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Old April 26, 2017, 07:12 PM
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Default Questions from a QOP, a question oriented person:

1.) Chattel or flipping in general. I was going to ask if you considered doing an updated course on chattel, but I just read your post about maybe not writing anymore reports. If you decide to, I think a new chattel course would be well received. No one else really writes about it.
2.) Importing and exporting. A lot of marketers and "gurus" are selling info about importing products(usually from China) and selling them at their online stores(e-commerce). Do you have any thoughts or recommendations on this topic? Or importing/exporting in general?
3.) Writing for profit, or even to make a living- travel writing, e-books, copy writing, self publishing, etc.
In the last ten years or so, I've noticed a lot of marketers selling courses, membership to sites, e-books, webinars about writing for profit. A lot of the promotion is about becoming a copywriter. I'm really not interested in becoming a freelance copywriter until I can write copy for my own products, and even then probably wouldn't have much interest. I believe Jim Straw addressed the issue of freelance copy writing by saying that before you charge others to write copy you should be able to write good copy for your own products. Plus, there's so many copywriters out there already-both wannabes & pros.
4.) Additional fly low type businesses or activities that you may not have mentioned very much on your forum.
5.) How to profit from liquidations, surplus, and closeouts.
6.) Investments- stocks, real estate, notes, ...
7.) Any other sites, forums, authors, courses that are similar to your fly low approach.
8.) Anyone like Jim Straw, Melvin Powers, Dean Duvall, etc that is still active that you recommend.
9.) Your favorite self improvement/motivational books/Cd's, sites, authors, etc.

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Old April 27, 2017, 05:32 AM
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have any input, feel free to share.

These from my email:

From a Question Oriented Person:

1.) Chattel or flipping in general. I was going to ask if you considered doing an updated course on chattel, but I just read your post about maybe not writing anymore reports. If you decide to, I think a new chattel course
would be well received. No one else really writes about it.

3.) Writing for profit, or even to make a living- travel writing, e-books, copy writing, self publishing, etc.

5.) How to profit from liquidations, surplus, and closeouts.

As said, I'll post up my responses, but if you have something to share, please do.

Gordon

I'm assuming the QOP is planning to choose ONE from that list!

I recommend the QOP should first go through this GordonJ post to get a clear view of what positive end-result he needs.

That will help him reverse-engineer to what he needs to be doing today.

I highly recommend both The Chattel Report and HOTSHEETS to get a certain MINDSET about how the real business world works.

The mindset is more important than the methods; with the wrong mindset, someone can easily saw off his fingers even with the RIGHT tools.

Cheers

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Old April 27, 2017, 08:09 AM
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I'm assuming the QOP is planning to choose ONE from that list!

I recommend the QOP should first go through this GordonJ post to get a clear view of what positive end-result he needs.

That will help him reverse-engineer to what he needs to be doing today.

I highly recommend both The Chattel Report and HOTSHEETS to get a certain MINDSET about how the real business world works.

The mindset is more important than the methods; with the wrong mindset, someone can easily saw off his fingers even with the RIGHT tools.

Cheers

Yes, it could be interpreted as, "this guy is all over the place" or, he needs to focus. But, there could be other motives or reasons behind his questions.

Recently, you found the Chase Revel thread, and I pointed out he built Entrepreneur from his INSIDER REPORTS, where he "investigated" businesses and gave us the inside skinny (dope-simpler times) on how to profit from it.

Dien Rice wrote a really good book(s) from his investigative reports, the 57 book is one of the best examples of an indexed book you could find.

So, I'm not assuming anything. I'm going to try to answer his questions best I can. Until about 12 years ago, I was a Flitdabbler. I spent a lifetime flitting and dabbling, and I can either curse my ADHD or thank it, which I choose to do, for meeting so many interesting people and experiencing so many different types of work, business and lifestyles.

So thanks ADD/ADHD.

Harvey Brody was instrumental in pointing out "slop and mess", and it took me a long time to get his metaphors, and how to apply them, but once they had a chance to take root and grow, everything changed.

These questions all address parts of my past. Some were dabbles, some were a flit between dabbles. But all are ways and means to an end.

Every question asked has a corresponding success story, and probably several FAILS too.

It very well could be a young person who is uncertain of what they want to do, or an older guy trying to find his sweet spot, or a researcher or writer or hell, maybe even a documentary film maker. I don't know, or care what his motivations are...he bought my APV report, I told him to ask questions, he did...

And I'm going to give the best answers I can. If anyone has experience in any of these things, the group would benefit from your expertise.

So, before the first of May, he'll have my answers, then the Q. and A. will be few and far between, and as a reminder,

if you don't have the APV report, it goes off the market in 3 days.

www.writerstollbooth.com/apv2017.pdf

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Old April 27, 2017, 08:38 AM
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Lightbulb I know THAT feeling...

...years of "Flitdabbling" brought me to THIS very site!

Which brings up a question: do we help people by showing them possible shortcuts to their stated goals?

Or should we just sit by and watch them flitdabble till they finally get tired of it and stumble on the answers themselves?

