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Here is the Listing of Companies and Job Cuts.
DaimlerChrysler 26,000
-Motorola: 22,000 -Lucent Technologies: 16,000 -Delphi Automotive Systems: 11,500 -Verizon: 10,000 -Procter & Gamble: 9,600 -Nortel Networks: 9,000 -Solectron: 8,200 -Sara Lee: 7,000 -ADC Telecommunications: 6,000-7,000 -Whirlpool: 6,000 -J.C. Penney: 5,300 -Compaq: 5,000 -Xerox: 4,000 -The Walt Disney Co.: 4,000 -Textron: 3,600 -Schawb: 3,400 -Ericsson: 3,300 -Gateway: 3,000 -ShopKo Stores: 2,500 -AOL Time Warner: 2,400 -Standard Register: 2,400 -Sears: 2,400 -Electrolux: 2,000 -Service Merchandise: 1,750 -Hewlett-Packard: 1,700 -American Greetings: 1,500 -Amazon.com: 1,300 -3Com: 1,200 -Freightliner.: 1,085 -Norfolk Southern: 1,000-2,000 |
How to predict long range trends in the stock market....
Hi Simon, Gordon, Rick, and everyone,
Times of change are times of opportunities.... Often when people are "downsized", a proportion of them will turn towards starting their own business(es) to support themselves.... So services for the new businesspeople probably represents an opportunity.... Also, the plunging stock markets does represent a buying opportunity.... Based on demographic data, I predict the stock market will rebound within at most a year or so (though probably not the tech stocks to their previous height, since that was an irrational "bubble").... Harry S. Dent has shown that the US stock market generally follows the US birth data shifted by about 49 years. In his 1993 book, he correctly predicted the stock market boom we've enjoyed in the late 1990s as a result of this demographic data.... (As far as I know, he's the only one to have correctly predicted this boom BEFORE it happened.) We had the boom in births from 1945 onwards, and that meant a boom in the stock market in the late 1990s. Why shifted by 49 years? The reason why is because that's the age which the average person spends the most money on products.... More money spent means higher profits for various companies. Higher company profits means higher "valuations" for these companies and therefore, in general, higher stock market prices.... I don't have the book with me right now (a friend borrowed it), but in "The Great Boom Ahead" by Harry S. Dent, there's a dip in the birth rate data in the early 1950s some time, and that's the "dip" we're seeing now in the stock market.... Based on birth rate data, the stock market should boom again within a year or so, and keep growing until somewhere around 2010 (give or take a couple years).... After 2010, again based on birth rate data, we could start to see a big depression (to rival the Great Depression of the 1930s) as the baby boomers reduce their spending.... Although that big depression is still around 9 years away, the time to prepare for it is now.... By the way, just because the stock market in general will go down, it doesn't mean that all industries will go down.... Some industries will boom, particularly those in which the retired baby boomers will tend to spend their money, and also those in which the "baby boom echo" generation (the baby boomer kids), who will be in their 20s, will spend their money.... Yeah, I know this is a long range view, but it actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it. The correlation that Harry S. Dent has shown between birth rate data and stock market indices in the USA has been borne out by history, and it was on this basis that he predicted the stock market boom of the late 1990s BEFORE it happened. (He also correctly predicted the current Japanese recession, again BEFORE it happened.) So, I'm riding out the current storm, and buying these undervalued stocks now before the rebound in the stock market comes again, which will probably be later this year or some time next year.... I know some will think I'm off my rocker, going loco, around the bend, gone CRAZY for talking about such long term trends.... But if you want to be safe (and I want you all to be), then the time to think about it is NOW. As you know, I study - HARD - to find out what REALLY WORKS, and Harry S. Dent's approach not only makes sense but is borne out by history.... - Dien |
Re: How to predict long range trends in the stock market....
> Hi Simon, Gordon, Rick, and everyone,
> Times of change are times of > opportunities.... > Often when people are "downsized", > a proportion of them will turn towards > starting their own business(es) to support > themselves.... So services for the new > businesspeople probably represents an > opportunity.... > Also, the plunging stock markets does > represent a buying opportunity.... Based on > demographic data, I predict the stock market > will rebound within at most a year or so > (though probably not the tech stocks to > their previous height, since that was an > irrational "bubble").... > Harry S. Dent has shown that the US stock > market generally follows the US birth data > shifted by about 49 years. In his 1993 book, > he correctly predicted the stock market boom > we've enjoyed in the late 1990s as a result > of this demographic data.... (As far as I > know, he's the only one to have correctly > predicted this boom BEFORE it happened.) We > had the boom in births from 1945 onwards, > and that meant a boom in the stock market in > the late 1990s. > Why shifted by 49 years? The reason why is > because that's the age which the average > person spends the most money on products.... > More money spent means higher profits for > various companies. Higher company profits > means higher "valuations" for > these companies and therefore, in general, > higher stock market prices.... > I don't have the book with me right now (a > friend borrowed it), but in "The Great > Boom Ahead" by Harry S. Dent, there's a > dip in the birth rate data in the early > 1950s some time, and that's the > "dip" we're seeing now in the > stock market.... Based on birth rate data, > the stock market should boom again within a > year or so, and keep growing until somewhere > around 2010 (give or take a couple > years).... > After 2010, again based on birth rate data, > we could start to see a big depression (to > rival the Great Depression of the 1930s) as > the baby boomers reduce their spending.... > Although that big depression is still around > 9 years away, the time to prepare for it is > now.... > By the way, just because the stock market in > general will go down, it doesn't mean that > all industries will go down.... Some > industries will boom, particularly those in > which the retired baby boomers will tend to > spend their money, and also those in which > the "baby boom echo" generation > (the baby boomer kids), who will be in their > 20s, will spend their money.... > Yeah, I know this is a long range view, but > it actually makes a lot of sense when you > think about it. The correlation that Harry > S. Dent has shown between birth rate data > and stock market indices in the USA has been > borne out by history, and it was on this > basis that he predicted the stock market > boom of the late 1990s BEFORE it happened. > (He also correctly predicted the current > Japanese recession, again BEFORE it > happened.) > So, I'm riding out the current storm, and > buying these undervalued stocks now before > the rebound in the stock market comes again, > which will probably be later this year or > some time next year.... > I know some will think I'm off my rocker, > going loco, around the bend, gone CRAZY for > talking about such long term trends.... But > if you want to be safe (and I want you all > to be), then the time to think about it is > NOW. As you know, I study - HARD - to find > out what REALLY WORKS, and Harry S. Dent's > approach not only makes sense but is borne > out by history.... > - Dien Dien Is there a simpler way to select stocks that will rebound. I've been struggling with William O'Neil system The founder of investors business daily. Thanks in advance, Joseph |
Have you heard...
There's a new book out by Hagstrom called "The Warren Buffett Portfolio".
