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Diane Everroad September 4, 2000 06:14 PM

"Passive Exit Window" Technology
 
Hello,

I received an email from a gentleman who wants to do some advertising our site.

Following is some of the email:

"Passive Exit Window technology, a newer form of advertising we've developed for site owners who wish to take advantage of all traffic that EXITS their site. We're currently paying up to 45 cents per unique visitor to our site using all method described above."

Are you familiar with this technology?

Have you had anyone contact you to advertise on your site?

Is so, how much did you receive per unique visitor to their site?

Thanks for your help,
Diane




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Marty Foley September 5, 2000 02:40 AM

Sounds like a fancy term for Popup windows (DNO)
 
DNO = Do Not Open (the subject line says it all).

But since you're here, see the link below...




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Diane Everroad September 5, 2000 12:37 PM

Marty Foley ... Certificate Problem
 
Marty,

Thank you for your response. I consider myself to be a newbie ... I have SO much to learn.

> But since you're here, see the link below...

I followed your link, and I liked your product. However, when I went to the ordering section, a warning came up about your certificate ... so I stopped.

Did I need to? I don't know ... but if I did, probably so have others.

Thanks again,
Diane

P.S. Your site says to be able to use your software, you need to know how to do CGI script. I don't. Any suggestions on how to find someone who can do this for me?


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Marty Foley September 5, 2000 01:07 PM

Certificate Problem/CGI Script Installation...
 
> I consider
> myself to be a newbie ... I have SO much to
> learn.

No problem. We *all* start out as newbies. Hang in there and you won't be for long (but you/me will never know it all)....

> I followed your link, and I liked your
> product. However, when I went to the
> ordering section, a warning came up about
> your certificate ... so I stopped.

If you go through the process again and tell me *EXACTLY* what the certificate warning said, I'll send you a free copy of my e-book, Internet Marketing Goldmine. I'm guessing that the certificate is one not recognized by your browser, but I could be wrong.

> P.S. Your site says to be able to use your
> software, you need to know how to do CGI
> script. I don't. Any suggestions on how to
> find someone who can do this for me?

We can install the script for you at no charge. Just be sure that your site is on a Unix server.

Feel free to be in touch if you have any questions or comments.

To Your Online Profits,
Marty Foley ~ Victory Ventures
Internet Business Success: http://ProfitInfo.com
Affiliate Program Success: http://AffiliateProfitInfo.com




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Diane Everroad September 5, 2000 02:24 PM

Re: Certificate Problem/CGI Script Installation...
 
Hello Marty,

Thank you so much for your response.

> If you go through the process again and tell
> me *EXACTLY* what the certificate warning
> said, I'll send you a free copy of my
> e-book, Internet Marketing Goldmine. I'm
> guessing that the certificate is one not
> recognized by your browser, but I could be
> wrong.

This is what the certificate warning said:

Security Alert
The name of the security certificate does not match the name of the site.

I went to View Certificate, and it stated:
Issued To Music.Note.com
Issued By Thawte Server CA

Then I had the option to continue, but I didn't.

I hope this helps.

> We can install the script for you at no
> charge. Just be sure that your site is on a
> Unix server.

O.K., I'll contact my ISP this evening.

> Feel free to be in touch if you have any
> questions or comments.

> To Your Online Profits,
> Marty Foley ~ Victory Ventures
> Internet Business Success:
> http://ProfitInfo.com Affiliate Program
> Success: http://AffiliateProfitInfo.com

Thank you, I appreciate your time and assistance.

Diane




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Marty Foley September 5, 2000 03:01 PM

Re: Certificate Problem/CGI Script Installation...
 
> Thank you so much for your response.

You're welcome :-)

> Security Alert
> The name of the security certificate does
> not match the name of the site.

Thanks. That is because the cert. is provided by my host, not purchased specifically for my site. Still secure, but obviously can hamper sales since the alert pops up in some browsers.

> O.K., I'll contact my ISP this evening.

Sounds good. If you want to clear any questions up before then, drop me an email: MFoley @ ProfitInfo.com

BTW: Check your email, I've sent the download info for the electronic version of IMG, out of appreciation for the cert. feedback.

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Marty Foley ~ Victory Ventures
Internet Business Success: http://ProfitInfo.com
Affiliate Program Success: http://AffiliateProfitInfo.com

Steve MacLellan September 5, 2000 06:27 PM

Marty's software can be installed on your server...
 
In case you don't know, your site is is running Apache/1.3.3 (Unix) mod_perl/1.22 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 on Linux.

