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ThePromotionalGuy.com April 22, 2010 08:14 AM

Be Wearier Of Whom You Buy From
 
Greetings Dien, Gordon and the Group,

I am posting this at several business websites to be a warning of how some will lure you to their website by posting supposed success stories, to win your confidence, then take advantage of you by grabbing your money, but never deliver on their promises.

After about a month of emails back and forth, with excuses and pretending to not know what I was referring to, this individual refunded my money claiming I wanted to Re-sell their material. I didn't. I wanted to put it to the test to see if it was more viable streams of income.

But the long and short of it is he didn't think I would request his bonuses per his report's instructions and continue to follow up when he wouldn't respond. I followed the instructions to the letter but he delayed and delayed repeatedly until he was forced to refund my money.

Sadly, I've defended this person in the past. Today there is validly to the claims that this person should not be trusted.

FirstBorn April 22, 2010 03:21 PM

MUST Be the SAME Person that *I* Ordered From!
 
Hi Woody,

Thank you for posting this.

This is EXACTLY the SAME Thing that *I* Warned others
about when I ordered one of his 'specials' back in Sept.
(I believe) 2005.

There was a "Hurricane Katrina Specail" posted Here and
on a few other forums by this 'individual' that was supposed
to send 2 trucks with Toilet Paper to the victims of
Hurricane Katrina in LA.

One difference between YOUR Refund and MINE, though, is
that this individual THREATENED Me and My Family and
harm to My Property, as well...

HE did the offering for the Refund w/ a BAD ATTITUDE when
ALL I ASKed for was to answer 5 SIMPLE Q's that related to
the poorly put together 'report' and he could only answer 1
of the Q's...

Once he offered the Refund, he DISAPPEARED from ANY FORM
of Contact (via phone and email.)

You Might end UP having to get a charge back 'cause that is
what *I* had to do...

Be careful, 'cause he's probably going to SLANDER YOU and
say that he sent something 'more glowing' than it was...
... and that you probably work at a Motel 6 or something...

Good Luck getting your money back!

Thanks,
Christopher

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePromotionalGuy.com (Post 26319)
Greetings Dien, Gordon and the Group,

I am posting this at several business websites to be a warning of how some will lure you to their website by posting supposed success stories, to win your confidence, then take advantage of you by grabbing your money, but never deliver on their promises.

After about a month of emails back and forth, with excuses and pretending to not know what I was referring to, this individual refunded my money claiming I wanted to Re-sell their material. I didn't. I wanted to put it to the test to see if it was more viable streams of income.

But the long and short of it is he didn't think I would request his bonuses per his report's instructions and continue to follow up when he wouldn't respond. I followed the instructions to the letter but he delayed and delayed repeatedly until he was forced to refund my money.

Sadly, I've defended this person in the past. Today there is validly to the claims that this person should not be trusted.


Arthur April 22, 2010 04:28 PM

Re: Be Wearier Of Whom You Buy From
 
You asked for refund because you did not get bonuses?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePromotionalGuy.com (Post 26319)
Greetings Dien, Gordon and the Group,

I am posting this at several business websites to be a warning of how some will lure you to their website by posting supposed success stories, to win your confidence, then take advantage of you by grabbing your money, but never deliver on their promises.

After about a month of emails back and forth, with excuses and pretending to not know what I was referring to, this individual refunded my money claiming I wanted to Re-sell their material. I didn't. I wanted to put it to the test to see if it was more viable streams of income.

But the long and short of it is he didn't think I would request his bonuses per his report's instructions and continue to follow up when he wouldn't respond. I followed the instructions to the letter but he delayed and delayed repeatedly until he was forced to refund my money.

Sadly, I've defended this person in the past. Today there is validly to the claims that this person should not be trusted.


ThePromotionalGuy.com April 22, 2010 05:03 PM

Re: Be Wearier Of Whom You Buy From
 
Arthur,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur (Post 26325)
You asked for refund because you did not get bonuses?


