What car do you want to drive for FREE. Challenge.
 

Hi,

By the rules of the game:

1.You are in New York.
2. It is forbidden to use cash.
3. It is forbidden to use credit (you have only your driver's license on you).
4. It is forbidden to ask friends and relatives to BUY a car for you.

Your goal is to drive a car of your choosing by the end of the second day (you have 48 hours).

What further restrictions do you suggest?

What would you do?

Simon
PS I sincerely hope that Michael Ross helps here (I was amazed at his ability to come up with ingenious plans).

Personal message for Gordon and Dien.

Gordon, THIS situation/challenge is the crux of every answer to "how to make money" questions.

Dien,
A couple of days back you told us about your "traveling" friend.
Same challenge applies here.
You want to travel around the globe.
Again, no cards, no credit.

You will easily recognize Einstein's "imaginary experiments" in this type of challenge.
The more restrictions, the better.

By the way, they say that FBI is routinely posing this type of challenges for their agents.

no criminal actions eg stealing car allowed
 

when u say u have to drive it does it mean u have to actually own it or just drive it for a test drive? say.
mike

> Hi,

> By the rules of the game:

> 1.You are in New York.
> 2. It is forbidden to use cash.
> 3. It is forbidden to use credit (you have
> only your driver's license on you).
> 4. It is forbidden to ask friends and
> relatives to BUY a car for you.

> Your goal is to drive a car of your choosing
> by the end of the second day (you have 48
> hours).

> What further restrictions do you suggest?

> What would you do?

> Simon
> PS I sincerely hope that Michael Ross helps
> here (I was amazed at his ability to come up
> with ingenious plans).

> Personal message for Gordon and Dien.

> Gordon, THIS situation/challenge is the crux
> of every answer to "how to make
> money" questions.

> Dien,
> A couple of days back you told us about your
> "traveling" friend.
> Same challenge applies here.
> You want to travel around the globe.
> Again, no cards, no credit.

> You will easily recognize Einstein's
> "imaginary experiments" in this
> type of challenge.
> The more restrictions, the better.

> By the way, they say that FBI is routinely
> posing this type of challenges for their
> agents.

If You Are Interested in FBI Challenge.
 

If You Are Interested in FBI Challenge.

1.You are "stranded" in the town you don't know.
2.You have absolutely nothing on you
no cash
no credit cards
NO ID.

Challenge:
In a week you have to return to the "base" with cash, credit, AND...
ID (fakes are not accepted).

Now, what would YOU do?

Later about one of the "winners".

Simon

Re: What car do you want to drive for FREE. Challenge.
 

It's an interesting challenge.

But you don't specify HOW LONG I need to drive the car for.

If it's just for a couple of hours, here's a couple of ways to do it:

1.) Get a job with a valet company at a hotel. Once you get the jacket, drive off with the car.

When you return, tell them that you thought part of the job requirement was to take the car out for a wash. Look quizical at them when they get angry at you.

2.) Go to Kinko's and print up some "Car Detail" business cards. Get yourself to a large Real Estate office and offer to take the car for a few hours and detail it.

3.) If you're in the South, many times a car dealership will let you test drive a car by yourself... or borrow it for half a day. (I've actually done this.) It works best if you have a friend and you're test driving a truck that has only room for two people.

There was a guy named Victor Something-or-the-Other who wrote a book about his training in the Mossad (Israeli CIA). They made him do all kinds of stuff like this. To gain use of someone's apartment, he would often tell them that he was a location scout for a movie production company, and needed their apartment to take some photos.

-Adam.

I mean you can drive it for business and/or pleasure for as long as you like...
 

Thanks,

Actually, it's an opened-ended game.

YOU can formulate any rule and come up with multiple challenges (games).

In the subject I chose the rule that reflects MY understanding of what it is to "own".

It's "to control" for as long as you like.

Simon

Adam: Your Search Engine Spy/Detective Project... Relevancy
 

Adam,

1.Is this the book?

Victor Ostrovsky
"By way of deception (the training of an intelligence case officer in one a legendary Israeli spy organization)"?

2.I think that your "Search Engine Spy/Detective" Project is very promising.

Reason:
If we take the agent/spy/detective metaphor SERIOUSLY and analyze their challenges, we'll see that in order to learn how to make productive BUSINESS decisions we'd better study techniques that have nothing to do with common-sense business.

Simon

Re: Adam: Your Search Engine Spy/Detective Project... Relevancy
 

Simon,

Yes... that is the book.

As for the search engine thing... it was a test for a product/service idea. Soon after I launched it, several of the free e-books on SE placement came out, and I realized that the market had hit an over-saturation for products of that sort.

By the way... the domain names are for sale at a very reasonable price.

http://www.searchenginehitmen.com and
www.searchenginehitman.com

I'm currently working on bigger and better projects that more easily "shoot the planes on the ground."