Assuming you have your own cgi-bin, you won't have any problem.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan




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Steve MacLellan September 5, 2000 06:41 PM

Re: Certificate Problem/CGI Script Installation...
 
> Thanks. That is because the cert. is
> provided by my host, not purchased
> specifically for my site. Still secure, but
> obviously can hamper sales since the alert
> pops up in some browsers.

Hi Marty,

If you would like to fix it so that nasty warning doesn't pop up, you need to get rid of the relative URLs. For example...

../images/money.jpg

You are referencing a directory that isn't secured. If you had the absolute URL in there instead, using a https call, you would not be having this problem.

Sometimes when I have missed an URL when testing a customers secure connection I will see that security window pop up. If you do as suggested (check all images and links), no one will see it. I saw it as well using MSIE. I assumed this is what she was using.

Best Regards, Steve MacLellan


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Marty Foley September 6, 2000 12:52 AM

Thanks Steve, but there was a different message...
 
Thanks for your efforts to help, Steve. But the error that Diane got was as follows:

-------------------------------------
Security Alert
The name of the security certificate does not match the name of the site.

I went to View Certificate, and it stated:
Issued To Music.Note.com
Issued By Thawte Server CA
-------------------------------------

> If you would like to fix it so that nasty
> warning doesn't pop up, you need to get rid
> of the relative URLs. For example...

Your tip in reply refers to fixing another popup message, which says:

-------------------------------------
This page contains both secure and non-secure items. Do you want to display the non-secure items? [Yes/No]
-------------------------------------

I had the latter popup message a while back. I fixed it by doing the opposite of what you suggest: Using relative urls: (../images/money.jpg) instead of absolute: (http://ProfitInfo.com/images/money.jpg)

Just to be sure I just tested it again. Relative URL's eliminate the latter popup message.

I appreciate your helpfulness, but the message she got has to do with the entity that the cert. was issued to (music.note.com) does not match the name of the site it is used on (profitinfo.com).

music.note.com is my host, but it looks like purchasing my own cert. is the only way to get rid of that popup message.

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Marty Foley ~ Victory Ventures
Internet Business Success: http://ProfitInfo.com
Affiliate Program Success: http://AffiliateProfitInfo.com

Steve MacLellan September 6, 2000 08:10 AM

Re: Thanks Steve, but there was a different message...
 
> Thanks for your efforts to help, Steve. But
> the error that Diane got was as follows:

> -------------------------------------
> Security Alert
> The name of the security certificate does
> not match the name of the site.

> I went to View Certificate, and it stated:
> Issued To Music.Note.com
> Issued By Thawte Server CA
> -------------------------------------

> Your tip in reply refers to fixing another
> popup message, which says:

Hi Marty — the message above is what I got as well using MSIE 5.0

> -------------------------------------
> This page contains both secure and
> non-secure items. Do you want to display the
> non-secure items? [Yes/No]
> -------------------------------------

I don't believe I saw this message at all...

> I appreciate your helpfulness, but the
> message she got has to do with the entity
> that the cert. was issued to
> (music.note.com) does not match the name of
> the site it is used on (profitinfo.com).

Your host and the call to the https does match the certificate, because the secure call transfers them to the secure server on music.note.com

> music.note.com is my host, but it looks like
> purchasing my own cert. is the only way to
> get rid of that popup message.

These are expensive and can be annoying to install.

Let me show you an example and you can decide if it is not similar.

https://host8.4ua.com/taxsecretsofthewealthy/secure.html

The certificate my customers uses in this case is not registered to taxsecretsofthewealthy.com. It is registered to the secure server, which appears to me to be exactly the same as your situation. When you visit the URL above you are not presented with any pop-ups. However ... if you want to view the certificate you can do so from your file menu by choosing "properties." You can see, in this case, the certificate is registered to host8.4ua.com.

Anything introduced to the page from someplace else uses absolute URL's and for example the image at the top is called like this:

https://host8.4ua.com/taxsecretsofthewealthy/secure.jpg

Even the "thank-you" page that the user is directed to after submitting the form is a secure call. From the "thank-you" I have other absolute URL's using http://taxsecretsofthewealthy.com which THEN transfer the customer away from the secure connection.

When you had the problem using absolute URLs did you use https://music.note.com/profitinfo/.....? (to call images etc..)

I hope this helps Marty. Your server set-up, and the servers I put clients on are similar. Your server is Solaris and mine is Linux but these are both suitable operating systems for Unix environments. Your server is using the same server software Apache/1.3.6.

If I can solve the problem using the method as described, I don't see why you would not be able to do the same thing. Granted there may be some details I'm missing, but IMHO your secure order form can be marked-up so the users is not presented with security warnings.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan




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