I never asked for a refund. It started with not getting his reports. It took a week of asking and eventually he emailed them to me.

On the last page of his report he offers free bonuses and all I had to do is send him an email stating that I am satisfied and he would email me the bonuses.

After nearly 2 weeks and no bonuses, I began inquiring as to where they were. That's when he told me to be patient and that I would get my bonuses eventually.

Next thing I know, he's issued me a refund and accused me of wanting to resell his material. What he failed to remember is that I asked him if he had an affiliate program in place like Jim Straw.

He never got back with me on that matter. That's too bad, because I would have promoted his material to my lists. But that won't happen now.

Arthur April 22, 2010 05:15 PM

Re: Be Wearier Of Whom You Buy From
 
So you do not ask for refund. The seller can not deliver the bonus. So he gives a refund with out you asking. And then you complain on forum? You got product for free. Be happy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePromotionalGuy.com (Post 26326)
Arthur,



I never asked for a refund. It started with not getting his reports. It took a week of asking and eventually he emailed them to me.

On the last page of his report he offers free bonuses and all I had to do is send him an email stating that I am satisfied and he would email me the bonuses.

After nearly 2 weeks and no bonuses, I began inquiring as to where they were. That's when he told me to be patient and that I would get my bonuses eventually.

Next thing I know, he's issued me a refund and accused me of wanting to resell his material. What he failed to remember is that I asked him if he had an affiliate program in place like Jim Straw.

He never got back with me on that matter. That's too bad, because I would have promoted his material to my lists. But that won't happen now.


ThePromotionalGuy.com April 22, 2010 06:08 PM

Re: Be Wearier Of Whom You Buy From
 
Arthur,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur (Post 26327)
So you do not ask for refund. The seller can not deliver the bonus. So he gives a refund with out you asking. And then you complain on forum? You got product for free. Be happy.


What's to be happy about? No product or amount of money can replace this salesman's integrity.

Adman April 22, 2010 08:23 PM

I'm curious....
 
Did you order because of the Bonuses...or because of the material in the Program?

Also...why would you send an email saying you were "satisfied" with the initial program?...then ask for the Bonuses...which were NOT mentioned in any of the Initial material?

Here's the email you sent;
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
Don,

Outstanding material! I’M TOTALLY SATISFIED WITH WHAT I’VE RECEIVED THUS FAR

Please send me the extra bonuses.

Woody Quinones - The Promotional Guy
www.ThePromotionalGuy.com
www.MyLittleWhiteMug.com
1747 Augustine Place
Tallahassee, FL 32301
(850) 508-8988
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++

I chose NOT to send you the "Extra Materials" because of the way you requested them. I simply issued a refund.

[Text Removed By Admin]

Have yer fun guys! Whatever "makes you happy"!

Don Alm

Adman April 22, 2010 08:42 PM

Actually...
 
Your post here Mr Woody... ...just because you didn't get your "bonuses"?


Don Alm....

FirstBorn April 22, 2010 08:51 PM

Re: Actually...
 
Told Ya, Woody...

btw/ I didn't read ANY HATE, just the FACTS were relayed.
Kudos to You, Woody!

Cornell April 22, 2010 10:23 PM

The answer is in the posts
 
Here we go again...kind of amusing actually.

If you want the answer just carefully re-read the 2 main posts...it's right there in black and white.

Arthur April 23, 2010 02:19 AM

Re: I'm curious....
 
What is the right way to request the extra material bonuses from you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adman (Post 26329)

I chose NOT to send you the "Extra Materials" because of the way you requested them. I simply issued a refund.



Arthur April 23, 2010 02:28 AM

Re: Be Wearier Of Whom You Buy From
 
What's to be grumpy about? You did not get bonus. You got refund. Giving refund if you can not deliver product shows integrity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePromotionalGuy.com (Post 26328)
Arthur,



What's to be happy about? No product or amount of money can replace this salesman's integrity.


