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Old August 19, 2019, 03:02 PM
Dien Rice Dien Rice is offline
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Default The details of why Return of the Jedi still hasn't yet made a profit!

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Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post
VooDoo economics comes into play. Could be from Sales (Box office plus other, which is in itself a whole nuther level), or from PROFITS, or from Gross here and there, or from after investor payouts, or a lot of other things.

SO, my YIKES, this morning.

I want to sell my scripts, for sure, but I'd like to participate in the "manufacturing Process" of a few of them, especially a TV show, and one of my stories, MAD MARY, NIGHT WOLF.

Selling a script can be pretty straight forward, it is IP, bought and sold all the time, it is when you get into the BACK ENDS of things, that it gets difficult.
Hi Gordon,

I've read a little bit about Hollywood's "voodoo economics"...

Apparently getting a percentage of the PROFITS is not a good thing to do, because they can wave their voodoo wand (is there such a thing?) and make those profits disappear... So they don't have to pay you anything, if you have a percentage-of-the-profits deal, when the profits are zero...

Apparently, the thing to do is to get a percentage of the GROSS REVENUE (or equivalent), or something measurable which is much harder for them to change...

Profit is Revenue minus Expenses.

Where they can make the profits magically disappear is by adding to the expenses... Like the marketing budget. A great one is having to pay a lot for intellectual property rights.

Let's say Disney makes a Mickey Mouse movie. They may have Company 1 to make the movie, but another separate Company 2 owns the rights to Mickey Mouse.

If they get Company 2 to charge a ridiculously HUGE amount for Company 1 to use the IP rights to Micky Mouse, they're able to magically transfer all those profits from Company 1 to Company 2. That means, if you're being paid a percentage of the profits, it's... "Sorry man, we can't pay you. The movie made a huge loss!"

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix was the sixth highest grossing movie of all time at the end of its run. However... it made a $167 million dollar loss!

The third Star Wars movie, Return of the Jedi, still hasn't made a profit!

The producers of the 1989 movie Batman didn't get paid a cent (until they went to court), because they had a pure percentage-of-the-profits deal... Warner Bros had waved their accounting wand to make the profits disappear... (They eventually settled out of court.)

A great article to read on this is Hollywood accounting on Wikipedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting

Best wishes,

Dien
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