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Rick October 13, 2019 11:42 PM

What Do You Think of Giveaways and Summits?
 
I'm in Sean Mize's lifetime coaching program. Lately, he's been teaching that giveaways and summits can drive massive traffic. He suggests getting participants from LinkedIn or FB. Then those people would email their lists to promote the event.

What are your thoughts?

Rick

GordonJ October 14, 2019 10:13 AM

What will you give away?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 40261)
I'm in Sean Mize's lifetime coaching program. Lately, he's been teaching that giveaways and summits can drive massive traffic. He suggests getting participants from LinkedIn or FB. Then those people would email their lists to promote the event.

What are your thoughts?

Rick


I don't know what a summit is, could you explain? And what are you giving away? How does it apply to what you are doing? Participants? Are they in your target market? Do their email lists fit your prospect criteria?

Gordon

Rick October 18, 2019 11:37 PM

Re: What will you give away?
 
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Originally Posted by GordonJ (Post 40263)
I don't know what a summit is, could you explain? And what are you giving away? How does it apply to what you are doing? Participants? Are they in your target market? Do their email lists fit your prospect criteria?

Gordon


A summit is one of those deals where the organizer brings together X number of people as speakers. Each person typically speaks once. You may have multiple speakers each day.

The live sessions are most often free. The summit will last seven to ten days. Once it's over, if a person wants to view the recordings they pay $Y price. This is the most typical format. To gain access the participant has to opt-in.

With a giveaway, the organizer assembles X number of contributors. Each of them provide their giveaway item. Again, to participate, people have to opt-in. The organizer gets the email addresses of all subscribers. The contributors get the email addresses of only those people who opt-in for their item.

In both cases, there would be a theme such as a weight loss summit (yes - it's a thing - I checked) or a health giveaway. I'm not thinking of joining any giveaways or summits right now. Just exploring options for now.

Rick

Rick October 19, 2019 12:05 AM

Re: What will you give away?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 40271)
A summit is one of those deals where the organizer brings together X number of people as speakers. Each person typically speaks once. You may have multiple speakers each day.

The live sessions are most often free. The summit will last seven to ten days. Once it's over, if a person wants to view the recordings they pay $Y price. This is the most typical format. To gain access the participant has to opt-in.

With a giveaway, the organizer assembles X number of contributors. Each of them provide their giveaway item. Again, to participate, people have to opt-in. The organizer gets the email addresses of all subscribers. The contributors get the email addresses of only those people who opt-in for their item.

In both cases, there would be a theme such as a weight loss summit (yes - it's a thing - I checked) or a health giveaway. I'm not thinking of joining any giveaways or summits right now. Just exploring options for now.

Rick


Reading another thread, I thought of something. The organizer is such events is the person in the toll position.

Rick

GordonJ October 19, 2019 11:08 AM

OK thanks Rick, I avoid summits.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 40271)
A summit is one of those deals where the organizer brings together X number of people as speakers. Each person typically speaks once. You may have multiple speakers each day.

The live sessions are most often free. The summit will last seven to ten days. Once it's over, if a person wants to view the recordings they pay $Y price. This is the most typical format. To gain access the participant has to opt-in.

With a giveaway, the organizer assembles X number of contributors. Each of them provide their giveaway item. Again, to participate, people have to opt-in. The organizer gets the email addresses of all subscribers. The contributors get the email addresses of only those people who opt-in for their item.

In both cases, there would be a theme such as a weight loss summit (yes - it's a thing - I checked) or a health giveaway. I'm not thinking of joining any giveaways or summits right now. Just exploring options for now.

Rick


I think over a decade since I've attended an event, maybe longer. And I don't see myself going to one any time soon. Many years ago, I did an informal, unscientific study into people who went to Tony Robbins events. Some spending several thousand to walk on coals and jump off poles. Again, very UNscientific but anecdotally, none had made an income improvement, and few said they were better off overall, but ALL said they benefited from it.

I think people have a great power, to fool themselves into thinking that going to events, paying money for courses, joining groups, and networking is in some way beneficial to their bottom line. I've found over the years, dang few of event attendees ever get around to applying what they learned, or bought at these things.