Warm regards,
Adam.

Re: What car do you want to drive for FREE. Challenge.
 

G'day Adam,

> 1.) Get a job with a valet company at a
> hotel. Once you get the jacket, drive off
> with the car.

> When you return, tell them that you thought
> part of the job requirement was to take the
> car out for a wash. Look quizical at them
> when they get angry at you.

Heheh.... I like that.... That would sure take "chutzpah"! :)

> There was a guy named Victor
> Something-or-the-Other who wrote a book
> about his training in the Mossad (Israeli
> CIA). They made him do all kinds of stuff
> like this. To gain use of someone's
> apartment, he would often tell them that he
> was a location scout for a movie production
> company, and needed their apartment to take
> some photos.

I've heard of the book "By way of deception," but I've never read it.... Sounds like it would be a very interesting read....

Hmm.... this is an interesting challenge.... :)

- Dien

Thought experiments....
 

Hi Simon,

A very interesting challenge.... I don't have a response yet but I'll try to see if I can think something up! (I liked Adam's response.... :))

> You will easily recognize Einstein's
> "imaginary experiments" in this
> type of challenge.
> The more restrictions, the better.

Yes, Einstein was big on "thought experiments". Galileo was too.... They're a very powerful technique. I've even published some of my own "thought experiments" in physics too (in some research papers)....

It also makes sense you could "think" your way through various hypotheticals, then try them out, to make it big in business too....

> By the way, they say that FBI is routinely
> posing this type of challenges for their
> agents.

I can see how doing lots of these would really help develop your "street smarts"!

Thanks Simon.... This is very interesting.... Now I have to go and ponder.... :)

- Dien

Re: What car do you want to drive for FREE. Challenge.
 

> Hi,

> By the rules of the game:

> 1.You are in New York.
> 2. It is forbidden to use cash.
> 3. It is forbidden to use credit (you have
> only your driver's license on you).
> 4. It is forbidden to ask friends and
> relatives to BUY a car for you.

One summer several decades ago, my car refused to
work. Being the lazy bum that I was, I didn't
have the money to get it fixed. So, I got a job
selling ice cream from a truck. I rode around in
it for a month. The only draw back was every time
I stopped, little children would surround my
truck and not let me go until they had given me
money. :)

Hmmm Lets See...
 

> 1.You are in New York.
> 2. It is forbidden to use cash.
> 3. It is forbidden to use credit (you have
> only your driver's license on you).
> 4. It is forbidden to ask friends and
> relatives to BUY a car for you.

> Your goal is to drive a car of your choosing
> by the end of the second day (you have 48
> hours).

> What would you do?

Well, if I was buying a car, there's little chance I could get a new one within such a short time frame. All that dealer stuff about making the car ready would delay it.

Second-hand? I could probably do that. As I can't use cash I'd just get a bank check. Money held in escrow with a check that draws on that.

Go to a car yard and ask to go for a test drive. As the goal is "to drive a car..." that would fulfill the requirements.

Check out the newspaper - the cars for sale section. And call the sellers up and take their car for a test drive.

If I'm to buy the car, a no-money-down deal may be possible. But then the owner would be providing credit.

Then there's "Drive Aways." Find someone - car dealer for instance - who needs a car driven from one location to another and be the person to drive it. Is this a real possibility? I don't know... I'm going by what I remember from the movie "The Hitcher" with Rutger Hauer.

Find a "sales" job that provides a car.

Whatever car I get, that becomes the car of my choosing. Henry Ford style... any car I want as long as it's...

Car auction? What are the rules in NY?

Find someone who has the car I want and do a deal to swap my labor for the ability to drive it. Exchange my labor for driving the car instead of wages.

Find an old aged person who can't drive to well and drive them around in their car.

Lots of way to "drive a car".

Michael Ross.

Re: If You Are Interested in FBI Challenge.
 

> 1.You are "stranded" in the town
> you don't know.
> 2.You have absolutely nothing on you
> no cash
> no credit cards
> NO ID.

> Challenge:
> In a week you have to return to the
> "base" with cash, credit, AND...
> ID (fakes are not accepted).

Damned if I know, it took me 3 weeks to get a copy
of my birth certificate. So, post the thing, I'm
dying of curiosity!!!!!

Re: If You Are Interested in FBI Challenge.
 

Hi Simon,

I don't know either! Please tell us how one of the "winners" did it.... :)

- Dien

> If You Are Interested in FBI Challenge.

> 1.You are "stranded" in the town
> you don't know.
> 2.You have absolutely nothing on you
> no cash
> no credit cards
> NO ID.

> Challenge:
> In a week you have to return to the
> "base" with cash, credit, AND...
> ID (fakes are not accepted).

> Now, what would YOU do?

> Later about one of the "winners".

> Simon