What we're doing here at Sowpub... What's the goal...?
 

There's that old saying...

Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day...
Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for a lifetime...

That saying spells out exactly what we're trying to do here at Sowpub...

There are thousands of pages here of free information - from people's ideas, their successes and failures, and simply advice that comes from business experience - on how to make money for yourself... So you can be self-supporting, and also to help you support your loved ones...

If more people knew this information, I truly believe we would have less poverty, less "unemployment", and even more happier and healthier people...

Of course, it's not always easy to get this information "out there." Even if you're giving a lot of it away for free!

Does anyone have any ideas... How can we get this information "out there" more effectively, to help more people learn how they can support themselves (and not be dependent on handouts)...?

How can we turn this into a kind of "revolution" - to help ourselves, help our country, and heck, even help the human race?

Best wishes,

Dien

Oh, so now, 16 years later...NOW you finally tell me?
 

If only I had known. :D

For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these: "It might have been!"

John Greenleaf Whittier-- Maud Muller

Gordon.

PS. Working on a screenplay of Maud Muller, maybe, ME as the Judge, JLaw as Maud??? Hello, Hollywood (knocking on mic, "this thing on?")

Re: What we're doing here at Sowpub... What's the goal...?
 

Dien,

I believe your motives and ideals are noble to say the least. Helping humanity always seems like the right thing to do. Jesus himself tried and look where we are. Oh well who am I to make comparisons, right?

But, here goes. After reading thousands of posts on this forum here is what I believe to be the bottom line:

People do what they want to do and NOT what they need to do.

All you have to do is re-read some of your and Gordon's posts and I think you'll come to the same conclusion. Therefore, at least IMHO, you can lead them to water but you can't make them drink.

Here is a real life example. I am the only insurance agent in my area who can give a person a free insurance policy. Yep, first year no premium accidental death policy. I thought this would be a no brainer and everyone who knew me would accept it.

Was I surprised when 50% of them said no thank you. Imagine the insurance world giving away insurance with NO catch. Unheard of. So, I sat back and analyzed the why behind their no. One thought is it could be the reputation of the insurance world and, by extension, me. Everything they do has a catch so of course free insurance is merely an enticement into a trap.

Maybe some of the readers/members feel that way about Sowpub. All your free info/ideas/programs are merely traps. Hence low participation. Maybe they think this stuff is too good to be true which is another way to say trap.

I don't know. But I do know you guys have a great forum and while trying to reach the masses of asses is what everybody does maybe creating an air of exclusiveness to Sowpub might be the way to go. Then, probably, people will be begging to be members.

Here's another example. I have another product that will give you an income for life and when you die your beneficiary gets the principal. Simple and straightforward, just put your money down. Unlike other products that eat your principal when you die, this one gives it to your bennie. Guess how many people don't believe that?

Not trying to sell anyone any insurance. It happens to be my world at the moment so I use it as my example. Also, Gordon hasn't told me how to win the powerball :D :D :D so I am stuck in a one dimensional universe.

Let me toss in a book that may help:

It is by Harry Browne and is titled:

How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World

and can be downloaded at:

http://metaphysicspirit.com/books/Ho...%20Wor ld.pdf

Good luck in your endeavors.

Took the words out of my mouth...
 

I'm happy sandalwood has clear examples to back
this up.

It still boils down to the first part of the
famous Net Profit Generation System (NPGS)-
PROSPECT

The only people who can gain from the LOADS of
useful information here are people who are READY!

Like me for instance. When I stumbled on this
forum early this year, I was about to start
gnashing my teeth in regret as in "I wish I had
found this 10 years ago."

..Until I thought about it deeply.

10 years I was much younger... and much more
foolish.

10 years ago I wouldn't have given this forum a
second look as I was too busy chasing the next
shiny object.

The only reason I am getting value from this forum
today is because I am now READY for this.

Everybody is at their own stage of development.

To quote the immortal Jim Rohn:

"Don't send your ducks to eagle school. Why?
Because it won't work.

Good people are found not changed. They can change
themselves, but you can't change them. You want
good people, you have to find them.

If you want motivated people, you have to find
them, not motivate them."

