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John Palma February 21, 2003 07:21 PM

"Perceived Value?"
 
I just got in an email from one of the marketing folks, and it is similar to many that I get on a daily basis.

Here it is...then I will make a comment.

"Perceived Value - The Art of Making Your Product Look Like It's Worth 20 Times What You Are Charging For It"

Here's another technique that is perfect for Internet marketing.

Increasing the perceived value is easily done by simply adding bonuses that cost you little or nothing to add and create a 'package deal'!

Let's say you are selling a book on getting to the top of search engines....

You could add 2 or 3 web marketing reports you found as bonuses. You could add some free software you discovered that made your job 100 times easier, you could add this e-book you're reading now and so on.

Write down every benefit the reader will get from theses bonuses and make a bulleted list of them!

This can make your $29.95 book seem like it's worth $229.95!

Look for things that can go along with your product as bonuses but yet cost you very little to produce. With a little effort you can easily make your current product seem like it's worth 20 times what you are charging for it.

It will actually be worth more than you are charging if you put some good bonuses together. And that's great - it cost you nothing extra and will blow your sales through the roof. Everybody wins.

I am probably old fashioned, but I just had to get this off my chest.

I feel the concept of "perceived value" is being overdone.

What happened to actually giving real value versus "perceived" value.

It seems that in the end, people will (or maybe they already have) become so "innoculated" to sales pitches, because like advertising, it just isn't trusted by the majority of folks anymore.

Maybe I'm not "getting it".

Oh well...

I feel better now.

Regards,
John Palma


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Brendon February 22, 2003 08:54 AM

No such thing as real
 
Hi John

It's a good point you bring up. I've been in
marketing since I was a lad and the one thing
that I know to be true is this:

Perception is reality.

All those bonuses don't aid perceived value for
the majority of people. People will perceive them
as not being of much value and buy (or not buy)
accordingly.

Adding a bonus only adds value if the prospect
perceives it to add value. That's where a lot of
marketers go wrong. You need to be able to 'talk'
with your prospect and establish what is
perceived as valuable to him.

The computers in my office have just caused me a
lot of problems by crashing and burning. I have
never bothered too much about backing up my files
before.

Before my problems I wouldn't have paid $100 for
a CD burner.

Now I'd be quite happy to pay $1,000 for a CD burner.
That's my perception now.

If you've never had a computer virus before, you
might not perceive much value in an anti-virus
program. After you've been infected the program
is all of a sudden perceived as much more
valuable to you. And you're happy to pay more.

The only reality is that which you perceive.

Hope that helps John.

Regards

Brendon

Don Alm February 22, 2003 11:29 AM

What's worked for me....
 
....with "Information" products....is to offer "Bonuses" with HIGHER "Perceived Value" than the main product.

Potential customers see the "High Perceived Value" of the Bonuses and feel "compelled" to order.

I once failed to include a certain "FREE Bonus" in one of my programs and people got all "pissy", even though I explained it was "coming in a few weeks".

They wanted the "Bonus" more than the "main" product so...I made the "Bonus" the main program in my next sales material.

Don Alm

> I just got in an email from one of the
> marketing folks, and it is similar to many
> that I get on a daily basis.

> Here it is...then I will make a comment.

> "Perceived Value - The Art of Making
> Your Product Look Like It's Worth 20 Times
> What You Are Charging For It"

> Here's another technique that is perfect for
> Internet marketing.

> Increasing the perceived value is easily
> done by simply adding bonuses that cost you
> little or nothing to add and create a
> 'package deal'!

> Let's say you are selling a book on getting
> to the top of search engines....

> You could add 2 or 3 web marketing reports
> you found as bonuses. You could add some
> free software you discovered that made your
> job 100 times easier, you could add this
> e-book you're reading now and so on.

> Write down every benefit the reader will get
> from theses bonuses and make a bulleted list
> of them!

> This can make your $29.95 book seem like
> it's worth $229.95!

> Look for things that can go along with your
> product as bonuses but yet cost you very
> little to produce. With a little effort you
> can easily make your current product seem
> like it's worth 20 times what you are
> charging for it.

> It will actually be worth more than you are
> charging if you put some good bonuses
> together. And that's great - it cost you
> nothing extra and will blow your sales
> through the roof. Everybody wins.

> I am probably old fashioned, but I just had
> to get this off my chest.

