Hi Amber!

I read your post and checked out the site you linked to. ALARM BELLS SOUNDED!

Before I tell you why, first let me say, I am a great advocate of "alternative" treatments.

That doesn't mean I will rush out and buy into the lastest thing. I don't.

I do, however, weigh up the available information and THINK about it.

Without having tried this OLE, let me tell you why alarm bells went off in my head...

The first alarm bells went off when I read this: "We Invented It We Patented It" on the front of their website.

They have a patent?!?!?!?!?

It's funny how any treatment that cannot be patented is looked down upon by the medical profession and the pharmaceutical companies. I wonder why? (insert sarcasm here).

I'll come back to this thing about patents in a bit.

The next alarm bells sounded when I read, "It has been used by over 4,000 doctors, 10 major hospitals, and 15 countries."

I notice is says HAS BEEN and NOT IS. There's a huge difference.

Also, in what capacity was it used? As an actual treatment? As a toilet cleaner?

I can pick any toilet cleaning chemical used in a hospital and then tell people to drink it with the assurance it's used in x number of hositals.

See my point?

Also, are these Doctors who HAD used it medical doctors or non-medical PhDs? Or NDs?

The hospitals... are they government funded hospitals? Private hospitals? Or private "cliniques" using the term Hospital?

WHO are these institutions who HAD used it so I may verify this for myself?

The next alarm bell went off when I read this, "...licensed exclusively by..."

As with the patent I'll come back to this.

The next alarm bell sounded when I read this, "Olive Leaf Extract's Effectiveness Against Certain Pathogens Invitro"

What has being effective against things in a test-tube got to do with being effective against things in the body.

Heck, I could drop of few bugs in 18 molar hydrochloric acid and they'd all die. But that's no reason for me to drink 18 molar hydrochloric acid.

Okay, so my example is over the top. But it uses the same logic as they do. And that's no proof of anything.

The next alarm bell sounded when I saw they claim an effectiveness against HIV/AIDS.

First, AIDS is NOT a bug, pathogen, virus or any other thing. It's a condition.

HIV is a virus. However, the detection of it within the body is only achieved AFTER the body is immune to it.

To say that something we are immune to can create a degenerative condition is idiotic.

And further more, not all sufferers of AIDS test positive for HIV. Which means, they get AIDS from some other source.

Add to this that the HIV/AIDS connection was made on dubious grounds by someone who has a stake in AZT, the only recommened chemical treatment for AIDS, and I question the connection.

It's interesting to note, that like this OLE, AZT is also "licensed" and "patented".

A company that claims to want to help people get better has questionable ethics when they do everything in their power to exclusively own the treatment.

Be the first and be the best instead of trying to prevent others. That is a true sign of your claim to want to help mankind.

To read more about the questionable relation between HIV/AIDS visit Dr Peter Deusberg's site at http://www.duesberg.com/

The next alarm bell sounded when I read their claims about symptoms.

Let me tell you what REALLY happens when you "get sick."

The virus/bacteria enters your body. For the sake of the example, lets assume this is a throat infection.

The Invader lodges into the mucus lining your throat and goes about multiplying in the underlying cells.

This IS detected by your body by what I'll call Hunter-Killers. These Hunter-Killers constantly roam throughout our body looking out for Invaders.

Upon discovering these Invaders they use a shotgun approach and "blast" the entire area in the hopes they get it. And they continue blasting until the Snipers turn up later.

The debris caused by all this blasting has to be cleaned up. Lets call the things that do this, the Cleaners.

As the Cleaners are being overwhelmed by the amount of debris they call for back up. They call for back up by releasing a chemical.

This chemical makes us feel nauseous and gives us aches. This chemical makes us feel sick!!!

At this point in time, our throat is feeling sore. Not because of the bug, but because the Hunter-Killers have damaged it greatly.

While this is going on a call is taken to the Sniper Room (the lymphatic system). Bits of the bug are brought and a Memo is circulated to all T-cells asking if they recognise the Invader.

While this "memo" is circulating looking for the T-cell who recognises and knows how to kill the invader, the Hunter-Killers keep blasting and making our throat more sore, the Cleaners keep clearing debris and calling for back which makes us feel more ill.

Once the Sniper who knows how to kill this Invader is found he is ushered into the Cloning Room (Lymph Gland).

Once inside the Cloning Room our body temperature rises. This does two things. One, it helps slow down the multiplying rate of the Invader and increases our metabolism so Cloning happens faster. (Rising temperature can happen before cloning)

After a sufficient number of Snipers have been cloned (the lymph glands are quite swollen now) they are released to "deal" with the Invader.

As they are Snipers they take out the Invader specifically using a rifle approach and they do it double quick time.

If you have a sore and raspy throat, it's not because your body's immune system isn't working, it's because it is!

If you seem to have it for a while it's beause it's taking a while for the Memo to be found by the Specialist Sniper.

If you ache and feel nauseous, it's your body's doing NOT the Invader's. The Invader would like nothing more than to remain undetected for they know that once deteced they are doomed. So they aren't going to go about doing anything to cause unwanted attention.

If you have a fever, it's because your body is fighting the Invader by raising your body temperature which slows the Invaders ability to mulitply while increasing the speed at which your body multiplies the fighting mechanisms.

The increased body temperature, aches and pains and nauseous feelings are all caused by our body and are a sign our body's immune system is functioning quite well thank you very much.