I try coaching and always find it interesting when people state a need for help and then REJECT anything that doesn't look like the "help" they WANT, even if you're offering what they really NEED.

C'est la vie...


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So, I'm not assuming anything. I'm going to try to answer his questions best I can. Until about 12 years ago, I was a Flitdabbler. I spent a lifetime flitting and dabbling, and I can either curse my ADHD or thank it, which I choose to do, for meeting so many interesting people and experiencing so many different types of work, business and lifestyles.

So thanks ADD/ADHD.

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Old April 27, 2017, 11:49 AM
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Default There is YOUR get rich idea. Millions of bux waiting for you.

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...years of "Flitdabbling" brought me to THIS very site!

Which brings up a question: do we help people by showing them possible shortcuts to their stated goals?

Or should we just sit by and watch them flitdabble till they finally get tired of it and stumble on the answers themselves?

I try coaching and always find it interesting when people state a need for help and then REJECT anything that doesn't look like the "help" they WANT, even if you're offering what they really NEED.

C'est la vie...

Your ez profit highway. Offer a custom course, and tell them what they really want to hear. BINGO, INSTANT RICHES.

Gordon

PS. OH, wait. This is what members of the Syndicate and all the so called life coaches at the Warrior Forum already do, sorry, maybe a glutted market after all.
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Old April 27, 2017, 12:29 PM
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Lightbulb Ha ha ha! No, thank you very much

...This "business model" is precisely what the "gurus" peddle...with a few of our friendly televangelists.

Lying for a living.

I'll pass...

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Your ez profit highway. Offer a custom course, and tell them what they really want to hear. BINGO, INSTANT RICHES.

Gordon

PS. OH, wait. This is what members of the Syndicate and all the so called life coaches at the Warrior Forum already do, sorry, maybe a glutted market after all.
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Old April 27, 2017, 08:41 AM
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Default Chatteling or flipping. #1

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have any input, feel free to share.


1.) Chattel or flipping in general. I was going to ask if you considered doing an updated course on chattel, but I just read your post about maybe not writing anymore reports. If you decide to, I think a new chattel course
would be well received. No one else really writes about it.

Gordon

I doubt it. Because my way, is too difficult for people to grasp. And it is the simplest of all flipping methods: Quickly get more than you Spent. End of course.

The WHAT doesn't matter. And this is where I've discovered is the biggest hang up of all, it is what prevents people from making any money.

I'm going to demonstrate my point through some links to articles about flipping and buying and selling, because, there is an abundance of information on how to buy and sell:

http://bit.ly/2plIo3R 10 best things to buy and sell on craigslist.

http://aol.it/2qiunU7 Selling TOYS

http://bit.ly/2ox4lzv A crossover, he talks about IMPORT HERE, and importing or exporting are, in my mind, just forms of chatteling. Dien has some recent experience EXPORTING overstocks/returns/surplus to an African country. So, maybe this will be part of my answer for that too.

http://bit.ly/2pCun4S A young guy shares his chatteling experience.

http://bit.ly/2q9SAfO Some more HOW TO, HE says to specialize. I say, whatever.

http://bit.ly/2liTbvd A good site, spend a few minutes looking it over, in addition to this article, some sound advice from work from home angle.

http://moneypantry.com/thrift-store-flipping/ More "advice"

See, you could spend all week finding articles, one guy says specialize, the other says that...and all well and good.

I say. FLIP QUICKLY for a profit, circulate your money.

I don't want a storage unit, a store, a basement, a garage, a shed full of junk, that is STORED VALUE.

I want to buy in the morning, sell by lunch, go fishing. So many of you want to get some fictitious value from stuff, you THINK; "it is worth more than that"...and hold onto it. Not me, I buy with the intent to sell the day I buy it, or as quickly as I can.

And of course, I have built up networks of buyers. The videos I made of these 10 years ago should have been all you needed, but today, you lament about not starting sooner. Oh well. Start now and next year you'll have buyers too.

What could I possibly add, at this point, to the plethora of buying and selling?

So, don't have much interest in writing or rewriting that work. At best, may be interested in investing in group buying. Maybe.

Gordon

PS. I don't think I can improve on the psychology of it, or the Parade of Life, or even the 12 step grow as you go plan. Just not much to add. The doers are doing.

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I doubt it. Because my way, is too difficult for people to grasp. And it is the simplest of all flipping methods: Quickly get more than you Spent. End of course.

The WHAT doesn't matter. And this is where I've discovered is the biggest hang up of all, it is what prevents people from making any money.

I'm going to demonstrate my point through some links to articles about flipping and buying and selling, because, there is an abundance of information on how to buy and sell:

http://bit.ly/2plIo3R 10 best things to buy and sell on craigslist.

http://aol.it/2qiunU7 Selling TOYS

http://bit.ly/2ox4lzv A crossover, he talks about IMPORT HERE, and importing or exporting are, in my mind, just forms of chatteling. Dien has some recent experience EXPORTING overstocks/returns/surplus to an African country. So, maybe this will be part of my answer for that too.

http://bit.ly/2pCun4S A young guy shares his chatteling experience.

http://bit.ly/2q9SAfO Some more HOW TO, HE says to specialize. I say, whatever.

http://bit.ly/2liTbvd A good site, spend a few minutes looking it over, in addition to this article, some sound advice from work from home angle.

http://moneypantry.com/thrift-store-flipping/ More "advice"

See, you could spend all week finding articles, one guy says specialize, the other says that...and all well and good.

