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Dien Rice March 24, 2012 09:18 PM

Why I'm crazy about THIS TV show...
 
I've been watching several episodes of this TV show lately... And it's great!

It's got drama, suspense... and you learn a lot of business lessons, too...

Here are some of the things I learned from the latest episode...

But first, I'm (of course) talking about...

Shark Tank!

Has anyone else here been watching it? You can watch some episodes online here (if you are in the USA) - http://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank/video

I watched a few episodes from the first season before. While the earlier seasons were good, I gotta say, with Mark Cuban there it's "entertainment value" has ramped up immensely (in my opinion). He's quite a character! (In a good sense.)

Here are some lessons I learned from the last episode (season 3, week 10)...

Universal lessons from a custom shoe store, doggy food, and motorcycle jackets businesses...

The first pitch was Nick, who had a store called "The Ave" on Venice Beach, as well as a website, where you could "customize" the design on your shoes (sneakers). You could stick your photo on it, a picture of your tattoo, any other picture on it you wanted.

He had modified some sort of industrial printer with a patented part, so it could print on shoes.

Nick's idea was to open up another, big, store, then franchise it out to many, many stores...

However, Daymond John had a good idea. He said, why not license the technology (since he has a proprietary product, with his modified printer part), so that other big clothing businesses can do this instead.

Nick, though, didn't really seem to want to listen...

The reason why I think Daymond's idea was great was because, it would cost next-to-nothing to implement (since he already owned the patent), and could start bringing in money immediately, and could potentially bring in lots of money, very fast.

In contrast, Nick's idea of rolling out stores is very capital-intensive, and so is much more risky. It would also be much, much slower.

Anyway, that was a great lesson I felt, from that pitch!

It's a pity Nick didn't listen, so didn't get any investment. If he's smart, he'll still use Daymond's idea anyway!

The second pitch was for "Barkems" - a kind of container for dog food when you walk your dog.

According to at least 4 out of the 5 sharks, this product suffered from a fatal flaw - which is, it solved a problem which doesn't exist. (One shark - Robert Herjavec - liked it, but wouldn't invest.)

They said, you can just put the dog food in a little bag, and carry it around that way. You don't need a special container.

That's the lesson here - don't waste your time and money solving a problem which doesn't really exist...

I'll skip the 3rd one (beer-flavored ice cream)... The main lesson with that one was to know your numbers. No matter what business you do, someone in your business needs to be able to know the numbers, and to do the math. They didn't know their numbers, which made them hard to invest in.

The 4th pitch was also interesting, with good lessons!

The business was "Go Go Gear" - which was about fashionable clothing with "armor" for protection in certain places, for motorcycle or motorized scooter riding.

It seemed to me like a good idea... Howver...

The sharks pointed out that there was nothing proprietary about it - that is, the basic idea (fashionable clothing with "armor") could be easily and legally copied.

Also... The two ladies pitching had spent $400,000 of their own money developing this. They had sold around $180,000 in sales in the last year. However, they had no profits.

How much did they want for an investment?

They wanted an investment of $300,000, for 15% of the company!

Now, the sharks kept saying that meant that they were valuing their company at $2 million dollars, a "crazy" valuation, given that it was only making $180,000 per year in sales, yet also had no profit!

You get the valuation by this reasoning... If 15% of the company is worth $300,000 (in their view), the the value of the WHOLE company is $300,000/0.15 = $2,000,000 = $2 million bucks!

The ladies didn't even seem to realize that they were valuing their company at $2 million dollars. (They blamed the sharks for that valuation - though it came straight from what they were asking for...)

I've invested in businesses before, and one of my brothers even more so (as he is in finance)... If you are asking for an investment, this is the first calculation any experienced investor will do.

If you are looking for an investment, an experienced investor will calculate what you are valuing your whole company at - then, given the other numbers (like sales, profits, assets, etc.), they will figure out whether that seems like a reasonable valuaton.

In the end, the two ladies kept changing their percentage they were willing to give away. They finally got a deal from Daymond, who put in $300,000 for 65% of their company (which valued their company at around $462,000 - a long way down from $2 million).

Anyway, I loved Shark Tank (I've seen all the Season 3 episodes now)...

I think you can learn a lot from it, and it's entertaining, too!

Has anyone else here been watching it? If so, what have you liked, or not liked? Any particular pitches - or sharks - who you like, or don't like?

(I gotta admit, I'm a fan of Mark Cuban...)

Best wishes,

Dien

P.S. If you are outside the USA, there are ways you can watch it too. PM me for info... You can also find some clips on YouTube...

SteveSki March 25, 2012 09:11 AM

Re: Why I'm crazy about THIS TV show...
 
