> and (often if not usually) can't go back?

> So they have to succeed?

> That close, Michael?

Kinda close.

Remember, not all migrants moved frm place to place during (or after) the war. Not all come from poor countries.

Here's what you often see...

Migrant arrives in new country. Migrant succeeds. Children of migrants - specially ones born in new country - often end up like every other natural born citizen.

Karol's post has some good clues.

Michael Ross