SOWPub Small Business Forums  
 

Click Here to see the latest posts!

Ask any questions related to business / entrepreneurship / money-making / life
or share your success stories (and educational "failures")...

Sign up for the Hidden Business Ideas Letter Free edition, and receive a free report straight to your inbox: "Idea that works in a pandemic: Ordinary housewife makes $50,000 a month in her spare time, using a simple idea - and her driveway..."

NO BLATANT ADS PLEASE
Also, please no insults or personal attacks.
Feel free to link to your web site though at the end of your posts.

Stay up to date! Get email notifications or
get "new thread" feeds here

 

Go Back   SOWPub Small Business Forums > Main Category > SOWPub Business Forum
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

SOWPub Business Forum Seeds of Wisdom Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 22, 2017, 09:49 AM
GordonJ's Avatar
GordonJ GordonJ is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 3,471
Default Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

My latest is nearing completion: For Content/Copy Writers:

HOW TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION IN YOUR TARGET'S SUBCONSCIOUS MIND: Where real persuasion and influence occur.

It was the great Robert Collier who wrote; "...enter the conversation taking place in the customer's mind."

It is one of the most quoted copywriting mantras out there, but few can tell you how.

HOW?

It has to do with the SELF-SCHEMA AND Primary Preoccupations. To my knowledge I'm the only person teaching the use of a pre occupational interrupter.

I believe attention is rapidly becoming harder to get and hold, in the selling process. Anyhow, all this is covered in the work.

I have several choices, could do a VIDEO, although I'm not fond of doing them OR watching them, an audio you can load on your phone and go stepping off your daily exercise, OR

do my usual PDF. But I'd like some feedback.

Which way would your prefer to receive this new information?

Thanks for your input.

Gordon

PS. This is not for the weak, it talks candidly about manipulating emotional states and agitating deep fears and stimulating buried ideas. It will not be for everyone.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old June 22, 2017, 12:07 PM
sandalwood
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post
My latest is nearing completion: For Content/Copy Writers:

HOW TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION IN YOUR TARGET'S SUBCONSCIOUS MIND: Where real persuasion and influence occur.

It was the great Robert Collier who wrote; "...enter the conversation taking place in the customer's mind."

It is one of the most quoted copywriting mantras out there, but few can tell you how.

HOW?

It has to do with the SELF-SCHEMA AND Primary Preoccupations. To my knowledge I'm the only person teaching the use of a pre occupational interrupter.

I believe attention is rapidly becoming harder to get and hold, in the selling process. Anyhow, all this is covered in the work.

I have several choices, could do a VIDEO, although I'm not fond of doing them OR watching them, an audio you can load on your phone and go stepping off your daily exercise, OR

do my usual PDF. But I'd like some feedback.

Which way would your prefer to receive this new information?

Thanks for your input.

Gordon

PS. This is not for the weak, it talks candidly about manipulating emotional states and agitating deep fears and stimulating buried ideas. It will not be for everyone.

It appears your subconscious mind is against video and maybe even audio. If that is true, that leaves only pdf. Me, I'm a fan of pdf so there you have it - my vote is pdf.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old June 22, 2017, 12:50 PM
GordonJ's Avatar
GordonJ GordonJ is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 3,471
Default Re: Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sandalwood View Post
It appears your subconscious mind is against video and maybe even audio. If that is true, that leaves only pdf. Me, I'm a fan of pdf so there you have it - my vote is pdf.

Yea, I think the pdf is a given, audio probably, video, not to sure. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old June 22, 2017, 12:11 PM
BenjaminS
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post
My latest is nearing completion: For Content/Copy Writers:

HOW TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION IN YOUR TARGET'S SUBCONSCIOUS MIND: Where real persuasion and influence occur.

It was the great Robert Collier who wrote; "...enter the conversation taking place in the customer's mind."

It is one of the most quoted copywriting mantras out there, but few can tell you how.

HOW?

It has to do with the SELF-SCHEMA AND Primary Preoccupations. To my knowledge I'm the only person teaching the use of a pre occupational interrupter.

I believe attention is rapidly becoming harder to get and hold, in the selling process. Anyhow, all this is covered in the work.

I have several choices, could do a VIDEO, although I'm not fond of doing them OR watching them, an audio you can load on your phone and go stepping off your daily exercise, OR

do my usual PDF. But I'd like some feedback.

Which way would your prefer to receive this new information?

Thanks for your input.

Gordon

PS. This is not for the weak, it talks candidly about manipulating emotional states and agitating deep fears and stimulating buried ideas. It will not be for everyone.