Doctors don't want you to know this. Otherwise you wouldn't come to them when your throat is sore.

But now you know your throat is sore because your body is fighting something and doing it well, not because something is there overwhelming your body.

So, what these manufactures accuse Doctors of, they are even more guilty of... or they don't know. And if they don't know, I question any health information they provide.

Individually, these things don't mean a whole lot, but when taken together they do...

• Patented treatment.
• Licensed treatment.
• Product which HAS been used not IS used.
• Reluctance to name healing places which use the product so I can verify it myself.
• Reluctance to reveal in what capacity the product was used.
• Lab results only which prove nothing and which are easily duplicated using any harsh chemical.
• No distinction between HIV/AIDS when they are two separate things.
• Implying the symptom is the disease when the symptom is a sign our body is fighting quite well.

Two well known methods for extracting the goodness out of a plant are really the same method - by making a tea or tincture (acoholic). In either case, the goodness leaves the leaf/root and goes into the liquid.

You can therefore make your own Olive Leaf Extract by simple making a tea from olive leaves.

However, a feeling of "wellness" could also be something to be wary of.

Remember, if I feel sick it's because my body is making me sick on purpose. By masking this feeling who knows what I'm doing.

I could be interfering with my body's fighting mechanism and giving the Invader what it longs for... peace and quiet to go about its way.

By examination of my own illnesses over time, and those of my wife, and with correspondence with others... I have discovered a large part of the problem is a result of our modern environment.

For instance... lino and carpet give off fumes and carpet also gives off fibres. If you have a breathing problem of any kind it could be caused by your body's inability to cope with the fumes and fibres from lino/carpet.

You may even be unable to handle the fumes coming from the foam in your sofa, or pillow, or mattress.

Does the windscreen of your car get foggy even when it's not raining? That's the residue of the fumes coming off of your dashboard. Every time you get in your car you breath them in.

Your laminate and 'craftwood' kitchen gives of fumes.

As with a lot of things, our body can handle small doses. But they have a compounding effect.

Lead free fuel is well known to contain cancer causing agents and there's even some evidence to suggest that CFS is related to unleaded fuel, its fumes and exhaust.

If your skin breaks out because of something you've eaten - a "rash" developes. It's a sign your liver cannot filter that substance fast enough. To prevent it from circulating throughout your body, it is stored out of harms way in the skin.

So a skin reaction means two things... 1; your liver cannot filter the substance fast enough for some reason... 2; your body is working correctly by keeping the substance out of the blood while the liver gradually gets rid of it.

The active ingredient in a lot of arthritis relief creams is the same thing that gives a Hot Pepper its heat. Take some Cayeen Powder, make a paste with some vegetable oil and you have your own version of the cream.

Cayenne has many other wonderful properties. You could almost call it Nature's Snake Oil. Do your own research and see for yourself. I use/consume it daily.

You want to increase your immune system's ability to fight things off? Then remove the items in your life that constantly weaken it or have it always on the go - such as the fumey items I mentioned and others you find.

As for bacteria which is resistant to modern anti-biotics...

Research "Colloidal Silver" for a non-patentable OLD method.

Discover the hidden Russian secret of killing resistant bacteria with Phage - naturally-occuring bacterior-specific viri that change as the bacteria changes.

Anyway. That's my take on it.

And Amber, I'm curious about your CFIDS. I did a bit of reading about it at the CFIDS Association of America at http://www.cfids.org/

What I am curious about is... do you recall when you first began to suffer the symptoms?

If so, can you also recall ANY change in your environment? Did you get new furniture around that time? Glue down tiles in a new kitchen? Start driving a car which runs on unleade fuel? Move to a location which could see you exposed to unleaded fuel fumes/exhaust? Move to a location near high-power power lines? Move to a location near a farm which regularly "sprays"? Build an add-on carport or garage in a location that could mean fumes/exhaust from the coming and going of your car would enter your house? Lay down new carpet or lino?

If you can identify any of the above with the beginning of your CFIDS, can you now match up your "attacks" with other exposures to the same thing?

Like, maybe you got an attack after visiting a friend who had recently got new furniture, or something like that.

I'm curious because the symptoms of CFIDS indicate to me an overall overwhelming of the body. And that can only happen by constant exposure to something your body cannot handle very well.

If you cannot immediately identify a connection, have you ever kept an "Attack diary"? A diary which keeps track of the things (chemicals/fumes/etc.) you're exposed to and cross-references those exposures with times of attack.

I'd rather discover the sofa I keep getting recovered every twelve months is making me sick and get rid of it, then not know and mask the symptoms with a suppliment.

Anyway Amber. I'm really curious if you can match a change in your enviroment with your CFIDS. I'm curious because I believe that's where the cause and your solution is. And it'd be a real shame to suffer needlessly when the answer could be so simple. Wouldn't it be incredible if all you had to do was change the brand of washing powder you use? (washing powder leaves residue on the clothes which gets onto and absorbs through your skin)

Of course, I understand if you'd rather not disclose details of your CFIDS.

From thorough analysis of my environment I've been able to find a direct connection between breathing problems I had and later foot problems, with lino! And that's just one example.

By the way, I am NOT a licensed medical practitioner and have no formal qualifications in the field of medicine. Everything written here is my opinion based from the deductions and conclusions from my own research and experiences.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Good luck Amber. I hope you get to the bottom of it.

Michael Ross.