And a new Kiyosaki book called "Rich Kid Smart Kid". Michael Ross. |
Re: How to predict long range trends in the stock market....
> Hi Simon, Gordon, Rick, and everyone,
> I know some will think I'm off my rocker, > going loco, around the bend, gone CRAZY for > talking about such long term trends.... But > if you want to be safe (and I want you all > to be), then the time to think about it is > NOW. As you know, I study - HARD - to find > out what REALLY WORKS, and Harry S. Dent's > approach not only makes sense but is borne > out by history.... Another interesting coincidence. One of the things Gordon and I do during our meetings is show each other what direct mail pieces we've received and sometimes products we've bought. We do this so we can learn what techniques other successful marketers are using and how we can employ those same techniques. Like them or hate them, (and I see even Dan Kennedy sells at least one product with them now), one of the best at this game is Nightingale-Conant. They have me right where they want me. With their hands in my wallet. Well, last night during one of our meetings, I showed Gordon a direct mail piece that I had recently received from NC. The piece had to do with an audio series by Harry S. Dent. It was called the "Roaring 2000s". Gordon asked me what I thought of the title and we agreed that the title and the concept were probably wrong. You're saying "not so fast." Harry might have it right. Hmmm. I might give this product more serious consideration. Thanks Dien. Rick Smith, "The Net Guerrilla" |
The Roaring First Chapter of Dent's Book.
CHAPTER ONE
The Roaring 2000s Building the Wealth and Lifestyle You Desire in the Greatest Boom in History By HARRY S. DENT Simon & Schuster Introduction: The Secret to Building Wealth...and Lifestyle It is common wisdom today that the key to building wealth is taking risks. People who take higher risks get the higher returns and wealth. There are risk/return graphs in investment and business that prove this. Most of us by now have heard that stocks have higher risk and volatility but higher returns over time than investments like bonds. New entrepreneurial ventures have higher risk and failure rates than established businesses and tend to create greater fortunes. And this is definitely true. But here is the paradox I have learned through many years of hands-on business experience with successful people: The best entrepreneurs, executives, and investors I have worked with who actually achieve the highest returns and build the most wealth don't see it that way! Despite often being involved in unproven ventures and changing management or investments, they don't perceive that they are taking big risks at all. They are simply doing the obvious. They are very definite that what they are doing or investing in must and will succeed. They have a clear understanding of change and fundamental trends that seem all but inevitable to them. They appear risky and unclear only to people who don't understand such changes and naturally cling to familiar patterns that are more comfortable. Was Lee Iacocca unclear about the changes that were necessary to save a dying Chrysler Corporation in the mid-1980s? It was obvious to anyone who didn't have a stake in the old ways of doing business. How long did it take Gerstner to figure out as an outside manager what it would take to turn around IBM in the mid-1990s? Haven't much of the public and outside analysts been clear that Apple needed radical changes before its near demise in the mid-1990s? Was Steve Jobs unclear about the potential of personal computers in the late 1970s? Or Bill Gates about the need for a software operating system standard in the mid-1980s? Or Gordon Moore about the doubling of semiconductor power every 18 months since the mid-1960s? Was Michael Milken unclear about the need to finance such new emerging companies through nontraditional means in the 1980s? The many failures among the high-risk ventures come from naive people who are hoping to make an easy killing, such as winning the lottery or getting instant salvation or overnight success in business. It is not that new directions or investments are proven or that it will be easy or that there won't be challenges. That's the hard part. These successful people have the clarity and conviction to push through such challenges. They foresee the need for a new product or service or the viability of a new technology or investment. Why? They have a unique history of experience that has already validated it for them. They have done their homework and know it is possible. They understand the fundamental trends driving the changes they are investing in. And their experience and homework has also taught them that it won't necessarily happen overnight or be easy. Therefore they usually don't expect it to be. But if it is much harder than they thought, it's their belief in the feasibility and inevitability of what they are doing that keeps them moving ahead until their vision becomes a reality. It's the strength and attraction of their vision that allows these people to overcome the obstacles that appear as risk, uncertainty, and volatility to others. Clarity about long-term fundamental trends is the key to dealing with the random and uncertain short-term events that inevitably come in the path of any goal. A clear vision of future change and the discipline to stay the course are the keys to building wealth and success, whether in business or investments. Setbacks are only opportunities to learn, adapt, or invest more. It isn't a matter of chance to these successful people. In this incredible era of change and progress, the lion's share of wealth is going to the top half of 1 percent of the population -- those with this understanding of change and a systematic approach to taking so-called risks. Eighty percent of today's millionaires are self-made, not through inheritances. In The Millionaire Next Door, the authors' surveys of wealthy people have found that the typical millionaire achieved such status by systematically underspending and oversaving from modestly above-average incomes. The law of compounding interest and investment returns built wealth over time, not overnight successes or excessive risk-taking. And a high percentage was self-employed, from successful small business owners in mostly nonglamour industries to big-time entrepreneurs. I watched one small business owner establish a simple business that sold a narrow line of shorts to Wal-Mart. He managed a $5 million business with two small factories in towns far away from his home office in Paradise Valley, Arizona. No management complexity, no bureaucracy! Roy focused on one simple concept that he could master and control without a bureaucracy while still maintaining quality. Though he had many opportunities, he adamantly refused to let his business grow beyond his ability to maintain his personal knowledge, control, and, most important, his beloved casual and family-devoted lifestyle. His profits were high, his business consistent, and his lifestyle almost perfect...without the stress of international competition and a workaholic lifestyle that would have eclipsed his family values. He achieved wealth and the ultimate lifestyle! I worked with another entrepreneur and investor, a penniless immigrant, who consistently bought raw land around two of the fastest growing cities outside of L.A. Where was he buying? In a seemingly unattractive area compared to other booming suburbs closer to downtown. The results: he turned a $7,000 original investment into $50 million in less than a decade. This was worthless land in the desert that his analysis of the consistently expanding sprawl indicated would almost certainly be in demand within 5 to 10 years. He had documented exactly how this had happened in similarly unattractive areas within the same radius in other growth cities. It was a certainty for him. He bought in a circle around these two new growth cities and had the patience to wait for the development to approach in whatever direction it chose. And he had the conviction to convince other investors to leverage his investment and join in the inevitable profits with him. Scott McNealy of Sun Microsystems started saying in 1986, "The network is the computer." This was something that almost no one in the highly innovative computer and software industries even remotely understood at the time. It wasn't until 1995 when the Internet suddenly emerged into the mainstream of this country that this vision became one of the greatest trends of all time. Sun is now positioned at the center of this revolution. The stock market and the press have rewarded him enormously. He had the staying power to stick with his conviction until it became the reality he foresaw. He didn't give up or change strategies simply because the industry didn't acknowledge it yet. Anita Roddick built the Body Shop, a worldwide franchise of personal-care stores, out of a conviction that there were more natural and healthy ways of caring for ourselves. She