Personally, I would like an audio version and a pdf. I like the audio version like you said because you can listen to it on the go but I also like the text because I can highlight instead of writing down notes which is way quicker. Having both would make it easier to study for people who like going over material multiple times.

Another thought I had while reading this is perhaps an audio with a short study guide or work book instead of transcribing the whole audio.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old June 22, 2017, 12:49 PM
GordonJ's Avatar
GordonJ GordonJ is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 3,471
Default Re: Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenjaminS View Post
Personally, I would like an audio version and a pdf. I like the audio version like you said because you can listen to it on the go but I also like the text because I can highlight instead of writing down notes which is way quicker. Having both would make it easier to study for people who like going over material multiple times.

Another thought I had while reading this is perhaps an audio with a short study guide or work book instead of transcribing the whole audio.
Maybe a hotsheet or infograpic? Yea, that's a good idea. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 22, 2017, 01:48 PM
SecretAgentMan
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

Gordon,

I think the audio and PDF will be the best, also.

Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 23, 2017, 05:50 AM
GreggP
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Video? Audio? PDF? Quick survey for NEW work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post
My latest is nearing completion: For Content/Copy Writers:

HOW TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION IN YOUR TARGET'S SUBCONSCIOUS MIND: Where real persuasion and influence occur.

It was the great Robert Collier who wrote; "...enter the conversation taking place in the customer's mind."

It is one of the most quoted copywriting mantras out there, but few can tell you how.

HOW?

It has to do with the SELF-SCHEMA AND Primary Preoccupations. To my knowledge I'm the only person teaching the use of a pre occupational interrupter.

I believe attention is rapidly becoming harder to get and hold, in the selling process. Anyhow, all this is covered in the work.

I have several choices, could do a VIDEO, although I'm not fond of doing them OR watching them, an audio you can load on your phone and go stepping off your daily exercise, OR

do my usual PDF. But I'd like some feedback.

Which way would your prefer to receive this new information?

Thanks for your input.

Gordon

PS. This is not for the weak, it talks candidly about manipulating emotional states and agitating deep fears and stimulating buried ideas. It will not be for everyone.

If it’s possible, I would prefer to have the information drip-fed in either daily or weekly emails. Each email could contain “exercises” or “assignments” that wouldn’t need to be submitted, but would be used to make the concepts more concrete for those who chose to do them.

Drip-feeding would force me to slow down and consider each concept more thoroughly rather than just reading from cover to cover in one sitting and moving on to the next book in the stack.

Just my two cents.

Gregg
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old June 23, 2017, 09:51 AM
GordonJ's Avatar
GordonJ GordonJ is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 3,471
Default Here is my thing. And maybe I need affiliates???

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreggP View Post
If it’s possible, I would prefer to have the information drip-fed in either daily or weekly emails. Each email could contain “exercises” or “assignments” that wouldn’t need to be submitted, but would be used to make the concepts more concrete for those who chose to do them.

Drip-feeding would force me to slow down and consider each concept more thoroughly rather than just reading from cover to cover in one sitting and moving on to the next book in the stack.

Just my two cents.

Gregg

Gregg, there was a time I'd consider this. Just too busy. BUT. you got me pondering.

And just thinking out loud, and top of head...maybe,

Just maybe this is a project best done by someone else.

IT is, I guess a good dilemma to have...but there is so much of my stuff, old and tested and proven, and new and never heard, which can't get my attention.

I'm like the old woman in the shoe with so many kids,
she didn't know what to do.

I've got so many creative babies in their cribs, up on the shelf, and sitting in the corner, it would be easy to fly through the day just trying to acknowledge them all.

Now, Copywriting is HOT market, tons of stuff being sold. Very little of it is this advanced, Colin Theriot started an advanced study Facebook Group but he is a victim of his own success, hard to find the gold nuggets in his group anymore.

But, his 26,000+ members show an interest. There are now tens of thousands of wannabee copywriters, and not that many reaching the big money level as a Freelancer, very few in fact.

HOW TO ENTER THE TARGET'S CONVERSATION IN THEIR SUB CONSCIOUS MIND,

would be better suited to DRIP. I like the idea of having someone at least grasp and apply a principle as opposed to getting dumped on with a slurry of ideas.

What would that look like? How would be the best way to drip it?

Alas, even time to teach someone else how to teach it, would be hard for me to find.

I think I need a few people who want to take the ball and run with it, I'd be happy to be an affiliate paid from profits. Everything from SQ1 to Modern Chatteling has course/drip/membership potential along with stand alone APV sites and content creation.

I like your idea, but, it probably is outside of my abilities at this time.

