My case study.

[GordonJ]

Too much "sleight of hand" for me in Sports Gambling...never play anything where human element has a say. With machines, unless they are tampered with, one has the fairest chance, still slim.

You do have destination and casinos there, a huge business. What happened to most of those hotsheets for the lottery, went online and became virtual products. I too once store to store, but that was a long time ago.

Today, it has to be automated. Gambling is one of the world's biggest businesses, a multi billion, even a Trillion dollar world wide industry.

Playing lottery is a hobby, one for me, that replaced golf and while neither one cost me much money, because I came out ahead...both of those recreational activities could be very costly.

But with this new thing coming to Ohio, it is all about the TOOLS TO THE MINERS.

I think an Insiders Guide to the Ozarks is a good info idea. The TV show with Jason Bateman about the Ozarks gave your area a lot of free attention too, why, even some Ohioans are apt to visit now and again, HA!

Tools to miners. That is really what this is all about, Sports Betting just a gravy train coming down my tracks.

Gordon

Originally Posted by Millard Grubb

Was not aware of the Ohio sports betting program being set up. Of course, here in the Ozarks we don't think much about what is going on in Ohio.

I did get caught up in the big Megaball frenzy with the over 1 billion dollar jackpot and bought a couple of tickets. Seems like someone from my wife's old neighborhood won the big prize !

Your discussion made me think about the lottery in general. With all the service stations, grocery stores, retail stores, etc., selling lottery tickets, a hot sheet might work for them. I don't like the idea of going business to business, personally to offer any hotshots, but a sales person could do the job.

I seem to remember a few websites that offer weekly "tips" or reports on whatever lottery is going at the moment... yet even those that I saw seemed more "luck" based than statistics. Some years ago, Gail Howard had a book about creating tickets with "key" digits. Even Steve Player's "Win" book (out-of-print) seems to be so valuable, that it is almost impossible to find unless you pay thousands for it.

With all this interest in winning just the lotto... I am sure sports betting is just as big. The lottery seems to be for the common man, whereas sports betting may be a step up. Ha ! I really don't know since I never bet on any sports game or horse race ever.

[Dien Rice]

Hi Gordon,

I think one big difference is, when they have a report ("done for them"), they have an asset they can sell for years to come, even for decades...

With this other marketer I'm referring to - I guess one asset his customers will have is the "created for you" email list.

But, if I remember right, that done-for-you email list was only going to have I think 50 people on it... It wasn't going to be very large...

An email lists also get "stale" after a while... People's email addresses change, or their interests change...

(Oh, and when I said he would "provide the product that you sell" - I meant that his customers would be selling the product as an affiliate... they wouldn't own the product themselves...)

However, having said that, I sent out an email a few weeks ago, and I made some sales. I went through some of the sales out of curiosity... I saw one guy had subscribed to my email list on 30 June, 2008 (I just looked it up now again to confirm)...

...and this was his first purchase! Wow... That's quite a while... a 14-year gap between subscribing and buying!

Maybe that's an indictment of me as a marketer! Though I'm also pleased that he was apparently happy to stay on my email list for 14 years... and keep reading!

(I do my best to try to keep things fascinating - and also useful - for the reader... )

Best wishes,

Dien

Originally Posted by GordonJ

Since I have very recently offered a done for you program (information product, promotion, even an AUTOMATIC PRODUCT VENDING site)...I have to say, I reject about 8 out of 10.

Sure, I can do it for you, out of the gate. To get you started. THEN WHAT?

And this is where I have to leave most behind. Because they don't know what they want, and lack a plan of action, the whole done for you idea only gets the rock rolling...but if it is up a hill, one can expect Sisyphus results.

I don't know who you are referring to, but I guarantee, in the end of the day, he/she is making more from doing it for you, than you are making.

DFY, is a leverage, but the long game needs continuous activity, and some of that just can't be done by anyone but you.

Gordon

[GordonJ]

Dien, Just the fact you've had an email list and have been mailing them for that long, puts you head and shoulders above many out there.

I think you have some great STORED VALUE, on the whole how to front, you can bring to the market, and you have some bought/hidden assets to make that a relatively quick and easy thing to do.

Maybe now that he has become a customer, his wallet will open up and a deluge will follow...just don't bank on it, ok?

Gordon

Originally Posted by Dien Rice

Hi Gordon,

I think one big difference is, when they have a report ("done for them"), they have an asset they can sell for years to come, even for decades...

With this other marketer I'm referring to - I guess one asset his customers will have is the "created for you" email list.

But, if I remember right, that done-for-you email list was only going to have I think 50 people on it... It wasn't going to be very large...

An email lists also get "stale" after a while... People's email addresses change, or their interests change...

(Oh, and when I said he would "provide the product that you sell" - I meant that his customers would be selling the product as an affiliate... they wouldn't own the product themselves...)

However, having said that, I sent out an email a few weeks ago, and I made some sales. I went through some of the sales out of curiosity... I saw one guy had subscribed to my email list on 30 June, 2008 (I just looked it up now again to confirm)...

...and this was his first purchase! Wow... That's quite a while... a 14-year gap between subscribing and buying!

Maybe that's an indictment of me as a marketer! Though I'm also pleased that he was apparently happy to stay on my email list for 14 years... and keep reading!

(I do my best to try to keep things fascinating - and also useful - for the reader... )

Best wishes,

Dien

[GordonJ]

The NFL has been consumed by Deshaun Watson this past off season and now the commissioner is appealing a ruling for a six game suspension.

The Browns, on paper, just as they were last year...have a solid top tier roster, and last year Baker Mayfield took most of the blame for its less than stellar season.

Now, they are loaded with talent...and yet, their franchise record setting QB, may not even play this season...and that has Books in a tizzy.

I think, just from preseason scuttlebutt, that the Browns and their games will have very tight margins, most to an even bet, because they need to see the team perform on the field.

Amazing how one man can upset the league, be headline news for months and still not have the issue resolved...although, I am a long suffering fan, if Watson does get to play this season, I'll be rooting for the Bengals.

What does one fan LOSS mean for the Browns? Nothing. The haslams just raise their gas price a cent or two to cover any fan losses.

Anyhow, Watson is more confusing than Jimmy G out there in "Frisco" (yea, I know, you CITY dwellers hate it when we call you that).

Gordon

[GordonJ]

Deshaun Watson, over for now, as far as playing the first part of the season, and almost instantly, the line moved on the Browns from contender to also ran...and it is changing daily.

The whole episode has made me become more of a Bengals fan at this point, and my early Browns prediction is....INJURY after INJURY, and a very disappointing season again. But wait til next year when superman comes back to play at QB and all Cleveland Fans (minus me) will forget and forgive.

Anyhow, as Ohio gears up for the coming Tsunami of sports betting, it is a good time to get it under your belt, if you are going to be involved.


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