Ankesh April 23, 2010 02:45 AM

Re: Actually...
 
Dien has made only a few simple rules for this forum:

Quote:


1. No insults or personal attacks.
2. No blatant ads.

Now you guys can talk about your transactions and how it went wrong and whose fault it was as much as you want in public. But any insults or personal attacks and your posts will be very heavily edited - even if it changes the entire meaning of your posts.

So be civil. Or don't post on SowPub.

FirstBorn April 23, 2010 06:20 AM

... and the Guilty Party is...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankesh (Post 26335)
Dien has made only a few simple rules for this forum:



Now you guys can talk about your transactions and how it went wrong and whose fault it was as much as you want in public. But any insults or personal attacks and your posts will be very heavily edited - even if it changes the entire meaning of your posts.

So be civil. Or don't post on SowPub.


Hi Ankesh,

Thank you for your input.

Notice that the ONLY "Insults or personal attacks" came from "adman"

Woody didn't even use the NAME of the "guilty party."
Therefore, it isn't a "PERSONAL" attack.

Woody just explained a personal experience and warned to:
"Be Wearier of Whom You Buy From."

Woody did this Without Mentioning Names.

Guess that someone must've had a guilty conscience and had to
go on an outrage and personally attack Woody.

Notice, the ONLY party here mentioning names.

Thanks,
Christopher

Ankesh April 23, 2010 06:33 AM

Re: ... and the Guilty Party is...
 
Yes. And as a result, Woody's posts were not edited in any way.

(My post was to make sure that things dont escalate - as they so often have before...)

FirstBorn April 23, 2010 07:18 AM

Thank You!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankesh (Post 26337)
Yes. And as a result, Woody's posts were not edited in any way.

(My post was to make sure that things dont escalate - as they so often have before...)


Dear Ankesh,

Thank You for deleting the unnecessary comments from the party.

You're doing an excellent job moderating.

Thanks,
Christopher

ThePromotionalGuy.com April 23, 2010 08:18 AM

Re: MUST Be the SAME Person that *I* Ordered From!
 
Chris,

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstBorn (Post 26323)
One difference between YOUR Refund and MINE, though, is
that this individual THREATENED Me and My Family and
harm to My Property, as well...


Thanks for your input. As for this person threatening me or my family, publicly or privately, won't effect me as mush as it will effect them.

Being that I use to be a vendor for the Federal government, I've kept in touch with many of my old clients.

I contacted one of my friends that works for Homeland Security, the Tallahassee Field Office, and he told me how to handle this matter, should threats be made.

FirstBorn April 23, 2010 08:25 AM

Re: MUST Be the SAME Person that *I* Ordered From!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePromotionalGuy.com (Post 26339)
Chris,



Thanks for your input. As for this person threatening me or my family, publicly or privately, won't effect me as mush as it will effect them.

Being that I use to be a vendor for the Federal government, I've kept in touch with many of my old clients.

I contacted one of my friends that works for Homeland Security, the Tallahassee Field Office, and he told me how to handle this matter, should threats be made.


Hi Woody,

I see that your location is listed as in Florida.

Are You any where near Tampa?

Thanks,
Christopher

Adman April 23, 2010 10:15 AM

"Beam Me Up Scotty...
 
Don Alm....

Adman April 23, 2010 10:24 AM

Hey "FirstBorn"
 
Now I remember WHO you are;

What Honorable people we have here!

Don Alm....

ThePromotionalGuy.com April 23, 2010 09:47 PM

Re: MUST Be the SAME Person that *I* Ordered From!
 
Chris,

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstBorn (Post 26340)
Hi Woody,

I see that your location is listed as in Florida.

Are You any where near Tampa?

Thanks,
Christopher


No, I'm in Tallahassee, the State's Capital. Tampa is south of us about 3-4 hours away.


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