also assumed that people would be moved by the impact of such natural consumption habits on the benefits to traditional industries of third world countries and the resultant preservation of rain forests versus clearing for cattle production and urban development. This message and cause allowed her to attract motivated employees and eliminate traditional advertising expenditures that many baby boomers considered offensive. She simply assumed that many other people shared her values. And many did indeed! Her personal experience and that of many people she associated with made this a near certainty for her. She understood and invested in one of the most fundamental trends of the new generation: environmental and health concerns. Peter Lynch, one of the best investment managers of all time, had an intuitive sense of the new retail and business formats that could bring a better level of service at radically lower prices to the consumer. He was not only a great stock and technical analyst by training and experience, he was also an adamant and early consumer of such concepts. These were the very types of consumer trends he was drawn to through his own personal experience. He saw the value of long-term trends before most of us did. He could spot a Wal-Mart or Home Depot or PetSmart right from the beginning. It was a near certainty to him that such concepts would succeed. And he had the professional experience to evaluate whether such companies were financially sound and undervalued. He helped lead the explosive trend in mutual funds by proving that a focused, professional investment manager who technically and intuitively understood a sector of change in our economy could create incredible wealth for everyday investors who didn't have such skills -- all in an easy-to-track "packaged" investment program. Peter Lynch never pretended to be able to predict the economy or fortunes of such companies in the short term. He bet on the long-term fundamentals. He experienced many short-term setbacks and failures. But the 10 to 30 times returns he experienced over time on the best calls made him a legendary fund manager, more than making up for the bad calls. Warren Buffet did the same thing for the incredible surge in successful brand names in mature industrialized countries like ours around the world. You know...companies like Coca-Cola, GE, Gillette, and McDonald's. He has been accumulating large positions in such companies since the early 1980s. He bought when most investors considered these to be relatively mature companies with slower growth ahead and high valuations from historical performance. He wasn't focusing on the past trends in countries like the United States but in the emerging third world countries where 5 billion new consumers were absolutely destined to follow the same buying trends we had already established and realized in the past century. Talk about long term fundamental trends! And these emerging consumers didn't need to go through the brand wars that occurred in the United States. They already knew through international television and communications which brands were the top ones here. As long as such leading companies had sound management, financial structures, and clear strategies of investing heavily in these new markets with dominant market shares, he was patient enough to wait for the inevitable growth and profits. He buys value waiting to happen on the basis of projectable long-term fundamental trends. He has patience. He buys when he sees such value and holds for the long term. He doesn't try to anticipate short-term trends in the economy or in such companies any more than Peter Lynch did. By 1997 he had stopped buying heavily in Coca-Cola while accumulating shares of McDonald's. Why? The stock markets had seen his vision of companies like Coca-Cola and driven valuations too high, at 46 times earnings in mid-1997. He didn't sell Coca-Cola as it was still likely to grow at its earnings rate of 18 percent a year with less than 2 percent volatility well into the future, which is still a great return with low risk. But he bought McDonald's because the short-term nature of the markets was overstressing the obvious maturing of the burger market in the United States versus the much greater long term potential overseas. He is a long-term investor just like many of the very elite households in this country that are building wealth in this unprecedented boom. Meanwhile, most of us make more modest gains. And a significant minority is falling behind as the rapid pace of change makes obsolete our past businesses, jobs, and investment strategies. Investment is actually very simple. It is just like diet and exercise. I don't know about you, but I don't need to hear many more statistics about diet and exercise. It is pretty straightforward. It comes down to broccoli and chocolate cake. We all know that broccoli is better for us but we tend to choose the chocolate cake when we actually sit down to eat. The chocolate cake is simply irresistible, it tastes better, and it even feels better in the moment. But it isn't the best for our long-term health, or even for our energy and mood later in the day. A clear vision of fundamental change and a persistent and disciplined strategy of investment in time and money: those are the keys to building wealth, especially in a time of sweeping change that threatens old ways of thinking and doing business. But most investors think about timing the markets, picking the hottest stocks and funds, trying to beat the odds instead of the simpler, clearer long-term approach of a Warren Buffet. The purpose of this book is equally simple: To help you understand the fundamental trends that can be reliably projected into the future to allow you to build the wealth and lifestyle you desire in the greatest boom in history. I have spent 25 years analyzing such trends, beginning with an undergraduate education in economics, accounting and finance, followed by an M.B.A. at Harvard Business School in business management, marketing, and strategy. I have worked at the highest levels of business strategy with Fortune 100 companies at Bain & Company. I then worked in strategy and turnaround management with many entrepreneurial growth companies. I have been the CEO or CAO of several such companies, dealing with real human and business change at the extreme. Unlike an academic or an armchair economist, I have been directly involved in the dramatic changes occurring in our largest multinational companies and, more important, our vibrant emerging companies that are creating almost all of the growth and jobs in our economy. I was paid for forecasting fundamental changes in old and new industries: changes that companies had to invest their entire assets and strategies I had to be right or suffer the consequences. I have been an entrepreneur, having conducted research that has spawned my own business, which is not only succeeding beyond my original vision but may allow me to prosper while living on a Caribbean island. I have achieved the lifestyle I wanted, not from daydreams but from vision, patience, and understanding long-term trends that I determined were inevitable. Over my unique life and business experience, I learned how projectable such fundamental changes were. I simply adapted the proven tools in my profession of business and industry forecasting to the broader economy. I didn't consider this a risky proposition, although it took many years and much more struggle than I anticipated for such forecasting tools to be recognized. I also learned through entrepreneurial ventures, crisis management, and short-term investment trading how random and unpredictable short-term changes, events, and setbacks can be. How many experts have consistently predicted short-term events and market movements? Elaine Garzarelli was the last such expert timer to live and die by "the sword." And she was really good. Nobody has ever proven the ability to predict the short term over time. Instead I developed an intuitive sense of the sweeping but simple trends that were changing our lives, businesses, and investments. And very simple quantitative measures to verify and project such trends. That is where the real payoff is, just as the greatest entrepreneurs, business managers, and investors have proven throughout history. I have conducted extensive research, in many cases going back hundreds of years and even thousands of years of history, to validate these changes and develop a clear and understandable vision of where we are headed in this incredible boom...and even the inevitable downturn that will follow. This book is about bringing my proven tools of forecasting to people like you who may not have the time or interest to go through my experience in business, research, and forecasting. You can absolutely have a vision of the future because it is the predictable human and economic behavior of people like you and me that actually drives change in our society and economy. Therefore, you can understand these changes in very commonsense