I say. FLIP QUICKLY for a profit, circulate your money.

I don't want a storage unit, a store, a basement, a garage, a shed full of junk, that is STORED VALUE.

I want to buy in the morning, sell by lunch, go fishing. So many of you want to get some fictitious value from stuff, you THINK; "it is worth more than that"...and hold onto it. Not me, I buy with the intent to sell the day I buy it, or as quickly as I can.

And of course, I have built up networks of buyers. The videos I made of these 10 years ago should have been all you needed, but today, you lament about not starting sooner. Oh well. Start now and next year you'll have buyers too.

What could I possibly add, at this point, to the plethora of buying and selling?

So, don't have much interest in writing or rewriting that work. At best, may be interested in investing in group buying. Maybe.

Gordon

PS. I don't think I can improve on the psychology of it, or the Parade of Life, or even the 12 step grow as you go plan. Just not much to add. The doers are doing.
Hi Gordon,

Wow, there's tons of gold right here in this post!

I also think there's more "value" in this one thread of yours than many $1000 courses...!

If anyone wants to know the details of how Gordon does it (regarding chatteling), be sure to check out the Chattel Report - http://chattelreport.com/index1.html

Best wishes!

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2.) Importing and exporting. A lot of marketers and "gurus" are selling info about importing products(usually from China) and selling them at their online stores(e-commerce). Do you have any thoughts or recommendations on this topic? Or importing/exporting in general?

Gordon

As seen in answer #1: http://bit.ly/2ox4lzv

For me: "slop and mess". However, I did make small fortunes importing Tiger Balm and Chinese Yo-Yo's. I had made a connection in Taiwan when I was there.

OF COURSE, big fortunes are made in this arena, but, again, for a simple minded guy who can't hold a thought for more than a second or two, this is an overwhelming business of red tape, paperwork, constant contact, and, well, just "slop and mess". Why import a 100 cans of Tiger Balm to make 500 bux, when I can flip a Hobart mixer in a day for the same amuont...sans headaches. ?????????

But you? Have at it. I suggest Dien Rice might be a good contact to start with, he has the connections, and may be willing to offer some consulting if you waved enough Benjamins under his nose.

MY best advice, do due diligence, and get a handle on what the business is all about before you dive in because some guy on the Internet claims he got rich and is going to show you how to do it too.

http://bit.ly/1J3HX3e

http://bit.ly/2q9Z7Y1

http://bit.ly/2q9Xzxi

ALL links for education purposes only, I have no affiliation and offer NO endorsements of any of them.

http://bit.ly/2ozP5Cx

OK, with all the above being said,

WE very soon may have opportunities for you in the Export/Import area. Both Dien and I are beta testers of an international business program, and when it clears beta, we may have a good deal for you. Stay tuned.

But, as far as ME actually doing this? Naw. Only if I can find a new product which needs marketing and I could secure an exclusive license on it, then, go ahead and contact me, I do have some marketers looking for products.

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But you? Have at it. I suggest Dien Rice might be a good contact to start with, he has the connections, and may be willing to offer some consulting if you waved enough Benjamins under his nose.

MY best advice, do due diligence, and get a handle on what the business is all about before you dive in because some guy on the Internet claims he got rich and is going to show you how to do it too.
There are big bucks to be made in import/export... But potentially big risks too, as the expenses can be high! Especially if you're the one paying for shipping, customs duty, etc.

However, Alibaba has really changed the game. If you're an exporter, you can find a buyer on Alibaba before you even put the goods in a container. You can sell it F.O.B. your nearest shipping container terminal (port) - that means that the buyer will pay for the shipping, and also for customs on their end.

There's a lot of paperwork to be done when it comes to shipping. We've used a freight forwarder to do the paperwork for us.

Gordon had experience with importing, whereas my experience has been with both exporting and importing (as we've dealt with both ends, where we exported the goods, and then sold them in our own store in the destination country).

If you're importing, don't forget that you'll have to pay customs duty. I heard a story of a guy who shipped a container to an African port... He was new to the game, and he had forgotten to account for customs duty! He couldn't pay it... Every day your container sits in the port (because you can't get it out, for example, because you haven't paid customs duty), they charge you more money. In the end, as he got further and further into the red, he was less and less able to pay it. Eventually, the government seized his container, and sold its contents, since he couldn't pay his bills!

Finally, if you are exporting to various parts of the world, you need a trustworthy local partner who has experience in this. If you don't, in many places, you'll lose your shirt. (Corruption at the ports is very common in many countries... However, experienced locals know how to deal with it.)

Oh, one last point... If you are doing your own shipping, you'll also want to get shipping insurance. Containers have been known to slide off the ship (and sink to the bottom of the ocean) in very stormy weather!

Best wishes,

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