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Old September 30, 2000, 01:33 AM
elizabeth aqui-seto
 
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Default Re: Women don't belong on the INTERNET...let's get rid of them.

Gordon, very clever headline. I like it.

>Truth is, we NEED more women on the Internet.

I know that you probably know this. But just in case, I recently came across an aritcle at newsusa.com, excerpts I've cut and pasted. The article was not dated, but I can only assume it was written in 2000. However, I also found another article over the last couple weeks, actually giving the figure of female users at 55%. Unfortunately, I didn't save the article or remember the source.

Women Pass Men on The Internet Wave

"Did you know women now make up the majority of Internet users? It's true - for the first time, women this year accounted for 50 percent of online users, which has them surfing the Internet wave right past men, who make up 49 percent of all users.

The number of women age 55 and over more than doubled to 3 million visitors in the last year. That's significant, when you consider that until now, the Internet has been primarily a male-dominated tool. Now, women online are in proportion with their numbers in the general population, which is 51 percent."

>I find them to be more honest, less full of hype, and a lot of the time deliver much better information than >their male counterparts.

Again I have to agree and I genuinely believe that I CAN be objective when I say this. I actually have equally as many or perhaps slight more male business contacts than female, but I find those female contacts that I do have, really don't go for a lot of hype. We really tell it like it is and are still able to influence by being honest.

And while we're on the subject, one of my pet peeves is people who post to public forums and don't know when to 'put a lid on it.' I can't speak for all women on this issue, but I personally have no problems admitting when I'm wrong, or backing off when I encounter a no-win situation. I find some men often feel they need to prove a point or be seen as always right. My feelings always are, in the final analysis, who really cares and why is it so important to be seen as the winner?

My favourite line in a no-win situation is "I never argue when I know I'm right." I've never tried this line in an online situation, unless I know the person fairly well. But, I've tried this with family and friends, and it always leaves them so stumped and amazed, the argument usually ends in an uproar of laughter.

Regards,
Elizabeth
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Old September 30, 2000, 10:56 AM
Julie Jordan Scott
 
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Default Re: Women don't belong on the INTERNET...let's get rid of them.

> Gordon, very clever headline. I like it.

****Yes, me too, it reminded me of our first interaction.

> The number of women age 55 and over more
> than doubled to 3 million visitors in the
> last year.

****Sort of off the subject, but one of the areas that really interest me are the number of retirees who are now on line. My father LOVES using the internet. He and I have communicated more via email than we have in the last 38 years any other way! And my Mom is learning to type. Amazing.

> I actually have equally as many or
> perhaps slight more male business contacts
> than female

****What I realized the other day is I have MANY more male business contacts than female. This concerns me AND inspires me. There is LOTS of room for growth for women, and I am privileged to mentor women as well...as for me it has been primarily men who are mentoring me.

> but I find those female
> contacts that I do have, really don't go for
> a lot of hype. We really tell it like it is
> and are still able to influence by being
> honest.

****Elizabeth and all, have you read "The Princessa" by Harriet Rubin? I started re-reading it yesterday when a (male) friend of mine got me thinking on the topic of Women in Leadership. It is a fascinating read for both men and women, and I highly recommend it. It is "sort of" a Machiavelli for women, but it recognizes the power not of winning, but rather of besting....get the book and READ it for more of an explanation. It rings true to my very core.

> My favourite line in a no-win situation is
> "I never argue when I know I'm
> right." I've never tried this line in
> an online situation, unless I know the
> person fairly well. But, I've tried this
> with family and friends, and it always
> leaves them so stumped and amazed, the
> argument usually ends in an uproar of
> laughter.

****Spoken like a Princessa, Elizabeth!

Women are learning more and more to behave powerfully not in the mold of men and male leadership styles, but using methods wholly female and womanly. Up to this point, most of our models for leadership have been men, so we have used the male model. It is an exciting time for us and for our daughters. Much of what I work towards in this area is with my three daughters in mind.

Has anyone seen "Remembering the Titans" yet? It opened yesterday with Denzel Washington in the lead. A powerful film about times within my lifetime. In fact, I am exactly the same age as one of the main characters who was 9 when the movie was mostly framed. I thought about what the movie said about civil rights and relationships between ethnic groups. My comment though, was "This would not have happened in a girls sport, not in 1971 and not today."

I need to "steep" on this topic some more....like a cup of tea, my thoughts are getting richer and more vibrant as I sit with them.

With Purpose and Passion,

JULIE




Dare to Discover Your Passion, Dare to Change Your Life!
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Old September 30, 2000, 01:51 PM
elizabeth aqui-seto
 
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Default Re: Women don't belong on the INTERNET...let's get rid of them.

Julie, as always, a very inspiring reply.

> ****Elizabeth and all, have you read
> "The Princessa" by Harriet Rubin?
> I started re-reading it yesterday when a

No, I haven't read the book. I guess I'll have to call my local Chapters store to see if it's in stock. Lately, since finding so much information online, I seldom buy any hard copies of books. Wonder if it's available as an electronic download.

> Has anyone seen "Remembering the
> Titans" yet? It opened yesterday with
> Denzel Washington in the lead. A powerful
> film about times within my lifetime. In

and I guess I'll have to keep an eye on the movie listings to see when this one comes to TO. You know, it's been a good two years since I've been to the movies. Denzel Washington is one of my favourite actors, so I'll have to make an effort to see him on the big screen rather than waiting for the video to come out.
Best regards,

Eliz.
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Old September 30, 2000, 05:56 PM
Dien Rice
 
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Default Women and men in business....

Hiya Elizabeth,

> I can't speak for all women on this
> issue, but I personally have no problems
> admitting when I'm wrong, or backing off
> when I encounter a no-win situation. I find
> some men often feel they need to prove a
> point or be seen as always right. My
> feelings always are, in the final analysis,
> who really cares and why is it so important
> to be seen as the winner?

Elizabeth... Actually, I agree with you.... My impressions are that men, in general, tend to often be competing with each other and trying to "best" each other.... To some men, almost everything is a competition....

My impression is that women are more focused in doing what needs to be done and building the right relationships, and sometimes all this emphasis on "competition" men often have can actually get in the way.... Especially in business. I think good business is about long-term relationships, and many women in general are good at that....

I don't remember now exactly where I read it, but I read somewhere that significantly more businesses started by women succeed their first couple of years than businesses started by men. I'll have to see if I can find any statistics.... If that's accurate, then men definitely need to be learning something from women! Clearly the more relationship-orientation of women is something men ought to learn from....

I find this whole topic fascinating, actually....

> My favourite line in a no-win situation is
> "I never argue when I know I'm
> right." I've never tried this line in
> an online situation, unless I know the
> person fairly well. But, I've tried this
> with family and friends, and it always
> leaves them so stumped and amazed, the
> argument usually ends in an uproar of
> laughter.

Heheh, Elizabeth.... That sounds like an excellent reply. There's no way to answer to that! :)

I loved your post! :)

Dien
 


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