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MichaelRoss October 18, 2008 01:58 AM

Leftist Australian Govt To Filter Internet, Just Like Communist China Does
 
Damn, damn and double damn.

The Australian Govt is going to turn Big Brother and filter the internet just like China does. Funny how the lefty Aussie leader happens to speak fluent Chinese.

There will be two blacklists. And our Choice is which one of those lists we will have applied to our internet feed (not whether we want to filter through a list or not, but which one).

One list will be for content appropriate for children. The other will be for adults BUT will filter out Illegal Content. And that Illegal Content will be decided by the govt. And can be added to at any time.

If they feel euthanasia is illegal, forget about finding out about it. If they deem info on terrorism is illegal, then whoops, no feed with those words in it. Silencers on firearms are illegal - no info on those. Automatic firearms are illegal to the public... no info on them. X rated stuff is illegal, online, so none of that.

In time... what they deem as Hate Speech could be filtered. After all, it is Illegal.

Some countries already filter Nazi stuff. So forget about researching WWII.

I don't care the feelgood reason behind it - for the children - because once you create a Blacklist of things to filter out, it's easy to add to that list. It's just Big Brother. Another Freedom taken away.

Oh... the Australian mainstream media has said nothing about this, at the moment. Interesting. Another... leak a bit to garner reaction thing?

http://www.infoworld.com/news/feeds/...html?source=gs

Michael Ross

Ankesh October 18, 2008 04:25 AM

Re: Leftist Australian Govt To Filter Internet, Just Like Communist China Does
 
That sucks.

Michael - look into creating proxies. I know a few folks who make some very good money running proxy websites.

The proxy market in Australia is going to boom. Could be an opportunity.

Phil October 18, 2008 05:22 AM

Re: Leftist Australian Govt To Filter Internet, Just Like Communist China Does
 
Michael,

Thanks for bringing up the topic. In reference to business...

Like with most Government decisions whether good or bad, it always seems to takes them years and years to put things into place. Who knows if and when it will really ever happen and even if and when it does, Smart businesses and entrepreneurs in China are doing just fine! There's definitely lots of negative talk about the topic But those taking a positive outlook on things are doing just fine...

Just about a year has passed already...
Australia Joins China In Censoring The Internet
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/30.../all-comments/

A couple Quick examples regarding Smart prospering businesses & websites in China...
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...1018bus16.html
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&cl...nG=Search+News

In case some don't know, Alibaba is one of the Biggest resources that most/many ebayers use world-wide to get their wholesale goods from...

On the mention of Australia and since SowPubs is all about business and making money... :)

Here's a few Good little niches and investments to keep an eye on... Some interesting info and opportunities... ;)

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1003...-for-investors
http://www.moneymanagement.com.au/Ar...et/428178.aspx
http://www.hutchens.com.au/concrete/
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/Premi...ng-online.html

Just my usual take on things...

Phil

MichaelRoss October 18, 2008 04:03 PM

This is their 3rd attempt at filtering Aussie Internet. It WILL be coming...
 
Phil,

Thanks for looking for silver linings.

The filtering of Aust internet has been going on for longer than these articles suggest.

The first attempt was by our previous leader "anti gun Johnny", or Teflon Johnny as he was also know because nothing stuck to him. It was to be ISP Based filtering. No opt out. No choice of lists. Total filtering. BUT, they couldn't get it to work properly. A search for terms such as Breast Cancer gave no results as they were blocked because of the word Breast.

Instead, he decided the govt would make filtering software - Net Nanny, Cyber Patrol, that kind of thing - available for FREE to any parents, groups, schools, etc., that wanted them. It was a costly exercise that resulted in not too many downloads and even fewer installations and uses - how they know someone was using it is what bothers me.

This alone should indicate to the govt - regardless of political affiliation - how the Aust people view such censorship. And they should leave the filtering up to the parents. There is plenty of software available for the parents to use.

So it's not going to be a question of IF. But WHEN. Poster Boy Rudd - our current leader - has already switched tact. His intentions prior to the election were NOT widely reported by the Mainstream Media. And this has also Not been reported. He gets no opposition from the Opposition Party as they had tried to implement it previously.

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Ankesh,

Thanks for suggesting proxies.

Alas, such options are not as available as you may think. Because ISPs here make it so you cannot surf via a proxy. AND, you need to initially go through their gear to start with as it's all propriatary.

For instance. IINET - Aust biggest ISP - does not have ADLS2 in my areas because they haven't been Allowed to install their equipment into the nearby exchange. Not allowed by Telstra - our once Govt Owned phone company who owns the Lines and Exchanges and who leases said resources to other phone providers. (You think there is choice? There is not really. No matter who you use as your fixed line provider, Telstra makes a buck.)

Of course, when we can get wireless Satelite internet provided by an offshore source, then filtering will be hard for the Aust govt to do, right?

Michael Ross

Adman October 18, 2008 10:46 PM

Re: Leftist Australian Govt To Filter Internet, Just Like Communist China Does
 
I can't wait for "B-O" to get in.

Us, "Used-To-Be-Free" Americans are close behind with Gummit control.

Don Alm....anti-Lefty

Unregistered November 2, 2008 01:43 PM

Re: Leftist Australian Govt To Filter Internet, Just Like Communist China Does
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRoss (Post 22709)
Damn, damn and double damn.

The Australian Govt is going to turn Big Brother and filter the internet just like China does. Funny how the lefty Aussie leader happens to speak fluent Chinese.


Dear Michael,

Thanks.

We here in the "FREEDOM Loving" USA feel your pain.

In order to ENTERTAIN Terr-orists (Oh, excuse me - CATCH them ) - We've got some nifty computers set up to monitor what we say ANYWHERE in the USA - on ANY phone.

If you say one of the Proscribed words.

BAM.

A recorder is slapped on your phone line.

You got any of that going on Down-Under?

Glenn

MichaelRoss November 6, 2008 05:52 AM

It's Global
 
Glenn

Echelon
is
Global.

We have a US-Base Echelon Monitoring Station in Australia. It's out in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the country where there is little interference from stray signals. And far away from prying eyes.

Echelon works by Listening to phone calls. When certain Key Words are uttered, the call is recorded for later listening to by a human being.

So saying Bomb, Bin Laden and Bush in the same conversation May get the call recorded. But a human will then decide whether your call is of Interest and things will progress - or not - from there.

Else. There are 28+ cameras on one road between Brisbane and the Gold Coast. And we can even view some of the footage ourselves from other Cams around the city. Such as here http://www.mainroads.qld.gov.au/web/...s+and+web+cams (there are other sites with the same cam feed)

Police in this state have been granted Authority to enter your premises Without a Warrant. Laws to allow police to Confiscate cars they believe to be Hooning. And other Big Bro stuff.

Michael Ross


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