terms. Economists who have failed to forecast the most important changes of this era have missed the most fundamental insights, despite their obvious intelligence and meticulous analysis. They have missed the forest for the trees. The predictable impacts of the birth and aging of new generations drive economic, technological, and social changes that influence our lives, jobs, businesses, and investments over time. The impacts range from innovation to spending to borrowing to saving and even to the purchase of everyday items like potato chips or motorcycles. Consumer marketers have used age, income, and lifestyle demographics very successfully as a "snapshot" to determine how to best exploit trends in consumer behavior today. This book is about seeing such demographic and generation shifts as a "moving picture" to see the changes that will inevitably occur in the future to change our lives, career, business, and investment opportunities. You can understand and invest in the future lust as the most successful people have in the past. History is all about raising our standard of living through innovation and learning. It has also been about bringing a high standard of living to more and more people. The rich don't just get richer over time. Every day people move to higher standards of living and actually reduce the gap between the rich and the poor over time. Yes, history proves that the gap between rich and poor has narrowed dramatically over the long term, despite volatile periods of change that temporarily tend to benefit the rich. The average person was a serf or slave for most of history versus very few nobles, knights, or information-elite. This also happened in the last economic revolution from the late 1800s into the Roaring Twenties. But that innovation cycle and the new emerging economy created an unprecedented new prospering middle class in the 1950s and 1960s. The innovation of such entrepreneurial people is necessary to create new revolutions that "trickle down" over many decades to more and more people. It doesn't just happen overnight, like the secrets to building wealth I have already described. The S-curve principle described in this book is one of the many simple tools that will make change more obvious to you. It will show how most new products, technologies, and social trends move into our economy and create change and opportunities predictably...but not in the straight line that most experts forecast. I have been projecting the most fundamental changes in our economy, business, and investments since the mid-to-late 1980s with the simple tools I will present in this book. I am not someone who has become suddenly bullish with the incredible stock rises between 1995 and 1997. In 1988 I began speaking to business CEOs on my research predicting the greatest boom in history and unprecedented changes in business and management -- despite the infamous 1987 crash. I published my first book Our Power to Predict in 1989, in which I forecast an incredible boom to around 2010, with a Dow of 10,000, falling inflation and interest rates, and the resurgence of America in world markets. In this book I have updated my forecasts to a Dow of at least 21,500 and likely higher by including the massive wave of immigrants into our country since then. In late 1992 I published my best-known book, The Great Boom Ahead, which reiterated and expanded on these forecasts lust as depression and debt crisis books were all hitting the bestseller lists and negative views of the future were widespread. That book has become the bible of many financial advisors and investors over the past years because the forecasts have proven to be largely on the mark. It's not that I predicted everything right in the short term. I overforecast the severity of the recession of the early nineties after predicting it in 1989. I underforecast the stock boom to follow despite being wildly bullish at the time. I assumed that my prediction of the collapse of Japan's economic miracle and the fall in suburban real estate prices would have a greater impact on the fundamentals of growth of U.S. consumer trends in the short term. But consumers spent as the reliable statistics I will reveal in this book would have suggested despite these setbacks. That was part of my lesson in focusing too much on near-term trends. I wish I had had Warren Buffet or Peter Lynch as a mentor at that time. The Roaring 2000s is about projecting the inevitable trends that have already been established by the massive baby boom generation that will impact our economy and our lives as it predictably ages. I will bring a much updated view of the Internet and information revolution and the massive changes that will result in the coming decade in our work and business structures as they are finally moving into the mainstream of our economy. This will create a surge in productivity, wealth, lifestyle opportunities, and conveniences in our lives -- just as automobiles, electricity and motors, phones, and new consumer products such as Coca-Cola did dramatically beginning in the Roaring Twenties and expanding into the early 1970s. I will look at the predictable trends in the stock markets, business and entrepreneurial opportunities, jobs and careers, lifestyles, and real estate investing that can allow you to achieve your dreams in the greatest boom in history. And lifestyle is what it's all about, not merely achieving wealth. Although anyone who is wealthy would quickly agree that it is better than being poor. Surveys of happiness in this country have shown that wealth affects the sense of well-being by a factor of only 2 percent. Happiness is more about relationships, friends, family, and community...and a balanced life. It's more fundamentally about living, learning, experiencing, and growing as a human being. It's ultimately about evolution. It's what you do with your life that counts, and wealth can be a critical tool for achieving the freedom to maximize your experience and your impact on others. Money or economic wealth is ultimately about giving yourself the freedom to choose the lifestyle that you want and to champion the causes you believe in. That is the new ethic in this era of prosperity when many of us have already achieved the fundamentals of survival, security, and living. This book is more about how you can achieve the lifestyle you really want. Not just wealth...but the satisfying career, the opportunity to start your own business, the ability to innovate and establish your own business unit within your present corporation, the ability to live where you want to and still maintain or advance your standard of living, the ability to better manage change as an executive or professional within your company, the ability to manage your life to spend more time with the people you love rather than commuting and becoming a workaholic in today's stressful society of two-worker couples and downsizing of jobs. The ability to greatly evolve and advance one's standard of living has not always been possible for many people throughout history. We are living in the greatest period of change and progress since the printing press revolution and the discovery of America and the rest of the world after the late 1400s. Such times create the greatest opportunities for advancement of people from all socioeconomic sectors. The greatest advances in such times have often come from the drive and motivation of lower-class people and penniless immigrants. As I stated earlier, 80 percent of the millionaires today were self-made through either systematic investment from above average, not extreme, incomes or from entrepreneurial businesses. I will show how these revolutions are predictable and how they create changes in our economy and society. This will allow you, if you are open to change, to take advantage of these anticipated trends using your own unique experiences and insights. But it is up to you to apply these insights creatively to your own business and living circumstances to redesign how you work and where and how you live. We are in the midst of the greatest economic boom and technological revolution in history. And it hasn't occurred yet. It is about to emerge: just as cars, electricity, and phones did in the Roaring Twenties. The Roaring 2000s will come with the aging of the massive baby boom generation into its peak productivity, earning, and spending years and the emergence of their radical information revolution into the mainstream of our economy. Tighten your seatbelts and prepare for the greatest boom in history: from 1998 to 2008! I said this in late 1992 in The Great Boom Ahead and I will say it again: Stay invested and take any short-term setbacks in the stock market or in your career as an opportunity to invest more in change and growth. And when the next long-term downturn in the economy eventually occurs, I have advice for prospering in that stage as well. Best of success to you in the Roaring 2000s! (C) 1998 Harry Dent All rights reserved. ISBN: 0-684-83818-4 |
This is what struck me....