Re: What we're doing here at Sowpub... What's the goal...?
 

Let me add one more little bit:

You can't make old friends...

If you can decipher the hidden message, you're on your way to success.

Re: What we're doing here at Sowpub... What's the goal...?
 

Here's some information that people really need to know... We Are Only Limited by Weakness of Attention and Poverty of Imagination... Pass it forward...

Just wondering...
 

First, thank you for sharing this; I find it
helpful.

Now, maybe I'm finding it a bit hard to digest,
but can anyone really expand his "imagination"
without help?

If all I've known is how to use a hammer, can I
play a guitar without help from someone who knows
how to play one?

Another thing I get from this video is that our
results more or less reflect our level of
thinking. But...

Since thinking isn't taught in schools, how do
we learn how to think?

And how do we know when to draw the line between
thinking and over-thinking?

Maybe I'm over-thinking this...

Re: What we're doing here at Sowpub... What's the goal...?
 

Thanks for ASKing Dien,

Just "Information" isn't enough.
Directed Information would be better.

For instance;
Giving an idea of a service to provide someone else for a profit is good.
Providing the means (How to sell your service) along with the idea of a service to provide, is better...
Showing the way to find those to sell to along w/ the two just mentioned above, is the BEST...

There must be TRILLIONS of "money making ideas" available online.

The "ideas" are not enough.

There needs to be methods to profit from these 'ideas' such as, door to door, email, telemarketing, etc...
Even w/ the methods, there needs to be a source to profit from the method of selling. (Prospecting)

So, basically, what I'm saying is,
1. You need the Idea,
2. the method to marketing the idea, and
3. the source to market to (prospects)...

I would like to see more ideas on, for example,
"How to make $100 p/ month"
or
"How to make $100 p/ day"
[You get the idea]
w/ ideas, marketing, and prospecting combined...

Another thing that would be great would be to combine the above in an 'Ask [the Expert(s)] Anything" thread...

Such as:
Combining the "How to" idea w/ an individual's current skillset / abilities...
Ex. My Programming / Web Development Skills / Content Writing / (etc.,) how to market, how to find those hungry for what I do...
(just a sample for the idea... )

Or, for different 'Home Improvement" Niches, such as;
* Pressure Washing,
* painting (interior / exterior / etc... ) houses,
* window washing,
* landscaping / lawn care,
* pool maintenance,
* house cleaning,
* auto-detailing (cleaning),
* handyman services / home repair,
* pet sitting,
* dog waste removal / dog walking,
* errand running / grocery shopping,
* home (onsite) pc repair,

etc., etc., etc...

Just My input...

Thanks!

:D

Christopher

Very good input, thanks.
 

Thanks Christopher,

Dien may have his own take on this, but mine is..

The forum, by it's own limitations doesn't really allow more in depth coverage, which is why we have over the years provided several other avenues to get the "details" of many ideas out there.

Dien has published hundreds of detailed articles, including the 3 things you cited, in his HIDDEN BUSINESS newsletters and his books. Sure, there are all kinds of these idea things floating around, I used to get them all...

but most of them lacked in the MARKETING how to, which is what Dien added to his newsletters.

Where warranted, we have set up several sub forums and even private membership groups to give a place to exchange in depth information and how to type stuff. We've had blogs too. And, or course we've offered Specialty Reports as a way to get more in depth coverage too.

My opinion, is ASK the questions you want answered, and as often as not some member of the forum has the real life experience to give a battlefield experienced response.

You are right in noting, in most instances, there is a glossing over of the really important stuff, like HOW TO MARKET AND SELL.

Our 17 year archive is loaded with answers. But we are always open to new ideas and concepts, thanks.

Gordon

Re: What we're doing here at Sowpub... What's the goal...?
 

"Does anyone have any ideas... How can we get this information "out there" more effectively, to help more people learn how they can support themselves (and not be dependent on handouts)...?"

... Case studies!

Want to get folks involved and invested in the forum?

Show them that the ideas shared actually work. Throwing around ideas is one thing, putting them into action is another. Heck, you can even have a "idea to implement challenge" with forum members following a plan and tweaking it to success.

