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Dien Rice July 13, 2008 09:13 PM

How To Profit From Whoever Becomes President
 
This post might be a little controversial... Time will tell how it all turns out!

I think, by looking at a powerful person's own special interests, you can probably predict how that person will try to influence companies and markets...

That suggests by looking at John McCain's and Barack Obama's own special interests, we might be able to get a "peek" at how either person might influence markets and companies as part of his presidency...

Here's what we could have done regarding the Bush presidency. (Of course, it's all easier with the benefit of hindsight!)

Dick Cheney is former CEO of Halliburton. But, even more importantly, Cheney owns millions of dollars worth of stock options in Halliburton.

On this page, you can see a chart on the amazing rise in the worth of Dick Cheney's stock options. (He sold some of them and gave the money to charity, but I understand he still holds millions of dollars worth of Halliburton stock options.)

Halliburton's share price has increased around five-fold since the Iraq war started. Here you can see a chart of Halliburton's (HAL) stock price.

Knowing what we know now, we could have predicted that - since it's in Cheney's interests for Halliburton to make a lot of money (because of his stock options), he would, possibly subconsciously, use his powerful influence to make sure they make a lot of money. Which, you could argue, is what happened - with the war and with the government no-bid contracts for Halliburton, and for their former subsidiary, KBR, to supply war-support services.

Regarding George W. Bush, himself and his family have in the past had strong ties to the oil industry. Of course, the oil companies are the ones currently reaping huge profits from the sky-high oil prices. Perhaps there is a connection there as well (though I haven't looked into this one too deeply yet).

Anyone who had invested in oil companies at the beginning of the Bush presidency would have made a huge profit from those as well. For example, the stock price of Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM) has about tripled since the start of the Bush presidency.

Now, how can we use any knowledge we have regarding the incoming president to look at what might increase in value?

If John McCain wins the election, the main company to look at is Hensley & Co. John McCain's wife, their children, and John's son from his earlier marriage, Andrew McCain, together own 68% of Hensley & Co.

I predict that, possibly subconsciously, John McCain will try to influence government to work for the benefit of Hensley & Co. - because that will ultimately be to his own benefit, and the benefit of his family.

Unfortunately for us, Hensley & Co. is a privately held company, so we can't buy shares in it. If you could, that's probably what I would look at doing, if John McCain gets elected.

However, Hensley & Co. is an exclusive distributor for Anheuser-Busch, the makers of Budweiser beer. Anheuser-Busch is a publically listed company - you can buy shares in it. So, it's possible that what benefits Hensley & Co. might also benefit Anheuser-Busch. So buying shares in Anheuser-Busch might be a way you could benefit as well.

How about Obama? His corporate interests are a bit harder to figure out...

The closest I can come up with so far is that the finance industry seems to have a lot of support for him... I suspect it may be because they believe they will benefit from an Obama presidency. More about that here - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=92337754 .

So - and this is very speculative - you might be able to benefit from an Obama presidency by investing in finance stocks.

This whole approach might sound very cynical to some people - but I try to be a realist... I believe that the drive towards self-interest is a very powerful force. I think you can bet on it happening more often than bet against it... So why not look deeper into it, and profit from it? Even if you disagree, I think it's good "food for thought"!

Please note that none of this is financial or investing advice. I am not a finance professional, and for financial advice, please seek a professional.

- Dien

Garth July 14, 2008 12:28 AM

Re: How To Profit Whoever Becomes President
 
Thanks Dien.

Intersting and probably all true.

I would say you're way too kind in Cheney's case.
He made a conscious effort to boost his stock.

Also there are already people making money off the candidates.

For instance i've read that some of Obama's wife fashion choices
have spurred sales for previously obscure designers.

Phil July 14, 2008 06:02 AM

Re: How To Profit From Whoever Becomes President
 
Dien,

Excellent perspective on things...

Apply social networking “like interests” including with marketing, trends and ideas...