Gordon

PS. Always open to ideas or even possible take overs of products/projects I own.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old June 23, 2017, 11:47 PM
BenjaminS
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Here is my thing. And maybe I need affiliates???

Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post
Gregg, there was a time I'd consider this. Just too busy. BUT. you got me pondering.

And just thinking out loud, and top of head...maybe,

Just maybe this is a project best done by someone else.

IT is, I guess a good dilemma to have...but there is so much of my stuff, old and tested and proven, and new and never heard, which can't get my attention.

I'm like the old woman in the shoe with so many kids,
she didn't know what to do.

I've got so many creative babies in their cribs, up on the shelf, and sitting in the corner, it would be easy to fly through the day just trying to acknowledge them all.

Now, Copywriting is HOT market, tons of stuff being sold. Very little of it is this advanced, Colin Theriot started an advanced study Facebook Group but he is a victim of his own success, hard to find the gold nuggets in his group anymore.

But, his 26,000+ members show an interest. There are now tens of thousands of wannabee copywriters, and not that many reaching the big money level as a Freelancer, very few in fact.

HOW TO ENTER THE TARGET'S CONVERSATION IN THEIR SUB CONSCIOUS MIND,

would be better suited to DRIP. I like the idea of having someone at least grasp and apply a principle as opposed to getting dumped on with a slurry of ideas.

What would that look like? How would be the best way to drip it?

Alas, even time to teach someone else how to teach it, would be hard for me to find.

I think I need a few people who want to take the ball and run with it, I'd be happy to be an affiliate paid from profits. Everything from SQ1 to Modern Chatteling has course/drip/membership potential along with stand alone APV sites and content creation.

I like your idea, but, it probably is outside of my abilities at this time.

Gordon

PS. Always open to ideas or even possible take overs of products/projects I own.


What would you think about picking a random project off of your shelf and opening the door for 5-10 people to purchase it raw and to send you what they would do with it and you could start working with the ones that are up to your satisfaction of quality.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old June 24, 2017, 02:04 PM
GordonJ's Avatar
GordonJ GordonJ is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 3,471
Default Re: Here is my thing. And maybe I need affiliates???

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenjaminS View Post
What would you think about picking a random project off of your shelf and opening the door for 5-10 people to purchase it raw and to send you what they would do with it and you could start working with the ones that are up to your satisfaction of quality.

One problem, already encountered, is...once it is off the shelf that many times, it will never get back on it. In the past, I let people write copy and either split or gave them all the sales THEIR copy made, when rotated for the same traffic, never having very good results.

Also had a limited number of affiliates and most did little to nothing to help themselves out.

Dien and I preach and practice TOLL and Control, with most of our offline projects never getting discussed here. After 18 years, a person with a vested interest whom is educable, and willing to invest in him self has been our sweet spot.

But, consider this:

I've revealed a NEW PRODUCT, which can take several forms:

HOW TO ENTER THE CONVERSATION IN YOUR TARGET'S SUBCONSCIOUS MIND:
Where real persuasion and influence occur.

Markets: Content and Copywriters to start. Remote influencers.

It could be considered an advanced technique of the hidden persuaders variety, even covert or psychological. Depending on market segment, and the more advanced, the higher the cost would be.

It goes into detail regarding PRE OCCUPATIONS, which are for the most part glossed over. AND yet, they are THE SECRET to rapid influence, working via a by-pass of the conscious doubting mind.

So, there is a product. I'll be happy to give either outlines or even a mock up table of contents to ANYONE willing to write a promotion for a specific identified target market.

But before you start, work up a short 3-5 paragraph market analysis, can this be a sustainable product with back ends, consider LTV Customer Acquisition.

So instead of spending any money, I'm asking for spending OF THOUGHT. The overview. Business plan type thinking. How much could being the exclusive owner of THIS product be worth to anyone, who develops a plan and is willing to execute the THINKING behind it. Worth far more than money to me.

And this is just one of many products I don't have time to do. I have sold off a ton of my prior work, and that is good, for me, but I'd rather GIVE the new stuff away to a motivated person who is willing to make it a valuable asset for both of us. Motivation over money for me.

Money is pretty easy to come by, WHEN one focuses on that as an outcome of one's focused action.

Gordon Jay Alexander
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Other recent posts on the forum...


Seeds of Wisdom Publishing (front page) | Seeds of Wisdom Business forum | Seeds of Wisdom Original Business Forum (Archive) | Hidden Unusual Business Ideas Newsletter | Hotsheet Profits | Persuade via Remote Influence | Affia Band | The Entrepreneur's Hotsheet | The SeedZine (Entrepreneurial Ezine)

Get the report on Harvey Brody's Answers to a Question-Oriented-Person


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.