"So set 'em up, Joe....
 

...Make it one for my baby and one more for the road"

My experience shows that people are either going to do something or they are not.

While ideas are a dime a dozen, implementing an idea can make you rich.
Implementing, being the key. I find that too many people are searching for more ideas, when they should be about the businesses of DOING with the ideas they have.

Only through work/implementation, does an idea transform into a proven method.

I'm not a "reports" kind of guy. I'm more hands on.

Recently, I saw a women standing in front of a store holding a small sign stating that she had no gas and no food. She had a small gas container next to her.

I bought some fuel and groceries for her.

She sparked an idea.

I went over to Walmart, and bought a few of those insulated carrying cases Bud Riggs talked about in his headlight cleaning video. I'm going to buy the cleaning supplies and put some headlight cleaning kits together.

When I see a person who looks like they could use some help, I'm going to offer to teach them how to perform the service. I'll give them the kit. I'll even get them some jobs, to get them going.

Getting the jobs is the easy part. I could bury them in work!

My results for getting people to show up consistently, on time, ready to work and make some quick cash, is only so-so, at best. Tony Robbins gets people to pay him thousands of dollars, so that they can burn the hell out of their feet, walking across hot coals. I have a hard time getting them to show up, to put easy cash in their hands.

I don't get it.

Still, I'm not one to just give up on something and walk away. I like a challenge. If I get one person out of a hundred who benefits, that's ok. I'm content to put this out there into the universe and see what happens.

I'm not on forums much these days. It's a fantasy world, where dreamers dream about making a gazillion dollars, as they sit in front of a borrowed computer, in someone's basement. They have a sense of entitlement, expecting to be spoonfed ideas and viable methods, that others have worked hard to establish.

I'm cutting back on my online participation. Instead, I'll be spending more time out there in the real world, testing ideas, creating and working new programs, doing what I can, where I can, to make a difference.

I wish everyone here at Sowpub continued health and success.

May the power of the FUD be with you...always!

Ron Lafuddy

The Walter Mitty within, often takes over the daily actions which produce results.
 

Ron, you are right on, please don't disappear, not many real life guys left.

We all are Daydreamers. Unfortunately, most stay daydreamers, look no further than the Warrior Forum (or here) to see the people who have spent 5 years chasing a dream.

Harvey Brody called them "vicarious thrill seekers", they buy programs, books, courses, so they can say "I know that" But they don't KNOW the experience. You know what the milky water looks and feels like when you sandpaper a headlight, and there may be 101 who "know" what it looks like from watching the Boz's Video...

but probably one 1 in 100 know from DOING IT.

The daydreamer has rosy visions of his future, he imagines his life becoming his paradise, he becomes his own victim

of his HABITS. Created from his daily THOUGHTS.

He is also TARGET ONE of the Internet Marketing Gurus, the Biz-Op sellers, the guys (like me) who offer up some HOPE, with our ideas, and even with detailed instruction on the DOING...

all the while knowing Walter is going to fall back into his old habits, while time runs from his hourglass.

This has stuck a nerve with me, and I'm going to address this, probably later today, in more detail.

Suffice, for now... and Thanks Ron, for giving me an idea...Work Kits for the Homeless, Unemployed, and Penniless.

Fits in with teach a man to fish, even though he would rather sit on the shore eating bon bons and let us catch, clean and cook his dinner.

Gordon

The value of "sweat equity"...
 

Hi Ron,

You're right there...!

Even with an idea that works for someone, you may find you have to try a few twists and turns, in order to make it work for you...

I was testing a lead-generating idea a few weeks ago, and the cost per lead was pretty high...

However, after thinking about it a few days (and talking with a couple of smart people), I tried a different approach.

Compared to the old approach... the new approach cut the cost-per-lead by 80%!

Suddenly, an approach which was hard to make profitable because of the high cost of leads, is easier to make a profit with...

Perhaps with more work, I can get the cost-per-lead down even lower...

It takes some "sweat" to get things working, sometimes, and you have to think about alternative approaches. It can take some experience to realize how this works (it's taken me years)... ;)

Best wishes,

Dien