Including Barak Obama's Smart Marketing campaigns and you'll get an interesting bunch of ideas... ;)

Some Quick info and research to...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/contemplate

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...eInvestor.aspx
http://opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDsumma...9638&year=2005

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...l+ networking
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie...=1&sa=N&tab=wn

Obama sits on gold mine: "gigantic" donor database
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...amalist29.html
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/
http://www.miamifly.net/interactive/campaign/

http://www.anobamaminute.com/
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

Phil

LindaC July 14, 2008 11:51 AM

Re: How To Profit From Whoever Becomes President
 
Hi Dien,

Recent Press Release:

InBev and Anheuser-Busch Agree to Combine, Creating the Global Leader in Beer with Budweiser as its Flagship Brand.

InBev and Anheuser-Busch have announced an agreement to combine the two companies, forming the world’s leading global brewer. Anheuser-Busch shareholders will receive $70 per share in cash, for an aggregate equity value of $52 billion, in an industry-transforming transaction.

InBev is a Belgiun company.

My Best 2 U,

LindaC

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Originally Posted by Dien Rice (Post 21768)
This post might be a little controversial... Time will tell how it all turns out!

I think, by looking at a powerful person's own special interests, you can probably predict how that person will try to influence companies and markets...

That suggests by looking at John McCain's and Barack Obama's own special interests, we might be able to get a "peek" at how either person might influence markets and companies as part of his presidency...

Here's what we could have done regarding the Bush presidency. (Of course, it's all easier with the benefit of hindsight!)

Dick Cheney is former CEO of Halliburton. But, even more importantly, Cheney owns millions of dollars worth of stock options in Halliburton.

On this page, you can see a chart on the amazing rise in the worth of Dick Cheney's stock options. (He sold some of them and gave the money to charity, but I understand he still holds millions of dollars worth of Halliburton stock options.)

Halliburton's share price has increased around five-fold since the Iraq war started. Here you can see a chart of Halliburton's (HAL) stock price.

Knowing what we know now, we could have predicted that - since it's in Cheney's interests for Halliburton to make a lot of money (because of his stock options), he would, possibly subconsciously, use his powerful influence to make sure they make a lot of money. Which, you could argue, is what happened - with the war and with the government no-bid contracts for Halliburton, and for their former subsidiary, KBR, to supply war-support services.

Regarding George W. Bush, himself and his family have in the past had strong ties to the oil industry. Of course, the oil companies are the ones currently reaping huge profits from the sky-high oil prices. Perhaps there is a connection there as well (though I haven't looked into this one too deeply yet).

Anyone who had invested in oil companies at the beginning of the Bush presidency would have made a huge profit from those as well. For example, the stock price of Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM) has about tripled since the start of the Bush presidency.

Now, how can we use any knowledge we have regarding the incoming president to look at what might increase in value?

If John McCain wins the election, the main company to look at is Hensley & Co. John McCain's wife, their children, and John's son from his earlier marriage, Andrew McCain, together own 68% of Hensley & Co.

I predict that, possibly subconsciously, John McCain will try to influence government to work for the benefit of Hensley & Co. - because that will ultimately be to his own benefit, and the benefit of his family.

Unfortunately for us, Hensley & Co. is a privately held company, so we can't buy shares in it. If you could, that's probably what I would look at doing, if John McCain gets elected.

However, Hensley & Co. is an exclusive distributor for Anheuser-Busch, the makers of Budweiser beer. Anheuser-Busch is a publically listed company - you can buy shares in it. So, it's possible that what benefits Hensley & Co. might also benefit Anheuser-Busch. So buying shares in Anheuser-Busch might be a way you could benefit as well.

How about Obama? His corporate interests are a bit harder to figure out...

The closest I can come up with so far is that the finance industry seems to have a lot of support for him... I suspect it may be because they believe they will benefit from an Obama presidency. More about that here - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=92337754 .

So - and this is very speculative - you might be able to benefit from an Obama presidency by investing in finance stocks.

This whole approach might sound very cynical to some people - but I try to be a realist... I believe that the drive towards self-interest is a very powerful force. I think you can bet on it happening more often than bet against it... So why not look deeper into it, and profit from it? Even if you disagree, I think it's good "food for thought"!

Please note that none of this is financial or investing advice. I am not a finance professional, and for financial advice, please seek a professional.

- Dien



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