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Old September 11, 2003, 10:36 AM
Dien Rice
 
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Default Two years ago, September 11 caused us to think a lot about the purpose of our lives...

I know I was in shock, and so were many others. Here on Sowpub, many were in shock - it took many of us many months to start to recover. We searched into what the purpose of our lives was - are we truly living our lives for a fulfilling purpose?

When you live a fulfilling life, it means that when you have something, you give something back to others. The community around you played a part in your success - you can help pay back society by giving something back.

There are many ways to give something back to society. The easiest way is just to give money. You can donate your money to local charities or to international organizations - whichever you feel most comfortable with.

Another way is to help others who are in need. You can also teach others, by sharing your knowledge to help others to better their own lives. Giving a gift to someone in need is the best kind of gift there is - sometimes the best gifts are non-material gifts, such as giving your knowledge or just giving your support. It can mean a lot to many people.

Do what you feel is best. One person I know works regularly in a free soup kitchen. Another person I know does regular work with the Big Brothers Big Sisters of America program. And others I know are simply generous with their time and knowledge to those who are not doing as well as they are.

I'm going to start working harder to help others as well. There's no reason to delay taking action. I hope these words spur many of us into action too.

Dien Rice
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Old September 11, 2003, 01:19 PM
Boyd Stone
 
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Default Yeah, why do most live like they get a 2nd chance?

Hi,

Everyone in my family other than myself lives like their present life is just a "warmup" or "practice" life--they don't act like this is their one and only chance in the trillion year pageant to have some fun or do some good.

Time is all we have, and not a lot of it at that. Yet almost everyone just wastes it, just flushes it down the tubes like used buttwipe.

Including me.

Oh, well ... What can ya do?

Best,

- Boyd
  #3  
Old September 11, 2003, 01:38 PM
Dien Rice
 
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Default Living balanced lives...

Hi Boyd,

I like to make money, but I want my life to contribute something too. I believe in giving something back.

Of course, you have to make something to give something back. So - being successful can be a stage towards helping others too. You can't give unless you have something to give - and having something to give means being successful.

One way to be successful is to make effective use of your time. I heard an amazing interview with Alex Mandossian recently. I recommend you listen to it. He talks about his approach to "action management"...

He talks about how to spend your time effectively in your business by setting aside a certain amount of time every day for "revenue raising" activities only. His advice gets results!

You can listen to it at the link below (it's free)...

The "interview" (which is more of a monologue) takes a little over an hour. His method of "action management" can actually be applied to any important activity - though how he applies it to "revenue raising" is like a revelation! You can adapt it to other activities too - such as to helping others. Strike a balance.

We are meant to live balanced lives - at least that's what I've always believed.

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox for now. :)

- Dien Rice


Interview with Alex Mandossian (free)
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Old September 12, 2003, 10:53 AM
Joe Makowski
 
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Default I blame it on religion....

Every religion that I know of promises that you'll
live forever in pair of dice. If you're a good (insert name of favorite coven here). In moslem, you
get 72 virgins. In Christianity, you get your dead spouse back.
There was a great book a couple of years that the
title said it all: Life is not a dress rehearsal!
  #5  
Old September 12, 2003, 09:29 PM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default Religion Is Fine... In Moderation

> Every religion that I know of promises that
> you'll
> live forever in pair of dice. If you're a
> good (insert name of favorite coven here).

Buddhism takes a slightly different tact... instead of promising eternal life for being good, it promises enlightenment (and thus no more rebirth into this hellish world of pain).

For those who lived in the birthplace of Buddhism - India - it would have been very appealing.

Nothing in their life - due to the class system in that country - and no hope for anything better. A retched life ofpoverty.

What better belief system to instill in these people than to convince them: The EGO is bad. Remove the ego to help attain enlightenment. Thus, do NOT want anything better than you already have because that is an ego thing. And letting your ego take ahold will not see you achieve enlightenment. Without enlightenment you will be reborn - over and over again - into your pathetic poverty stricken life of Pain and yuckiness.

So Buddhism is basically... live a good life without wanting anything more than you already have, and you will escape your poverty and painful existence.

And to counter all of these there is Satanism (not to be confused with Devil worship). The Satanist does NOT believe in any diety whatsoever (no God or Devil). And thinks when you die, that is it. There is nothing more. No rebirth. No pair of dice. Just nothing. The big undreaming sleep. Of course, they also believe you are responsible for yourself so it's not something the socialist left would find appealing :o)

As for the 72 virgins awaiting you being something in Is-lam. I must have missed that bit in my copy of the Quaran. I believe that is just media BS. Something to help the Christians think odd things about Moslems. To generate support for any actions taken against Moslems.

Further to this line...

