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Phil July 12, 2012 05:09 AM

Success Through Testing: Don’t Forget the Scientific Method...
 
You Snooze... You Lose! ...

Missed Opportunities for Those who Don't...

Some May Get the Message and Even TRY IT! ... ;)

Especially! ...

Principle 3: Predictions

The Scientific Method is taught in middle school and usually forgotten by those who don't pursue science -- but it can be used by marketers to make sure they're on the right track. Proper use of the Scientific Method involves devising tests that prove or disprove a hypotheses and predictions of performance, writes Ted Rooke...
http://searchenginewatch.com/article...entific-Method

Phil

sandalwood July 12, 2012 12:38 PM

Re: Success Through Testing: Don’t Forget the Scientific Method...
 
Phil,

I'm sure the scientific method had its place in time but today in America it really isn't necessary. The government has a Bureau of Education that tells teachers what to teach and how to teach. This scientific method conflicts with their teaching principles.

The government can't have kids growing up and thinking they might be responsible for themselves and learn they are the ones who make or break an economy. Food stamps, welfare, earned income credit for people who don't work, et al would disappear taking w/them about a million bureau_rats.

If you continue to post old fashioned out of date non compatible information like this thing called a scientific method, you will have to be banned and sent to a re-education camp. Kids learning to think, observe and conclude might just conclude the present welfare system isn't working and that sir will destroy America.

Ask the DNC where the camps are located. I'm told they have a directory.

Of course you can always do what smart Americans are doing, sit back say nothing and hope like hell they won't be noticed.

This is not a political rant or post in any way, shape or form. It is merely a plea to a distressed thinking sowpub member. Please enter the safe haven After all, it is for your own good.

Tom

Phil July 12, 2012 09:41 PM

Re: Success Through Testing: Don’t Forget the Scientific Method...
 
Tom,

Always appreciate and respect your comments...

But Wondering what [Exactly] you Are Reading and Where... :confused:

Missing most of the Message in my opinion...

Atleast with my Take on Things!

But that's OK...

Since the Resource, Opinions are Well respected and Uptodate...

To Each His Own... :D
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...ch%20his%20own

Phil

Glenn July 13, 2012 12:49 AM

Price Test - "FBI Truth Test-How to Catch a Liar in 60 Seconds"
 
Hi Phil,

I agree with Tom's rant.

That said.

Heres Why Scientific Testing of ONE Item at a time is important.

Here is one of my best selling E-books.

"FBI Truth Test-How to Catch a Liar in 60 Seconds"

An FBI Agent taught me How to TRUTH READ
anybody...

IN PERSON - face to face.
OVER The Phone too.

We SHOW You With Step by Step Case Studies - (Work, Home, kids The spouse, The Boss.)

How to use the SAME METHOD the Border Guards at Canada & Mexican border were taught by FBI to Catch Smugglers and screen 1000's of drivers a day.

I paid 5.00 at Fiverr.com to 4 people.

The idea to Run 300,000 Twitter/Facebook eyeballs past 2 different Websites.

A/B Split - SAME Headline and Sales letter.

ONE DIFFERENCE - THE PRICE.

A - is 99.97 -- http://goo.gl/lzVeE

B - is 7.00 -- http://www.nlpbrainbuzz.com/fbi/

GUESS Which Price out pulled the other by 300%?

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn

Phil July 13, 2012 05:32 AM

Re: Price Test - "FBI Truth Test-How to Catch a Liar in 60 Seconds"
 
Glenn,

Thanks for Explaining your Thoughts...

Always interesting to Say the Least...

Great Examples, Lessons...

Fiverr, Investing investments...

Make sure you Fill us in on the Rest of the Story...

Especially, The Final Tally after Spending A TOTAL OF $5.00 X 4... :)

If I HEARD RIGHT! ...

In Comparison to Earnings & Munny(S) coming In....

Quick Google BOT, for A Small Taste on your Fiverr Testing(S)...

Campaigns and Ideas, interesting Results most Likely! ...

