Hi Michael...

When you said...

Maybe this will help you understand TW's stance...on a construction site the other week - dominated by men - a woman rigger was working. A co-worker said to me, "how do you think she'd feel knowing every guy on the site wants to **** her".

...you forgot two words: "...RIGHT NOW."

That is another aspect of the lust/perv factor -- the minute-to-minute, never ending immediacy.

Not after a movie, not after flowers, not after chocolates, not after a candlelit dinner, not after a heart to heart talk -- right now.

All those other things are relationship related -- and for men, that has NOTHING to do with what's "sexy" (which is what this thread is all about)

-- TW