Hi Rick,
> Another interesting coincidence. One of the > things Gordon and I do during our meetings > is show each other what direct mail pieces > we've received and sometimes products we've > bought. We do this so we can learn what > techniques other successful marketers are > using and how we can employ those same > techniques. Like them or hate them, (and I > see even Dan Kennedy sells at least one > product with them now), one of the best at > this game is Nightingale-Conant. They have > me right where they want me. With their > hands in my wallet. Heheh. :) I've recently started to get myself on some catalog lists (as Gordon has recommended), so I'm hoping to get some more direct mail pieces too.... :) > Well, last night during > one of our meetings, I showed Gordon a > direct mail piece that I had recently > received from NC. The piece had to do with > an audio series by Harry S. Dent. It was > called the "Roaring 2000s". Gordon > asked me what I thought of the title and we > agreed that the title and the concept were > probably wrong. > You're saying "not so fast." Harry > might have it right. Hmmm. I might give this > product more serious consideration. Thanks > Dien. Actually, I agree with you. Harry S. Dent isn't a marketer.... Instead, he's a specialist in forecasting the effects that age-related trends has on the economy (and in various industries).... So his marketing techniques could be terrible, but I think his techniques for predicting the future are on the money. :) I don't have "The Roaring 2000s" by the way, that's a follow up book to "The Great Boom Ahead" (TGBA) which he published in 1993. I first learned about TGBA in 1994, when I saw it at a friend's house. My friend told me all about it, and I was kind of skeptical of the whole thing. Dent predicted a booming stock market, and a big Japanese recession -- and I thought he had it all wrong. What struck me was when these things happened! His timing for the Japanese recession was out by a couple years, but the guts of what he said was right! - Dien |
Thanks, Michael. First Chapter of the Book.
> There's a new book out by Hagstrom called
> "The Warren Buffett Portfolio". THE WARREN BUFFETT PORTFOLIO: MASTERING THE POWER OF THE FOCUS INVESTMENT STRATEGY by*Robert G., Jr. Hagstrom*Hagstrom Format:Hardcover,*246pp. ISBN: 0471247669 Publisher: John Wiley & Sons, Inc. Pub. date: April 1999 Other Formats:Analog Audio Cassette Prologue The Warren Buffett Portfolio Mastering the Power of the Focus Investment Strategy By Robert G. Hagstrom John Wiley & Sons, Inc. Copyright © 1999 Robert G. Hagstrom. All rights reserved. ISBN: 0-471-24766-9 Chapter One Focus Investing Robert, we just focus on a few outstanding companies. We're focus investors. —Warren Buffett I remember that conversation with Warren Buffett as if it happened yesterday. It was for me a defining moment, for two reasons. First, it moved my thinking in a totally new direction; and second, it gave a name to an approach to portfolio management that I instinctively felt made wonderful sense but that our industry had long overlooked. That approach is what we now call focus investing, and it is the exact opposite of what most people imagine that experienced investors do. *** Hollywood has given us a visual cliché of a money manager at work: talking into two phones at once, frantically taking notes while trying to keep an eye on jittery computer screens that blink and blip from all directions, slamming the keyboard whenever one of those computer blinks shows a minuscule drop in stock price. *** Warren Buffett, the quintessential focus investor, is as far from that stereotype of frenzy as anything imaginable. The man whom many consider the world's greatest investor is usually described with words like "soft-spoken," "down-to-earth," and "grandfatherly." He moves with the calm that is born of great confidence, yet his accomplishments and his performance record are legendary. It is no accident that the entire investment industry pays close attention to what he does. If Buffett characterizes his approach as "focus investing," we would be wise to learn what that means and how it is done. *** Focus investing is a remarkably simple idea, and yet, like most simple ideas, it rests on a complex foundation of interlocking concepts. If we hold the idea up to the light and look closely at all its facets, we find depth, substance, and solid thinking below the bright clarity of the surface. *** In this book, we will look closely at these interlocking concepts, one at a time. For now, I hope merely to introduce you to the core notion of focus investing. The goal of this overview chapter mirrors the goal of the book: to give you a new way of thinking about investment decisions and managing investment portfolios. Fair warning: this new way is, in all likelihood, the opposite of what you have always been told about investing in the stock market. It is as far from the usual way of thinking about stocks as Warren Buffett is from that Hollywood cliché. The essence of focus investing can be stated quite simply: Choose a few stocks that are likely to produce above-average returns over the long haul, concentrate the bulk of your investments in those stocks, and have the fortitude to hold steady during any short-term market gyrations. *** No doubt that summary statement immediately raises all sorts of questions in your mind: *** How do I identify those above-average stocks? *** How many is "a few"? *** What do you mean by "concentrate"? *** How long must I hold? And, saved for last: *** Why should I do this? The full answers to those questions are found in the subsequent chapters. Our work here is to construct an overview of the focus process, beginning with the very sensible question of why you should bother. PORTFOLIO MANAGEMENT TODAY: A CHOICE OF TWO In its current state, portfolio management appears to be locked into a tug-of-war between two competing strategies: active portfolio management and index investing. *** Active portfolio managers constantly buy and sell a great number of common stocks. Their job is to try to keep their clients satisfied, and that means consistently outperforming the market so that on any given day, if a client applies the obvious measuring stick—"How is my portfolio doing compared to the market overall?"—the answer is positive and the client leaves her money in the fund. To keep on top, active managers try to predict what will happen with stocks in the coming six months and continually churn the portfolio, hoping to take advantage of their predictions. On average, today's common stock mutual funds own more than one hundred stocks and generate turnover ratios of 80 percent. *** Index investing, on the other hand, is a buy-and-hold passive approach. It involves assembling, and then holding, a broadly diversified portfolio of common stocks deliberately designed to mimic the behavior of a specific benchmark index, such as the Standard & Poor's 500 Price Index (S&P 500). *** Compared to active management, index investing is somewhat new and far less common. Since the 1980s, when index funds fully came into their own as a legitimate alternative strategy, proponents of both approaches have waged combat to determine which one will ultimately yield the higher investment return. Active portfolio managers argue that, by virtue of their superior stock-picking skills, they can do better than any index. Index strategists, for their part, have recent history on their side. In a study that tracked results in a twenty-year period, from 1977 through 1997, the percentage of equity mutual funds that have been able to beat the S&P 500 dropped dramatically, from 50 percent in the early years to barely 25 percent in the last four years. Since 1997, the news is even worse. As of November 1998, 90 percent of actively managed funds were underperforming the market (averaging 14 percent lower than the S&P 500), which means that only 10 percent were doing better. *** Active portfolio management, as commonly practiced today, stands a very small chance of outperforming the S&P 500. Because they frenetically buy and sell hundreds of stocks each year, institutional money managers have, in a sense, become the market. Their basic theory is: Buy today whatever we predict can be sold soon at a profit, regardless of what it is. The fatal flaw in that logic is that, given the complex nature of the financial universe, predictions are impossible. (See Chapter 8 for a description of complex adaptive systems.) Further complicating this shaky theoretical foundation is the effect of the inherent costs that go with this high level of activity—costs that diminish the net returns to investors. When we factor in these costs, it becomes apparent that the active money management business has created its own downfall. *** Indexing, because