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bobmcalister May 8, 2007 05:28 PM

achieving world piece ...
 
stumbled across this at
http://www.probablefuture.com

and thought it ......well ....just read if you have the time



A simple thought on Truth.

If you can start the day without caffeine,
if you can get along without pep pills,
if you can always be cheerful, ignoring aches and pains,
If you can get excited and cheerful when seeing you loved ones after a small absence, as if it were the very first time you set eyes upon them in ages,
If your love for man does not erode with habit and time but always remain steadfastly the same, no matter how little or bad attention you are getting,
If you can accept verbal and physical abuse without automatic resentment, desire for revenge, and the need to show your inborn physical power and ability to inflict harm.
If you do not need to be proven "right" and others "wrong."
if you can resist complaining and boring people with your troubles,
if you can eat the same food every day and be grateful for it,
if you can understand when your loved ones are too busy to give you any time,
if you can overlook it when those you loved ones take it out on you when, through no fault of yours, something goes wrong,
if you can take criticism and blame without resentment,
if you can ignore a friend's limited education and never correct him,
if you can resist treating a rich friend better than a poor friend,
If you cannot stand fear-thoughts addressed at you by others, and only relate to love,
If you only read the intention and heart of man and not his external appearance,
if you can face the world without lies and deceit, always expressing your true feelings,
If you can always jump and get excited at the fragrance, beauty and eternal energy bestowed by the natural world,
If you would even forgo your life away without a moment of doubt in the name of Love,
If you realize that you are here to protect and guard the integrity and security of all your extended family,
If you accept death and dying as a natural cycle of Eternity,
if you can conquer tension without medical help,
if you can relax without liquor,
if you can sleep without the aid of drugs,
if you can honestly say that deep in your heart you have no prejudice against creed, color, religion or politics,
Then my dear friends you will have approached the level of spiritual development of your dog.

i.e. Why G.o.d. made a mirror image as D.o.g. to show us and express holographically in simple terms, as our best friend, what unconditional Love IS and should be. Or why A-dam's civilization should not continue making a mirror reversed image of Himself as A-mad world.

The Dog is wonderful, really in service, and Godly. It is a manifestation

MichaelRoss May 9, 2007 02:38 AM

World peace is impossible
 
Let's all be like Dogs then...

Lick our butts and balls. Take a dump anywhere. Roll in goodness knows what. Be unable to pass on our thoughts or experiences. Be unable to Create anything. Be unable to even utter our own names. And just live without any thought of our own existence or of tomorrow. And run around in the bush trying to catch our food. Rape the female of the species when its that time. And so on and so forth.

Uh hum. Truly noble... NOT.

I PROUDLY have Prejudices. If I did not I would treat a child molesting murderous serial killer the same as an Honest couldn't-hurt-a-fly citizen. I would gladly accept any aim that turns me into a sacrifical animal to Support the needy hordes. I would be... brain dead. Incapable of Logical thought or Reason - the very thing that makes us Above the other Animals on the planet.

Of course, if you or anyone else wants to be dog-like, then go right ahead. Just don't crap in my yard HA!

Michael Ross

bobmcalister May 9, 2007 11:13 AM

Re: World peace is impossible
 
goodness ...

seems to have stepped on your toes..or something.

point is that the efforts many people make to seek the peace within the world is really within themselves ?

and

your prejuidices, I would rate as choices.

and , I believe that the majority of people are asleep at the wheel ...and need the waking up that some different approach may give them.

MMacGillivray May 9, 2007 12:35 PM

Achieving world peace ... doubly impossible
 
... I'm afraid the survival of the strongest and elimination of the weakest in society means there's a built-in need to fight. While I would love it if there were no wars, I truly believe that this is a hope too far. Evolution is to blame.

Margaret

Ankesh May 10, 2007 01:00 AM

Re: Achieving world peace ... doubly impossible
 
I'm an optimist. And think that world peace is possible.

The solution lies in the Robbers Cave Experiment.
http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/psych...xperiment.html

Phil May 10, 2007 03:14 AM

Re: Achieving world peace ... doubly impossible
 
Please don't Attack... :)

But Unfortunately... Too many religions and People wanting Power is the real Problem and cause of War(s)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

If they would all Drop their Personal agendas...

And Work at Finding Solutions while Respecting others...

We Might just see World Peace one Day... ;)

Hopefully!

Phil

MichaelRoss May 10, 2007 03:19 AM

World Peace is a Pipe Dream. Just a Tool of Control.
 
Ankesh,

Thanks for linking to the Robber's Cave.

World Peace is NOT possible, nor should it be a Wish of anyone.

I'll get back to that, but first The Robber's Cave.

While the groups did Kind of Merge in the end, it required a Constant Problem to bring them together. In their case it was Real.

We have this same thing going on now. Countries, such as the USA, use a whole bunch of Imaginary Hobgoblins to Bring the country together. From non-existent HIV/AIDS and SARS to War On <s>Action</s> Terror and other Phoney stuff.

Political parties cement their Side by Blaming the other side, or those who came before. Blah blah blah.

When situations Constantly change, and over a period of time, those groups of boys Would have segmented again. And a more rigid Heirarchy would have appear. Some boys would have become Bullys.

And this is why World Peace is NOT possible. Because there are those who think it is fine and dandy to Take, Steal, Rob and Coerce members of their own country and entire other countries, for their own gains.

Your Saddams, Mugabes, Hitlers, et al, are Prime examples of this. Of living off of the efforts of others. As long as That exists, then World Peace is NOT possible. And as ALL "democratic" government works this way, then as long as there are "democratic" governments - or socialist or communist - World peace is not possible.

Why should World Peace NOT be wished for? Because it becomes a wish to control other people instead of leaving them be.

By wanting World Peace you are wanting all those who do Not want world peace, to change to suit you.

This world is the sum of its inhabitants. The mindless mind. A world Not in peace is the result.

If you want world peace, then Create your own world with Global Peace as its main principle. But don't wish to Force it onto others.

Michael Ross

MichaelRoss May 10, 2007 03:44 AM

Nail Head Hitting
 
Phil,

Thanks for hitting the nail on the head.

World Peace is not possible as long as some want to control others for their own benefit.

Segue: Lord of The Rings is a story about Power and its ability to Corrupt. Rewatch it with That in mind and you'll see the movie in a different light.

Michael Ross

Ankesh May 10, 2007 03:55 AM

Re: World Peace is a Pipe Dream. Just a Tool of Control.
 
The control arguement is a flawed argument. It falls back on itself. You are trying to control my thoughts and actions by telling me that I shouldn't wish for world peace because its a wish to control others who don't want world peace. You've just gone one level deeper. (Hope thats not tooo confusing...)

Control is always going to be there - as long as you have any sort of power.

There can be no vaccum where interaction takes place. When people interact - the by-product is power.

The question is: how to channel that power / control.

jasperhobbs May 10, 2007 08:33 AM

Re: World Peace is a Pipe Dream. Just a Tool of Control.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRoss (Post 15311)
Ankesh,

We have this same thing going on now. Countries, such as the USA, use a whole bunch of Imaginary Hobgoblins to Bring the country together. From non-existent HIV/AIDS and SARS to War On <s>Action</s> Terror and other Phoney stuff.
Michael Ross


AIDS SARS and war on terror are very REAL


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