Hi Dien, I'd like to watch Shark Tank. Please tell me how can I do that from Australia?

Thanks,
Steve

ThePromotionalGuy.com March 25, 2012 10:52 AM

Re: Why I'm crazy about THIS TV show...
 
Steve,

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveSki (Post 30380)
Hi Dien, I'd like to watch Shark Tank. Please tell me how can I do that from Australia?

Thanks,
Steve


Here you go: Shark Tank Episodes

Peace and Success to you

Dien Rice March 25, 2012 11:48 AM

Steve, I sent you a "PM"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveSki (Post 30380)
Hi Dien, I'd like to watch Shark Tank. Please tell me how can I do that from Australia?

Hi Steve,

I sent you a "PM"...

Best wishes, Dien

Duane Adolph March 25, 2012 04:51 PM

Re: Why I'm crazy about THIS TV show...
 
Hey Dien,

First Please send details about how you see it from Australia :->

While I still don't watch T.V regularly I would love to see these episodes more regularly.

Also Waaaaay back in 2006 I had posted about a different show but similar concept called Dragons Den.

There was an excellent thread which compliments what you are asking here. With lessons learned etc.

http://www.sowpub.com/forum/archive/...hp?t-1795.html

WOW! I just reread my own takeaways and lesson from my old post. Pertinent to this discussion as well.

http://www.sowpub.com/forum/archive/...-1795-p-4.html

Cheers

Duane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dien Rice (Post 30378)
I've been watching several episodes of this TV show lately... And it's great!

It's got drama, suspense... and you learn a lot of business lessons, too...

Here are some of the things I learned from the latest episode...

But first, I'm (of course) talking about...

Shark Tank!

Has anyone else here been watching it? You can watch some episodes online here (if you are in the USA) - http://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank/video

I watched a few episodes from the first season before. While the earlier seasons were good, I gotta say, with Mark Cuban there it's "entertainment value" has ramped up immensely (in my opinion). He's quite a character! (In a good sense.)

Here are some lessons I learned from the last episode (season 3, week 10)...

Universal lessons from a custom shoe store, doggy food, and motorcycle jackets businesses...

The first pitch was Nick, who had a store called "The Ave" on Venice Beach, as well as a website, where you could "customize" the design on your shoes (sneakers). You could stick your photo on it, a picture of your tattoo, any other picture on it you wanted.

He had modified some sort of industrial printer with a patented part, so it could print on shoes.

Nick's idea was to open up another, big, store, then franchise it out to many, many stores...

However, Daymond John had a good idea. He said, why not license the technology (since he has a proprietary product, with his modified printer part), so that other big clothing businesses can do this instead.

Nick, though, didn't really seem to want to listen...

The reason why I think Daymond's idea was great was because, it would cost next-to-nothing to implement (since he already owned the patent), and could start bringing in money immediately, and could potentially bring in lots of money, very fast.

In contrast, Nick's idea of rolling out stores is very capital-intensive, and so is much more risky. It would also be much, much slower.

Anyway, that was a great lesson I felt, from that pitch!

It's a pity Nick didn't listen, so didn't get any investment. If he's smart, he'll still use Daymond's idea anyway!

The second pitch was for "Barkems" - a kind of container for dog food when you walk your dog.

According to at least 4 out of the 5 sharks, this product suffered from a fatal flaw - which is, it solved a problem which doesn't exist. (One shark - Robert Herjavec - liked it, but wouldn't invest.)

They said, you can just put the dog food in a little bag, and carry it around that way. You don't need a special container.

That's the lesson here - don't waste your time and money solving a problem which doesn't really exist...

I'll skip the 3rd one (beer-flavored ice cream)... The main lesson with that one was to know your numbers. No matter what business you do, someone in your business needs to be able to know the numbers, and to do the math. They didn't know their numbers, which made them hard to invest in.

The 4th pitch was also interesting, with good lessons!

The business was "Go Go Gear" - which was about fashionable clothing with "armor" for protection in certain places, for motorcycle or motorized scooter riding.

It seemed to me like a good idea... Howver...

The sharks pointed out that there was nothing proprietary about it - that is, the basic idea (fashionable clothing with "armor") could be easily and legally copied.

Also... The two ladies pitching had spent $400,000 of their own money developing this. They had sold around $180,000 in sales in the last year. However, they had no profits.

How much did they want for an investment?

They wanted an investment of $300,000, for 15% of the company!

Now, the sharks kept saying that meant that they were valuing their company at $2 million dollars, a "crazy" valuation, given that it was only making $180,000 per year in sales, yet also had no profit!

You get the valuation by this reasoning... If 15% of the company is worth $300,000 (in their view), the the value of the WHOLE company is $300,000/0.15 = $2,000,000 = $2 million bucks!