it does not trigger equivalent expenses, is better than actively managed portfolios in many respects. But even the best index fund, operating at its peak, will only net exactly the returns of the overall market. Index investors can do no worse than the market—and no better. *** From the investor's point of view, the underlying attraction of both strategies is the same: minimize risk through diversification. By holding a large number of stocks representing many industries and many sectors of the market, investors hope to create a warm blanket of protection against the horrific loss that could occur if they had all their money in one arena that suffered some disaster. In a normal period (so the thinking goes), some stocks in a diversified fund will go down and others will go up, and let's keep our fingers crossed that the latter will compensate for the former. The chances get better, active managers believe, as the number of stocks in the portfolio grows; ten is better than one, and a hundred is better than ten. *** An index fund, by definition, affords this kind of diversification if the index it mirrors is also diversified, as they usually are. The traditional stock mutual fund, with upward of a hundred stocks constantly in motion, also offers diversification. *** We have all heard this mantra of diversification for so long, we have become intellectually numb to its inevitable consequence: mediocre results. Although it is true that active and index funds offer diversification, in general neither strategy will yield exceptional returns. These are the questions intelligent investors must ask themselves: Am I satisfied with average returns? Can I do better? A NEW CHOICE What does Warren Buffett say about this ongoing debate regarding index versus active strategy? Given these two particular choices, he would unhesitatingly pick indexing. Especially if he were thinking of investors with a very low tolerance for risk, and people who know very little about the economics of a business but still want to participate in the long-term benefits of investing in common stocks. "By periodically investing in an index fund," Buffett says in his inimitable style, "the know-nothing investor can actually outperform most investment professionals." *** Buffett, however, would be quick to point out that there is a third alternative, a very different kind of active portfolio strategy that significantly increases the odds of beating the index. That alternative is focus investing. FOCUS INVESTING: THE BIG PICTURE "Find Outstanding Companies" Over the years, Warren Buffett has developed a way of choosing the companies he considers worthy places to put his money. His choice rests on a notion of great common sense: if the company itself is doing well and is managed by smart people, eventually its inherent value will be reflected in its stock price. Buffett thus devotes most of his attention not to tracking share price but to analyzing the economics of the underlying business and assessing its management. *** This is not to suggest that analyzing the company—uncovering all the information that tells us its economic value—is particularly easy. It does indeed take some work. But Buffett has often remarked that doing this "homework" requires no more energy than is expended in trying to stay on top of the market, and the results are infinitely more useful. *** The analytical process that Buffett uses involves checking each opportunity against a set of investment tenets, or fundamental principles. These tenets, presented in depth in The Warren Buffett Way and summarized on page 8, can be thought of as a kind of tool belt. Each individual tenet is one analytical tool, and, in the aggregate, they provide a method for isolating the companies with the best chance for high economic returns. *** The Warren Buffett tenets, if followed closely, lead you inevitably to good companies that make sense for a focus portfolio. That is because you will have chosen companies with a long history of superior performance and a stable management, and that stability predicts a high probability of performing in the future as they have in the past. And that is the heart of focus investing: concentrating your investments in companies that have the highest probability of above-average performance. *** Probability theory, which comes to us from the science of mathematics, is one of the underlying concepts that make up the rationale for focus investing. In Chapter 6, you will learn more about probability theory and how it applies to investing. For the moment, try the mental exercise of thinking of "good companies" as "high-probability events." Through your analysis, you have already identified companies with a good history and, therefore, good prospects for the future; now, take what you already know and think about it in a different way—in terms of probabilities. "Less Is More" Remember Buffett's advice to a "know-nothing" investor, to stay with index funds? What is more interesting for our purposes is what he said next: *** "If you are a know-something investor, able to understand business economics and to find five to ten sensibly priced companies that possess important long-term competitive advantages, conventional diversification [broadly based active portfolios] makes no sense for you." *** What's wrong with conventional diversification? For one thing, it greatly increases the chances that you will buy something you don't know enough about. "Know-something" investors, applying the Buffett tenets, would do better to focus their attention on just a few companies—"five to ten," Buffett suggests. Others who adhere to the focus philosophy have suggested smaller numbers, even as low as three; for the average investor, a legitimate case can be made for ten to fifteen. Thus, to the earlier question, How many is "a few"? the short answer is: No more than fifteen. More critical than determining the exact number is understanding the general concept behind it. Focus investing falls apart if it is applied to a large portfolio with dozens of stocks. *** Warren Buffett often points to John Maynard Keynes, the British economist, as a source of his ideas. In 1934, Keynes wrote to a business associate: "It is a mistake to think one limits one's risks by spreading too much between enterprises about which one knows little and has no reason for special confidence.... One's knowledge and experience are definitely limited and there are seldom more than two or three enterprises at any given time in which I personally feel myself entitled to put full confidence." Keynes's letter may be the first piece written about focus investing. *** An even more profound influence was Philip Fisher, whose impact on Buffett's thinking has been duly noted. Fisher, a prominent investment counselor for nearly half a century, is the author of two important books: Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits and Paths to Wealth Through Common Stocks, both of which Buffett admires greatly. *** Phil Fisher was known for his focus portfolios; he always said he preferred owning a small number of outstanding companies that he understood well to owning a large number of average ones, many of which he understood poorly. Fisher began his investment counseling business shortly after the 1929 stock market crash, and he remembers how important it was to produce good results. "Back then, there was no room for mistakes," he remembers. "I knew the more I understood about the company the better off I would be." As a general rule, Fisher limited his portfolios to fewer than ten companies, of which three or four often represented 75 percent of the total investment. *** "It never seems to occur to [investors], much less their advisors," he wrote in Common Stocks in 1958, "that buying a company without having sufficient knowledge of it may be even more dangerous than having inadequate diversification." More than forty years later, Fisher, who today is ninety-one, has not changed his mind. "Great stocks are extremely hard to find," he told me. "If they weren't, then everyone would own them. I knew I wanted to own the best or none at all." *** Ken Fisher, the son of Phil Fisher, is also a successful money manager. He summarizes his father's philosophy this way: "My dad's investment approach is based on an unusual but insightful notion that less is more." "Put Big Bets on High-Probability Events" Fisher's influence on Buffett can also be seen in his belief that when you encounter a strong opportunity, the only reasonable course is to make a large investment. Like all great investors, Fisher was very disciplined. In his drive to understand as much as possible about a company, he made countless field trips to visit companies he was interested in. If he liked what he saw, he did not hesitate to invest a