> I feel the concept of "perceived
> value" is being overdone.

> What happened to actually giving real value
> versus "perceived" value.

> It seems that in the end, people will (or
> maybe they already have) become so
> "innoculated" to sales pitches,
> because like advertising, it just isn't
> trusted by the majority of folks anymore.

> Maybe I'm not "getting it".

> Oh well...

> I feel better now.

> Regards,
> John Palma




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Rooster February 22, 2003 03:08 PM

This Is My Experience In This Regard....
 
Hello: I was selling my products for $9.88, had it set up so that you could process a credit card almost instantly as all the experts say you should...I was delivering my products digitally as PDF's...My guarantee stated if for any reason you didn't like the product you could get your money back, no time limit and no questions asked!...Well of course, people would download the product, print it out and then ask for their money back or just do a chargeback with their credit card company...I'm sure we all realize this is simple 'theft'!...

Here is what I decided to do: I eliminated the 'buy' buttons that linked to 2checkout.com and done away with credit card processing that was taking more than a dollar of my price...As a test, I eliminated all reference to price and posted a guarantee that stated: "Down load the report, read it, inspect it and try it out...If you find the information is useful and informative pay me what 'YOU' think it is worth!...If you don't find it useful, you owe me nothing!...How is THAT for a guarantee?"...

Here are the results of the test: Almost all who downloaded the report sent me either $20 or $25!...Apparently they thought more of the product than I did!...Now I post the same guarantee and simply state that $20 is my average donation...

I guess the moral here is that if your product is REALLY good, you don't have to 'hype' it and the market will seek it's own level...(Seems as if I remember reading that somewhere)...My sales have doubled by my doing this!...

I look forward to this groups' feedback....Rooster

I just got in an email from one of the
> marketing folks, and it is similar to many
> that I get on a daily basis.

> Here it is...then I will make a comment.

> "Perceived Value - The Art of Making
> Your Product Look Like It's Worth 20 Times
> What You Are Charging For It"

> Here's another technique that is perfect for
> Internet marketing.

> Increasing the perceived value is easily
> done by simply adding bonuses that cost you
> little or nothing to add and create a
> 'package deal'!

> Let's say you are selling a book on getting
> to the top of search engines....

> You could add 2 or 3 web marketing reports
> you found as bonuses. You could add some
> free software you discovered that made your
> job 100 times easier, you could add this
> e-book you're reading now and so on.

> Write down every benefit the reader will get
> from theses bonuses and make a bulleted list
> of them!

> This can make your $29.95 book seem like
> it's worth $229.95!

> Look for things that can go along with your
> product as bonuses but yet cost you very
> little to produce. With a little effort you
> can easily make your current product seem
> like it's worth 20 times what you are
> charging for it.

> It will actually be worth more than you are
> charging if you put some good bonuses
> together. And that's great - it cost you
> nothing extra and will blow your sales
> through the roof. Everybody wins.

> I am probably old fashioned, but I just had
> to get this off my chest.

> I feel the concept of "perceived
> value" is being overdone.

> What happened to actually giving real value
> versus "perceived" value.

> It seems that in the end, people will (or
> maybe they already have) become so
> "innoculated" to sales pitches,
> because like advertising, it just isn't
> trusted by the majority of folks anymore.

> Maybe I'm not "getting it".

> Oh well...

> I feel better now.

> Regards,
> John Palma




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Pete Godfrey February 22, 2003 08:06 PM

Re: "Perceived Value?"
 
Hi John,

I believe that you have to have a top product first and then think about the bonuses.

In my mail order business, bonuses do increase your response rate ... no doubt about it. I create all of my own bonuses, this way they are unique to what I am offering. On my order form I actually stamp the cut off date for the bonuses ... this is usually ten days after the posting. The many customer who order on the last day is testimony to the fact this works.

When I've finished creating my main product, I always then think of the bonuses. I ask myself: "What would my customers want? What would be the perfect problem soving bonus?' If you keep your mind on your customer's wants, needs and desires, instead of your own bank account, coming up with bonuses will be easy.

I remember reading what Ted Nicholas said about bonuses. "If you can't sell 'em, don't try giving them away."

Too often when I read sales letters on the net, the bonuses are piled one on top another in a mind numbing number and these bonuses are supposed to be worth $1980.00 ... all for the sake of a $20.00 ebook. If they're worth that much, they wouldn't be giving them away.

