Hi Alex,

> Dien, I don't know if you know what these
> guys do now adays but they are friends once
> again and they actually started another
> business on their own helping troubled
> internet businesses get back on their feet.
> They funded the new business using nothing
> but their own credit cards.

I looked more into this out of curiosity - what they are up to now....

And I found this web page. It seems to be a small site maintained by Tom Herman...

http://www.publicdatasystems.com/pds/index.htm

It looks like Kaleil and Tom started up a new company, like you said - Recognition Group. Both Kaleil and Tom seem to be there - click on "Team" - and you 'll see "Kaleil D. Isaza Tuzman" under "Partners" and "Thomas J Herman" under "Affiliates". Tom also seems to be with Interlocken, which was an organization apparently started by his Dad.

If you want Tom Herman's point of view on "lessons learned" from his and Keleil's experience with govWorks.com , read this transcript of a group-discussion with Tom Herman from the Washington Post.

Also click on the "Lessons Learned" link on http://www.publicdatasystems.com/pds/index.htm - however it's a PDF file so you need Adobe Acrobat Reader to read it.

All in all - fascinating stuff. :)

- Dien