As Per the URL $$ SIGNS & misc. Details...
http://www.google.com/search?q=A+-+i...1366&bih= 665

Phil

sandalwood July 13, 2012 10:06 AM

Re: Success Through Testing: Don’t Forget the Scientific Method...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 31369)
Tom,

Always appreciate and respect your comments...

But Wondering what [Exactly] you Are Reading and Where... :confused:

Missing most of the Message in my opinion...

Atleast with my Take on Things!

But that's OK...

Since the Resource, Opinions are Well respected and Uptodate...

To Each His Own... :D
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...ch%20his%20own

Phil


Phil,

Ranting about the poor state of the little thinkers we call kids. They can name every rapper out there but they can't name one chemical symbol or put a whole sentence together.

Confused, well don't be. The govt likes both you and them that way. More mandates are easier to pile on...

That's it...It was nothing personal. Just me babling.

Tom

Glenn July 13, 2012 10:51 AM

You Probably Guessed The Results - Phil
 
Thanks Phil,

The higher price out-performed the smaller price.

By 3 times.

Only a few days into the test - but still kind of startling.

Jay Abraham used to tell us over and over at his seminars
that one headline could out pull another by 7 times.

This is more than that.

But it's the price - instead of the headline.

Glenn

P.S. - IF anyone wants to promote their book to (I think it's more) than 85,000 people thru a book review - I found Susan on Fiverr.

Here's the link to her Fiverr Offers:

http://fiverr.com/writewords4you

P.P.S. - I used her Book Review article in an Ezine -

Here:

http://archive.enchantednlp.com/ezine.php?issueno=2327

sandalwood July 13, 2012 11:47 AM

Re: Success Through Testing: Don’t Forget the Scientific Method...
 
Glenn,

Thanks for:

P.S. - IF anyone wants to promote their book to (I think it's more) than 85,000 people thru a book review - I found Susan on Fiverr.

Here's the link to her Fiverr Offers:

http://fiverr.com/writewords4you

Tom

Dien Rice July 13, 2012 09:41 PM

Re: Price Test - "FBI Truth Test-How to Catch a Liar in 60 Seconds"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn (Post 31370)
I paid 5.00 at Fiverr.com to 4 people.

The idea to Run 300,000 Twitter/Facebook eyeballs past 2 different Websites.

A/B Split - SAME Headline and Sales letter.

ONE DIFFERENCE - THE PRICE.

A - is 99.97 -- http://goo.gl/lzVeE

B - is 7.00 -- http://www.nlpbrainbuzz.com/fbi/

GUESS Which Price out pulled the other by 300%?

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn

First, thanks Phil for pointing out the relationship between the scientific method and A/B split testing (which is just another form of testing a hypothesis)!

Glenn, thanks for sharing this example!

How did the people you paid from Fiverr run it by all those Facebook/Twitter followers? Were these people those who had a lot of Facebook friends and/or Twitter followers - who then put it on their own Facebook page or posted it on Twitter to their followers?

Best wishes,

Dien

Glenn July 14, 2012 12:43 AM

Good Question Dien
 
Thanks Dien,

I don't know the answer.

All I do is write the sales letter -

test it -

create the Product -

IF it sells...(I create it)

IF it doesn't - (I don't write or audiotape it)

This used to be a challenge. But now I Use my "Greased Pig Speed Writing System"

(Which allows me to Type a 100 page book in 2 or 3 days. Audiotape a 500 page book in 24 to 48 hrs.)

Which means I don't have to CREATE anything until AFTER it sells.

------------------------
(Here it is in case anyone wants to Speed Up Your Writing by 10 TIMES)

CHEAPER THAN A HAIRCUT...

Cuz I want to help fellow writers.

http://archive.enchantednlp.com/products.php?id=40

------------------------
The cool thing about fiver is these techies
put you in front of 50K to 100,000 of their "Followers" for 5 bucks.

Here's a Snapshot of PROOF of DELIVERY from one of these
guys and gals.

5190 hits in 2 days. Kind of amazing.

Glenn Osborn

Click for large view - Uploaded with Skitch


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