on that contract..." wow.

Phil February 20, 2010 03:43 AM

Re: Wow that one video squeeze page is a trip!
 
Figured TW and Eddie would have a thing or two in common... :)

And of course, those ever so Famous #1 Secrets!

Definitely intriguing, in one sort or another Applying that "shpiel" into your own Marketing game tactics and ideas... ;)
http://marketmypizza.com/

Phil

JMeyers February 21, 2010 01:48 PM

How would you get businesses to sign up?
 
Hi All,

I like the idea of a booth on campus. How about giving a $1.00 bill to each student that gives you their phone number? It would be easy enough to confirm you aren't getting duplicate numbers and you'd have a line a block long. And maybe offer 50-cents to each additional number they convince to sign up?

My question would be how to go about convincing businesses to sign up for the service. Would this be done in-person? What about a letter to each business - and who would you address this to?

- John Meyers


Quote:

Originally Posted by prodigy1290 (Post 25949)
Thank you for all the responses! I appreciate the help!:) Anyways, a few questions:

How much is a good price to charge a week for this service. $50 seems a bit steep for a new business, especially one run by college kids.

How do I go about getting phone numbers from students (subscription)? Maybe set a booth up on campus? Flyers? Signs? I think a website is simply not enough. I guess anything would really work.

I really think I could get a good business in my city if I really plan and go about this the right way the first time, to get some credibility.

Also, how do those text messaging services work? Are they simple to work with?

Thanks for the help guys.


I have a few ideas on our business name and website address.


Glenn February 22, 2010 02:30 PM

Advice from Tony-Exclusive Painter to Multi-Millionaires
 
Dear Protegy,

Thanks.

Good question.

Tony is a long time Free ezine member & a painter for very rich retirees.

I just chatted with him about a 15k No Exercise Guaranteed 3 to 5 lb a week wgt loss machine. Many of these people are heavy.

Which is when...

Tony told me about the commercial paint store
that all the Pro Painters use to mix high quality paint colors. (One in every neighborhood)

Go in there with some paint chips to match - as an excuse.

Chat with some of the pro painters.

Get them bragging and complaining about their rich tightwad clients.

Find an affluent high-rise or neighborhood.

GO DOOR TO DOOR - with a booklet of Thank you notes and testimonials from people you've done work for...

OFFER to Do work AT COST in return for 10 referrals to neighbors and relatives and friends EQUAL to or better than they are as a prospect.

Make them understand you expect them to CALL these people on your behalf WHEN you make them HAPPY with your work.

You won't get far
on a Saturday... Before several people take you Up on your offer.

And VOILA!

Just like that you are knee deep in Higher Paying Affluent Customers.

IF YOU TREAT THEM LIKE GOLD, you will be so unusual, they will line up to PAY you.

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn

P.S. - Give Away FREE Stuff - like I do in all my Ebay auctions...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...23649w t_1167


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