Actually, fooling ourselves into believing what we bought, and never using it was enough. I think this to be a universal deception we do to ourselves.

The knowing is as far from the doing as one can get, albeit, it somehow convinces us we are (like objects in the rear view mirror) closer than they are.

Gordon

Rick October 20, 2019 10:41 PM

Re: OK thanks Rick, I avoid summits.
 
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Originally Posted by GordonJ (Post 40275)
I think over a decade since I've attended an event, maybe longer. And I don't see myself going to one any time soon. Many years ago, I did an informal, unscientific study into people who went to Tony Robbins events. Some spending several thousand to walk on coals and jump off poles. Again, very UNscientific but anecdotally, none had made an income improvement, and few said they were better off overall, but ALL said they benefited from it.

I think people have a great power, to fool themselves into thinking that going to events, paying money for courses, joining groups, and networking is in some way beneficial to their bottom line. I've found over the years, dang few of event attendees ever get around to applying what they learned, or bought at these things.

Actually, fooling ourselves into believing what we bought, and never using it was enough. I think this to be a universal deception we do to ourselves.

The knowing is as far from the doing as one can get, albeit, it somehow convinces us we are (like objects in the rear view mirror) closer than they are.

Gordon


I don't seem to be doing a very good job of explaining. These are online events. These aren't seminars like a Tony Robbins event. I'll dig out some examples later.

Rick

Rick October 20, 2019 10:57 PM

Re: OK thanks Rick, I avoid summits.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 40277)
I don't seem to be doing a very good job of explaining. These are online events. These aren't seminars like a Tony Robbins event. I'll dig out some examples later.

Rick


Here are two examples. In the first one, they're charging an entrance fee. Many don't. Entrance is typically free after you opt-in but the sessions are often only available on the day they're live. If you want recordings you usually have to pay for them. I like the second example better.

https://weightloss-summit.com/
http://fatlosssummit.com/

Rick

GordonJ October 21, 2019 09:55 AM

THANKS Rick, the second link, the fat loss summit took place in Aug. So is it still
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick (Post 40278)
Here are two examples. In the first one, they're charging an entrance fee. Many don't. Entrance is typically free after you opt-in but the sessions are often only available on the day they're live. If you want recordings you usually have to pay for them. I like the second example better.

https://weightloss-summit.com/
http://fatlosssummit.com/

Rick


Is the fatlosssummit still available? Do they make videos and post them up, or is it only a one time thing live?

Most similar IM events, have those individual presentations available on video and get close to the same price as the original. Well, the links still showed me a basic pitch fest, if not actually selling anything there, the presenters use the event to get recognized as an authority.

But, see, I don't get any of it.

Weight loss. It is simple (albeit not easy). Consume fewer calories and burn more.

Making money. Have more and better transactions.

Authenticity and life meaning. Do unto others as you want them to do on you.


I looked at both of those summits. The Dr. who was at both, uses his appearance on Dr. OZ (the master fraud) for his cred.

It is time to cash in I guess on the herds of the asleep masses. Thanks for showing me how.

Gordon

Rick October 22, 2019 10:24 PM

Re: THANKS Rick, the second link, the fat loss summit took place in Aug. So is it still
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonJ (Post 40279)
Is the fatlosssummit still available? Do they make videos and post them up, or is it only a one time thing live?

Most similar IM events, have those individual presentations available on video and get close to the same price as the original. Well, the links still showed me a basic pitch fest, if not actually selling anything there, the presenters use the event to get recognized as an authority.

But, see, I don't get any of it.

Weight loss. It is simple (albeit not easy). Consume fewer calories and burn more.

Making money. Have more and better transactions.

Authenticity and life meaning. Do unto others as you want them to do on you.


I looked at both of those summits. The Dr. who was at both, uses his appearance on Dr. OZ (the master fraud) for his cred.

It is time to cash in I guess on the herds of the asleep masses. Thanks for showing me how.

Gordon


Neither of those summits are still available. Typically, if you want the videos after the summit, you have to pay for them.

The contributors and organizers most definitely use these events to build credibility.

I've been watching a video series on how to organize a giveaway. The guy has given fantastic information with examples. I'm thinking seriously of organizing one once I get the site done.

Rick


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