Hugh,
A lot of people who allow others like John Reed to tell them how they should think bash Carleton sheets but like you said the course he sells is more than enough to buy your first house with no money down.
I bought the course about three years ago and within 6 months bought 2 properties using the information contained in the Sheets course.
Some people would rather listen to a failed RE investor like Reed than see for themselves though.

Your assesment of Creonline.com is correct also. An excellent site. Reed doesn't like them either though!

Gary Turney

> Adam,

> A friend loaned me his Carlon Sheets course
> about 5 years ago. At the time, I knew
> nothing about real estate. I learned enough
> from Carlton's materials to be able to buy
> my first house.

> Then, about 6 months ago, a friend and I
> bought some Ron LeGrand materials. Very good
> stuff, BUT...

> In my opinion, the VERY BEST way to learn
> real estate is to first get some basic RE
> books and get a grounding in the basic
> principles. And at the same time, go to the
> CREonline main forum daily (that's what I've
> been doing --- and I've learned volumes
> there). There ARE lots of newbie questions,
> yes, and that's actually GREAT, because
> there are many seasoned investors there who
> give accurate, caring advice that quickly
> builds one's RE knowledge base.

> Try it, and you'll see...if you want to
> learn the RE game, spend a few days at the
> forum, learn who the good-guy posters are,
> and I guarantee you'll REALLY appreciate
> that site in short order.

> http://

> ---- Hugh