The ladies didn't even seem to realize that they were valuing their company at $2 million dollars. (They blamed the sharks for that valuation - though it came straight from what they were asking for...)

I've invested in businesses before, and one of my brothers even more so (as he is in finance)... If you are asking for an investment, this is the first calculation any experienced investor will do.

If you are looking for an investment, an experienced investor will calculate what you are valuing your whole company at - then, given the other numbers (like sales, profits, assets, etc.), they will figure out whether that seems like a reasonable valuaton.

In the end, the two ladies kept changing their percentage they were willing to give away. They finally got a deal from Daymond, who put in $300,000 for 65% of their company (which valued their company at around $462,000 - a long way down from $2 million).

Anyway, I loved Shark Tank (I've seen all the Season 3 episodes now)...

I think you can learn a lot from it, and it's entertaining, too!

Has anyone else here been watching it? If so, what have you liked, or not liked? Any particular pitches - or sharks - who you like, or don't like?

(I gotta admit, I'm a fan of Mark Cuban...)

Best wishes,

Dien

P.S. If you are outside the USA, there are ways you can watch it too. PM me for info... You can also find some clips on YouTube...


Phil March 26, 2012 04:29 AM

The ''Unofficial'' Mark Cuban {Hotsheets} I Want To Draw a Cat For You! Shoelaces $$$
 
MARK CUBAN: If I Was A High School Student, Here's How I'd Make Money...
http://www.businessinsider.com/makin...ey-contributor

More [Cool] ''Spinnable'' Mark Cuban stuff some Might have missed...

A few Quick picks... Fan of Mark Cuban or Not! ...

Simple Cool ideas to Think about! Play around With, even Google for Some More...

Mark Cuban and Company, Even, if You're Not a Fan like Dien and a few others around Here! ...

Lots of Untapped ideas... Just Waiting to be Be Activated! ... The ''Unofficial'' Mark Cuban Hotsheets... Mark Cuban Fan related web concepts...

Just as Most Celebrity Fan sites are Usually Legally Fine...

Who Knows? If you Try Connecting, Chatting up with some Cool business ideas, concepts, with Mark Cuban Communications, You just Never Know what Might Happen... ;)

Could Even be Participating on SowPubs in the Near Future...

Dont Follow Your Passion, Follow Your Effort...
https://www.google.com/search?q=Dont...1525& bih=743

Must Watch! ... Each Video... Listen very CareFully! Start Brainstorming... Outsourcing, even If you Can't Do a Nice little Re-workable Project of your Own that's A Fresh New Different kinda idea... Theme as per the Cool little Hints in the Video's! ...

He Wants to Draw a Cat for You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvNKQzvzFd0

Mark Cuban discusses I Want To Draw a Cat For You!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7yunf0vams

Mark Cuban -- His 'Shark Tank' Investment Is The Cat's Meow! | TMZ ...
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/01/mark-c.../#.T3AU19mfjq8

Mark Cuban's Money Making Ideas...
https://www.google.com/search?q=mark...ient=firefox-a

Mark Cuban is using Google+. Join Google+ to connect with the people who matter most...
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Mark+...ient=firefox-a
https://plus.google.com/106318111152683661692/posts

All the best...

Phil

Dien Rice March 26, 2012 06:15 AM

Duane, I sent you a "PM"...
 
Hi Duane,

I sent you a "PM" on this...

Best wishes, Dien

SteveSki March 26, 2012 09:57 AM

Re: Thanks Dien...DNO
 
Thanks Dien, I appreciate the tip.

Cheers,
Steve

Duane Adolph March 26, 2012 11:48 AM

Re: Duane, I sent you a "PM"...
 
Thanks Dien....I'll "give it a go" :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dien Rice (Post 30395)
Hi Duane,

I sent you a "PM" on this...

Best wishes, Dien


Bigmack March 26, 2012 01:59 PM

Re: Why I'm crazy about THIS TV show...
 
Dien, my wife and I love that show. One of the things we picked up was how many times the sharks will invest if they like the person. Of course the numbers have to be right, but they are also looking at, "do I want to partner with this person". If they don't like the person and they like the product or idea and the numbers are right, they try to buy them out. I remember one where they said to the guy, I think it was, I don't want to be your partner, I'll give you a check for the whole thing and you go away.
Another important thing they always look at is, can this be scaled up easily.
Many very good lessons to be learned watching that show. And you're right about Mark Cuban, he really makes it interesting. I love it when he says, I want an answer right now or no deal.
The final thing I really like is when one of the people pitching their idea actually say what they are really there for is to partner with one of the sharks, because really the money is secondary, it is the partnership with the shark that is the real value.

Mack


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