In my humble opinion ... just keep your mind on your customers, their worries, their fears, their wants, desires and needs and you will not only come up with a perfect product, but also a perfect bonus that's been specifically designed to help your customers. Because when it comes right down to it, the most important asset your business has is a current list of satisfied customers.

All the best.

Pete Godfrey
Australia's Extra-Income Expert

> I just got in an email from one of the
> marketing folks, and it is similar to many
> that I get on a daily basis.

> Here it is...then I will make a comment.

> "Perceived Value - The Art of Making
> Your Product Look Like It's Worth 20 Times
> What You Are Charging For It"

> Here's another technique that is perfect for
> Internet marketing.

> Increasing the perceived value is easily
> done by simply adding bonuses that cost you
> little or nothing to add and create a
> 'package deal'!

> Let's say you are selling a book on getting
> to the top of search engines....

> You could add 2 or 3 web marketing reports
> you found as bonuses. You could add some
> free software you discovered that made your
> job 100 times easier, you could add this
> e-book you're reading now and so on.

> Write down every benefit the reader will get
> from theses bonuses and make a bulleted list
> of them!

> This can make your $29.95 book seem like
> it's worth $229.95!

> Look for things that can go along with your
> product as bonuses but yet cost you very
> little to produce. With a little effort you
> can easily make your current product seem
> like it's worth 20 times what you are
> charging for it.

> It will actually be worth more than you are
> charging if you put some good bonuses
> together. And that's great - it cost you
> nothing extra and will blow your sales
> through the roof. Everybody wins.

> I am probably old fashioned, but I just had
> to get this off my chest.

> I feel the concept of "perceived
> value" is being overdone.

> What happened to actually giving real value
> versus "perceived" value.

> It seems that in the end, people will (or
> maybe they already have) become so
> "innoculated" to sales pitches,
> because like advertising, it just isn't
> trusted by the majority of folks anymore.

> Maybe I'm not "getting it".

> Oh well...

> I feel better now.

> Regards,
> John Palma

John Palma February 22, 2003 10:08 PM

Thanks...
 
I appreciate the responses.

I don't have a problem with actually increasing the value of a "deal", but what I was getting at was the "hype" in many e-mails I get from those folks that use the following words:

++++++++++++++++++

"Increasing the perceived value is easily done by simply adding bonuses that cost you little or nothing to add"

(My comment - maybe the stuff is then worth little or nothing???)

This can make your $29.95 book seem like it's worth $229.95!

(My comment - note the word "seem")

With a little effort you can easily make your current product seem like it's worth 20 times what you are charging for it.

(My comment - again that word - "seem")

++++++++++++++++++

It's just that if it is of no value, then dog-gone it...it's of no value. Making it "appear" to be is just plain deception.

Anyway, it's not going to change, but it just bugged me to read that stuff.

In a way it also made me realize that when I was new to the net and I was being "sold", I now know that many of the sales letters I received weren't geniune. The folks promoting a "can't live without this product" didn't even use it themselves. What a sad situation.

Oh well...I probably am being too idealistic...but that's just the way I'm wired.


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Andy Frain February 23, 2003 04:47 AM

Sales ploys and real value...
 
John, you are right...we are all getting 'innoculated' against sales pitches.

We are bombarded with them. We have read (sorry skimmed)soooo many.

OK, I understand that being a student of selling its my job to recognise the 'tactic's that most use. In fact most of the time I am embarrasingly so far ahead of them 'cos its all the SAME.

It's the same offline too.Local businesss owners see another cold call sales pitch coming and have worked out more ploys for saying 'no' politely than the salesman can ever cope with. They are ahead of them and can see everything coming!

The same goes online. So if you are using exactly the same tactics as everyone else you are more likely to insipre a yawn than a sale. You KNOW what I mean...

HEADLINE - PROBLEM- TESTIMONIALS- SOLUTION- BULLETED BENEFITS- TRIAL CLOSE- BONUSES- CLOSE

So we skim. We learn how to avoid the 'formula'. I want to know if I am interested in the problem then I go to the benefits and then to the bottom of the page...studiously ignoring the bonuses.

If it represents value I buy...if it doesnt I dont.