significant amount of money in the company. Ken Fisher points out, "My dad saw what it meant to have a large position in something that paid off." *** Today, Warren Buffett echoes that thinking: "With each investment you make, you should have the courage and the conviction to place at least 10 percent of your net worth in that stock." *** You can see why Buffett says the ideal portfolio should contain no more than ten stocks, if each is to receive 10 percent. Yet focus investing is not a simple matter of finding ten good stocks and dividing your investment pool equally among them. Even though all the stocks in a focus portfolio are high-probability events, some will inevitably be higher than others and should be allocated a greater proportion of the investment. *** Blackjack players understand this tactic intuitively: When the odds are strongly in your favor, put down a big bet. In the eyes of many pundits, investors and gamblers have much in common, perhaps because both draw from the same science: mathematics. Along with probability theory, mathematics provides another piece of the focus investing rationale: the Kelly Optimization Model. The Kelly model is represented in a formula that uses probability to calculate optimization—in this case, optimal investment proportion. (The model, along with the fascinating story of how it was originally derived, is presented in Chapter 6.) *** I cannot say with certainty whether Warren Buffett had optimization theory in mind when he bought American Express stock in late 1963, but the purchase is a clear example of the concept—and of Buffett's boldness. During the 1950s and 1960s, Buffett served as general partner in a limited investment partnership in Omaha, Nebraska, where he still lives. The partnership was allowed to take large positions in the portfolio when profitable opportunities arose, and, in 1963, one such opportunity came along. During the infamous Tino de Angelis salad oil scandal, the American Express share price dropped from $65 to $35 when it was thought the company would be held liable for millions of dollars of fraudulent warehouse receipts. Warren invested $13 million—a whopping 40 percent of his partnership's assets—in ownership of close to 5 percent of the shares outstanding of American Express. Over the next two years, the share price tripled, and the Buffett partnership walked away with a $20 million profit. "Be Patient" Focus investing is the antithesis of a broadly diversified, high-turnover approach. Among all active strategies, focus investing stands the best chance of outperforming an index return over time, but it requires investors to patiently hold their portfolio even when it appears that other strategies are marching ahead. In shorter periods, we realize that changes in interest rates, inflation, or the near-term expectation for a company's earnings can affect share prices. But as the time horizon lengthens, the trend-line economics of the underlying business will increasingly dominate its share price. *** How long is that ideal time line? As you might imagine, there is no hard and fast rule (although Buffett would probably say that any span shorter than five years is a fool's theory). The goal is not zero turnover; that would be foolish in the opposite direction because it would prevent you from taking advantage of something better when it comes along. I suggest that, as a general rule of thumb, we should be thinking of a turnover rate between 10 and 20 percent. A 10 percent turnover rate suggests that you would hold the stock for ten years, and a 20 percent rate implies a five-year period. "Don't Panic over Price Changes" Price volatility is a necessary by-product of focus investing. In a traditional active portfolio, broad diversification has the effect of averaging out the inevitable shifts in the prices of individual stocks. Active portfolio managers know all too well what happens when investors open their monthly statement and see, in cold black and white, a drop in the dollar value of their holdings. Even those who understand intellectually that such dips are part of the normal course of events may react emotionally and fall into panic. *** The more diversified the portfolio, the less the chances that any one share-price change will tilt the monthly statement. It is indeed true that broad diversification is a source of great comfort to many investors because it smooths out the bumps along the way. It is also true that a smooth ride is flat. When, in the interests of avoiding unpleasantness, you average out all the ups and downs, what you get is average results. *** Focus investing pursues above-average results. As we will see in Chapter 3, there is strong evidence, both in academic research and actual case histories, that the pursuit is successful. There can be no doubt, however, that the ride is bumpy. Focus investors tolerate the bumpiness because they know that, in the long run, the underlying economics of the companies will more than compensate for any short-term price fluctuations. *** Buffett is a master bump ignorer. So is his longtime friend and colleague Charlie Munger, the vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway. The many fans who devour Berkshire's remarkable annual reports know that the two men support and reinforce each other with complementary and sometimes indistinguishable ideas. Munger's attitudes and philosophy have influenced Buffett every bit as much as Buffett has influenced Munger. *** In the 1960s and 1970s, Munger ran an investment partnership in which, like Buffett at about the same time, he had the freedom to make big bets in the portfolio. His intellectual reasoning for his decisions during those years echoes the principles of focus investing. *** "Back in the 1960s, I actually took a compound interest rate table," explained Charlie, "and I made various assumptions about what kind of edge I might have in reference to the behavior of common stocks generally." (OID) Charlie worked through several scenarios, including the number of stocks he would need in the portfolio and what kind of volatility he could expect. It was a straightforward calculation. *** "I knew from being a poker player that you have to bet heavily when you've got huge odds in your favor," Charlie said. He concluded that as long as he could handle the price volatility, owning as few as three stocks would be plenty. "I knew I could handle the bumps psychologically," he said, "because I was raised by people who believe in handling bumps. So I was an ideal person to adopt my own methodology." (OID) *** Maybe you also come from a long line of people who can handle bumps. But even if you were not born so lucky, you can acquire some of their traits. The first step is to consciously decide to change how you think and behave. Acquiring new habits and thought patterns does not happen overnight, but gradually teaching yourself not to panic and not to act rashly in response to the vagaries of the market is certainly doable. *** You may find some comfort in learning more about the psychology of investing (see Chapter 7); social scientists, working in a field called behavioral finance, have begun to seriously investigate the psychological aspects of the investment phenomenon. You may also find it helpful to use a different measuring stick for evaluating success. If watching stock prices fall gives you heart failure, perhaps it is time to embrace another way of measuring performance, a way that is less immediately piercing but equally valid (even more valid, Buffett would say). That new measurement involves the concept of economic benchmarking, presented in Chapter 4. Focus investing, as we said earlier, is a simple idea that draws its vigor from several interconnecting principles of logic, mathematics, and psychology. With the broad overview of those principles that has been introduced in this chapter, we can now rephrase the basic idea, using wording that incorporates concrete guidelines. *** In summary, the process of focus investing involves these actions: * Using the tenets of the Warren Buffett Way, choose a few (ten to fifteen) outstanding companies that have achieved above-average returns in the past and that you believe have a high probability of continuing their past strong performance into the future. * Allocate your investment funds proportionately, placing the biggest bets on the highest-probability events. * As long as things don't deteriorate, leave the portfolio largely intact for at least five years (longer is better), and teach yourself to ride through the bumps of price volatility with equanimity. A LATTICEWORK OF MODELS Warren Buffett did not invent focus investing. The fundamental rationale was originally articulated more than fifty years ago by John Maynard Keynes. What Buffett did, with stunning success, was