The media oft sites "Moslem Extremists" or "Moslem Fundamentalists" as causing chaos and death.

How come they NEVER call the IRA "Christian Terrorists"? Hmmm.

Yes. Religion is fine... in moderation. It's an interesting subject to study too.

Study them all. Then take what you can use from each one and discard the rest.

Michael Ross


The Gospel The Church Removed From The Bible- The Gospel According To Thomas
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Old September 13, 2003, 02:15 AM
Ankesh Kothari
 
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Default Re: Religion Is Fine... In Moderation

> For those who lived in the birthplace of
> Buddhism - India - it would have been very
> appealing.

> Nothing in their life - due to the class
> system in that country - and no hope for
> anything better. A retched life ofpoverty.

Actually Buddhism spread because KING Ashoka converted and became a Buddhist. And then he sent his children and his ministers to far away places - as far away as Japan and Africa to teach about Buddhism.

Buddhism is deeper than class system.

And actually Indians were the richest during that period. India was called the golden bird. Everyone from Alexander to the British were attracted to India due to its wealth.

It had classes and it had poor people - but during those days - people were comparitively happy and richer than they are now.

And even the founder of Buddhism - Gautam Buddha was the son of a king.

People didnt convert to Buddhism to get rid of the caste system. Atleast not till the 1930s. When Dr. Ambedkar - the person who wrote the Indian constitution - told all the dalit poor people to convert to Buddhism from Hinduism - so that they could be free of the class system.

But before 1930s - people converted to Buddhism to get rid of their wants - not to get rid of their poverty. It was completely opposite.
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Old September 13, 2003, 05:38 AM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default No Idols (Sound familiar?)

> And even the founder of Buddhism - Gautam
> Buddha was the son of a king.

My personal preference is to call him Siddhartha. But whatever floats your boat.

Some things I find interesting about Buddhism are

The "no worshiping idols" thing. And then we see loads of Buddha statues all over the place.

The assassins sent to kill Siddhartha (Buddha) only to end up converting to Buddhism instead.

And - no-one has been killed in the name of Buddhism.

Also, people who don't follow the Buddhism path don't walk around calling themselve's Buddhists. (Unlike some Christians for example only - priests for instance - who do the most UNChristian things while still calling themselves Christian.)

Is-lam is also an interesting religion, when you bother taking the time to look into it instead of buying the media hype.

Judaism... and they even argue amongst themselves about the nature of God. (Imagine the hierarchy of the Christian churches not agreeing on the nature of God ;o) Yet the Jews are prepared to discuss it.)

And, of course, let's not forget the religion of Jedi. Which, I believe, 300,000 Britons claimed to be in the last UK census.

Michael Ross
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Old September 13, 2003, 05:56 AM
Ankesh Kothari
 
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Default You might want to lookup Jainism too

Some people believe that Siddhartha was influenced by Jain monks.

But Jainism in itself is a wonderful study. Unfortunately not much is written about it in English. Mostly everything is written in Gujarati (Indian language)

But Vardhaman Mahavir was the one who came up with Ahimsa (non violence). Atleast thats what many Indian historians believe.

But Jainism didn't spread much outside India. Buddhism did. Buddhism is a very small minority now in India though. Ironically there are more Buddhists in SriLanka or Tibet or Japan than in India.
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Old September 13, 2003, 06:09 PM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default Jainism sounds interesting

Ankesh,

Thanks for the suggestion.

I've found some online info and began going over the info presented.

> Some people believe that Siddhartha was
> influenced by Jain monks.

With the brief bit I've seen, I can understand why some would believe this. Of course, the other reason for any similarity could be "plucking the concept out of the ether."

> But Vardhaman Mahavir was the one who came
> up with Ahimsa (non violence).

And what a job that is. With all those "prans" and any injury to them - no matter how small - considered violence. Makes my head spin just trying to get a grip on prans, let alone doing no harm to them.

One reason for a lack of spread of the religion could also be its basic "we are the masters of our own destiny of existence of life and we should not blame anyone or anything else for our destiny" aspect.

And it appears to me... if you are born as a Tiryancha you are pretty well going to stay as such until you somehow are born as a human and can thus do something about the situation.

So far I don't understand why the Heavenly Being can't doing anything about its situation. Why can't they adopt restraints? I'm sure I'll come across the answer.

Interesting.

Michael Ross
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Old September 13, 2003, 08:32 PM
Ankesh Kothari
 
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Default Re: Jainism sounds interesting

> And it appears to me... if you are born as a
> Tiryancha you are pretty well going to stay
> as such until you somehow are born as a
> human and can thus do something about the
> situation.

Yes - but when you are a Tiryancha - you dont have concept of time and space. You dont feel much.
 


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