I wince as I see the 'herd' using yesterdays tactics in the information age. ie as it gets tougher to sell anything because of the sheer number of 'pitches' the 'herd' use MORE hype as an attempt to sell more...

Not realising all they are doing is adding to the problem by using the same old tired ploys... and of course not selling much in the process :o)

Its advesarial selling that went out in the...well decades ago anyway

You have to be different and have NEW tools for the job because the territory has changed *forever*

Great thread again

Regards
Andy


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Marcia Yudkin February 23, 2003 06:22 AM

Why Rooster's Technique Works
 
> Here is what I decided to do: I eliminated
> the 'buy' buttons that linked to
> 2checkout.com and done away with credit card
> processing that was taking more than a
> dollar of my price...As a test, I eliminated
> all reference to price and posted a
> guarantee that stated: "Down load the
> report, read it, inspect it and try it
> out...If you find the information is useful
> and informative pay me what 'YOU' think it
> is worth!...If you don't find it useful, you
> owe me nothing!...How is THAT for a
> guarantee?"...

Rooster,

This is a terrific example for my Marketing Minute newsletter (I will get in touch privately for more details)!

One lesson here is that many of us undervalue our products and our expertise.

Key to Rooster getting those payments is something he didn't mention: If you go to his Web site, it's clear that you can't download his reports anonymously. You must request them in a personal email, to which he replies personally, with the report attached.

Note that Rooster's web site sets himself up as a real person, with his photo and his bio and moreover, to request this no-risk trial and a pay-what-you-like booklet, you must request it in a manner which feels like the Internet equivalent of face-to-face. People who don't really want the information or who have no intention of paying anything won't request it in this situation, I believe.

Thus he weeds out dishonest people and sets up a situation where only a complete creep who did see the value in what he requested would not pay something.

It's the equivalent of setting up a booth at a county fair, sitting below a sign that says, "Have a slice of my pie! How much? Pay what you think it's worth, after you eat it." Who could eat it and enjoy it and then not pay what it was worth?!

My prediction is that if Rooster changed his site so that people could download the files without requesting them, his voluntary payment rate would go way down.

Anyone want to test this?

Marcia Yudkin


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Dave February 23, 2003 11:28 AM

Rooster's Confidence & Sheer Genius Restores Hope!!
 
Rooster and All,
I can't tell you what a great thing you have done for all of us. That took guts and was the greatest way to build confidence. The fact that it worked so well restores our hope that humanity is not completely lost in hype copy. Like others, I am becoming jaded to the average sales pitch, they all sound the same and you know they have some high $ back end they will try and convince you to buy, not to mention the boot camp or seminar. And we all thought that the TV infomercials were bad, just look at where internet marketing has gone.
A very wise gentleman (Michael Ross) recently advised me to tell it like it is from an honest, down-to-earth, point of view. I knew that was great advice and Rooster's experiance helps prove that.
Let this be a reminder not to get too cynical about all the hype and scams. There are still a lot of really great, honest, people out there. IMHO they still out number the other kind of folks, and that is really good news!
Just think how this forum and other good ones like it save so many people from falling victim to all the junk out there.
Thanks to Michael, and all the wise folks who share thier wisdom here.

Dave Horn




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Boyd Stone February 23, 2003 04:42 PM

Well said! [DNO]
 
dno
> Rooster and All,
> I can't tell you what a great thing you have
> done for all of us. That took guts and was
> the greatest way to build confidence. The
> fact that it worked so well restores our
> hope that humanity is not completely lost in
> hype copy. Like others, I am becoming jaded
> to the average sales pitch, they all sound
> the same and you know they have some high $
> back end they will try and convince you to
> buy, not to mention the boot camp or
> seminar. And we all thought that the TV
> infomercials were bad, just look at where
> internet marketing has gone.
> A very wise gentleman (Michael Ross)
> recently advised me to tell it like it is
> from an honest, down-to-earth, point of
> view. I knew that was great advice and
> Rooster's experiance helps prove that.
> Let this be a reminder not to get too
> cynical about all the hype and scams. There
> are still a lot of really great, honest,
> people out there. IMHO they still out number
> the other kind of folks, and that is really
> good news!
> Just think how this forum and other good
> ones like it save so many people from
> falling victim to all the junk out there.
> Thanks to Michael, and all the wise folks
> who share thier wisdom here.

> Dave Horn


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