apply the rationale, even before he gave it its name. The question that fascinates me is why Wall Street, noted for its unabashed willingness to copy success, has so far disregarded focus investing as a legitimate approach. *** In 1995, we launched Legg Mason Focus Trust, only the second mutual fund to purposely own fifteen (or fewer) stocks. (The first was Sequoia Fund; its story is told in Chapter 3.) Focus Trust has given me the invaluable experience of managing a focus portfolio. Over the past four years, I have had the opportunity to interact with shareholders, consultants, analysts, other portfolio managers, and the financial media, and what I have learned has led me to believe that focus investors operate in a world far different from the one that dominates the investment industry. The simple truth is, they think differently. *** Charlie Munger helped me to understand this pattern of thinking by using the very powerful metaphor of a latticework of models. In 1995, Munger delivered a lecture entitled "Investment Expertise as a Subdivision of Elementary, Worldly Wisdom" to Professor Guilford Babcock's class at the University of Southern California School of Business. The lecture, which was covered in OID, was particularly fun for Charlie because it centered around a topic that he considers especially important: how people achieve true understanding, or what he calls "worldly wisdom." *** A simple exercise of compiling and quoting facts and figures is not enough. Rather, Munger explains, wisdom is very much about how facts align and combine. He believes that the only way to achieve wisdom is to be able to hang life's experience across a broad cross-section of mental models. "You've got to have models in your head," he explained, "and you've got to array your experience—both vicarious and direct—on this latticework of models." (OID) *** The first rule to learn, says Charlie, is that you must carry multiple models in your mind. Not only do you need more than a few, but you need to embrace models from several different disciplines. Becoming a successful investor, he explains, requires a multidiscipline approach to your thinking. *** That approach will put you in a different place from almost everyone else, Charlie points out, because the world is not multidiscipline. Business professors typically don't include physics in their lectures, and physics teachers don't include biology, and biology teachers don't include mathematics, and mathematicians rarely include psychology in their coursework. According to Charlie, we must ignore these "intellectual jurisdictional boundaries" and include all models in our latticework design. *** "I think it is undeniably true that the human brain must work in models," says Charlie. "The trick is to have your brain work better than the other person's brain because it understands the most fundamental models—the ones that will do the most work per unit." *** It is clear to me that focus investing does not fit neatly within the narrowly constructed models popularized and used in our investment culture. To receive the full benefit of the focus approach, we will have to add a few more concepts, a few more models, to our thinking. You will never be content with investing until you understand the behavior models that come from psychology. You will not know how to optimize a portfolio without learning the model of statistical probabilities. And it is likely you will never appreciate the folly of predicting markets until you understand the model of complex adaptive systems. *** This investigation need not be overwhelming. "You don't have to become a huge expert in any one of these fields," explains Charlie. "All you have to do is take the really big ideas and learn them early and learn them well." (OID) The exciting part to this exercise, Charlie points out, is the insight that is possible when several models combine and begin operating in the same direction. *** The most detailed model that focus investors have to learn is the model for picking stocks, and many of you are already familiar with that from The Warren Buffett Way. From here, we need to add just a few more simple models to complete our education: to understand how to assemble those stocks into a portfolio, and how to manage that portfolio so that it yields maximum results well into the future. But we are not alone. We have Warren's and Charlie's wisdom to guide us, and we have their accumulated experience at Berkshire Hathaway. Typically, these two visionaries credit not themselves personally but their organization, which they describe as a "didactic enterprise teaching the right systems of thought, of which the chief lessons are that a few big ideas really work." (OID) *** "Berkshire is basically a very old-fashioned kind of place," Charlie Munger said, "and we try to exert discipline to stay that way. I don't mean old-fashioned stupid. I mean the eternal verities: basic mathematics, basic horse sense, basic fear, basic diagnosis of human nature making possible predictions regarding human behavior. If you just do that with a certain amount of discipline, I think it's likely to work out quite well." (OID) |
How buying and holding could make you more money....
Hi Joseph,
> Is there a simpler way to select stocks that > will rebound. I've been struggling with > William O'Neil system The founder of > investors business daily. I haven't read his book, but I found some info on his CANSLIM system.... Here's a page which summarizes it http://www.equis.com/free/taaz/canslim.html The main thing I can relate to is the "A" part - Annual earnings growth. I also look for companies which grow their profits by a substantial amount every year.... As you may know though, I'm a "buy and hold" type of person, whereas the CANSLIM system seems to be designed for those who want to buy and sell all the time.... I think the danger with always buying and selling (which he might not tell you) is that you're going to pay a lot more in commissions if you're always buying and selling compared to a buy and hold approach. Buying and selling all the time also means you pay tax on your profits every year, rather than at the end (as you would with a buy and hold strategy). That also means more money if you buy and hold.... Let me show this by example. Let's say you have $10,000 to invest, and every year you make a 30% return. Let's say that your profits are taxed at 30% too. Let's look at the constant buy and sell approach.... That means you pay your tax every year (since tax is due when you sell).... Year Your Wealth 0 $10,000 1 $12,100 2 $14,641 3 $17,716 4 $21,436 5 $25,937 6 $31,384 7 $37,975 8 $45,950 9 $55,599 10 $67,275 You've done well, in 10 years you've increased your money more than six-fold with these figures, constantly buying and selling, and paying your tax every year on the profits. Now, let's take the same figures, of making a 30% annual return, and with a 30% tax rate. However, now let's say you're using a buy and hold approach, where you happen to hold the stock for ten years, paying the tax on your profits only after 10 years when you sell it.... Year Your Wealth (pre-tax) 0 $10,000 1 $13,000 2 $16,900 3 $21,970 4 $28,561 5 $37,129 6 $48,268 7 $62,749 8 $81,573 9 $106,045 10 $137,859 In year 10, you sell, which means the tax on your profit is due.... Say that tax comes to 30% too, then your total wealth is Year Your Wealth (after tax) 10 $99,501 As you can see, you've made almost 48% more money (or more than $30,000 better in the above example) by using a buy-and-hold strategy, just because you can pay your tax at the end, rather than all the time you're buying and selling.... Also, by constantly buying and selling, you're always working, whereas with a "buy and hold" approach, you only have to work when you pick the stock.... Then you can forget about it for a while and get on to other things, you don't have to check how it's doing every day.... I try to follow Warren Buffett's approach.... I always like to see people's record to see how they've really done. I don't know precisely how rich O'Neil is, however, I think nowadays (since the tech crash) Buffett is the second richest person in the USA, with a net worth of more than $30 billion. - Dien Rice P.S. If after the above, you still want to be a "daytrader" type, O'Neil could be good.... I also noticed he recommends an 8% stop-loss -- that is, sell the stock if it drops by 8% or more. I have a good friend who's a daytrader, and he's one of the few daytraders I know personally who's ended up with a profit even after the recent market downturn.... This friend of mine uses a strict 10% stop-loss, so making sure you "cut your losses" this way I think is very important if you are going to take the day trading approach.... |
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