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Joetrevison March 28, 2008 09:16 AM

A rude awaking
 
Most of you know I sale public domain books that you can not find anywhere for a low price. However I know of one the greates ads their ever was, it lasted 40 years. "Do You Make These Mistakes In English"

I found a copy of the book written in 1903 it is not really the kind of English books in todays world. It is not one that I would ever sale. It is that bad. Can you believe that? It is true! A great ad had such a book. My daughter who teaches English etc. Said books from that time were not like today. And she is right. I also have a public domain book by the Great Economist John Maynard K. on statistics which is by today's standard terrible too. Statistics is much easier with Excel in today's world.

GordonJ March 28, 2008 09:49 AM

The credit goes to the copy, HOWEVER, consider the timing...
 
World War ONE, the war to end all wars just ended.

During the next two decades MILLIONS of immigrants found their way to the United States.

Back then, there was a "sign" of becoming an American; the use of the English language.

These new Americans wanted their children and grand children to be U.S. citizens, and in many homes the native tongue was replaced by American English.

So you have MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who don't want to make 'these' mistakes in English. I'll give the copywriter his due, it is a great ad...but the timing was there also.

The media to deliver the ad was present as never before in history.

The market was huge. Testing showed (apparently) that the addition of the word "THESE" in the ad turned it into a winner.

Timing is hardly ever discussed in copywriting circles, many copywriters are ego centric and truly believe it was their genius that produced the results...and in some cases that may be true. But, just as likely, in many other cases, the TIMING was there too.

gjabiz

PS. Joe, do you see the little check mark in the upper right hand corner with ABC above it on the posting page? I advise you, AGAIN, to start using it before you post, OK?

Dien Rice March 28, 2008 05:37 PM

Thanks for that info which you generally CAN'T find anywhere (else)...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GordonJ (Post 19889)
World War ONE, the war to end all wars just ended.

During the next two decades MILLIONS of immigrants found their way to the United States.

Back then, there was a "sign" of becoming an American; the use of the English language.

These new Americans wanted their children and grand children to be U.S. citizens, and in many homes the native tongue was replaced by American English.

So you have MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people who don't want to make 'these' mistakes in English. I'll give the copywriter his due, it is a great ad...but the timing was there also.

The media to deliver the ad was present as never before in history.

The market was huge. Testing showed (apparently) that the addition of the word "THESE" in the ad turned it into a winner.

Timing is hardly ever discussed in copywriting circles, many copywriters are ego centric and truly believe it was their genius that produced the results...and in some cases that may be true. But, just as likely, in many other cases, the TIMING was there too.

Hi Gordon,

Thanks - I think this is a BRILLIANT insight!

And I've never seen this discussed in the context of the "Do You Make These Mistakes In English" ad...

As you point out, it makes sense that a "tsunami" of demand for this type of product was certainly a big part of its success!

It reminds me of your own product, "Remote Influence" - and your formula,

"E of A = H of R SoM + P0I"

"The Effectiveness of your Attempt to influence someone
remotely is equal to the Harmony between the
Recipient’s State of Mind and the Pre-Occupational
Interrupter used to gain attention."

When people are "preoccupied" (as they would have been with learning English), the right approach can create powerful influence (and of course, is very good for marketing)...

Thanks Gordon for that insight. It's truly something you don't get in the various books!

- Dien


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