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ron lafuddy September 25, 2013 03:25 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
A question for Sowpubbers:

Anyone have any experience putting together and selling Skip Rossell's Auto Accident Kits?

I did and had some success with it at the time. That led to other ventures
and I never went back to it.

I ran across some sample kits I'd put together, while cleaning the other day.
I thought now might be a great time (pre-holidays) to re-introduce this idea.

Any thoughts?

Robert J. September 27, 2013 11:34 AM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ron lafuddy (Post 33238)
A question for Sowpubbers:

Anyone have any experience putting together and selling Skip Rossell's Auto Accident Kits?

I did and had some success with it at the time. That led to other ventures
and I never went back to it.

I ran across some sample kits I'd put together, while cleaning the other day.
I thought now might be a great time (pre-holidays) to re-introduce this idea.

Any thoughts?


Crickets!

The thread has slowed down a lot recently, Ron ...

My thoughts on the Auto Accident kit ... you probably could make some emergency cash or fill some free time with the project. But if it is a consistent and scaleable stream of income you are looking for, your time is probably better spent elsewhere.

What do YOU think about it? What attracts you to the idea?

You had some success before with it. What could you have done better before to make it even more profitable? What WILL you do differently if you do it again, starting today?

ron lafuddy September 27, 2013 03:52 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Robert,

Thanks for your response.
I appreciate your thoughts and questions.

SOWpub's going through one of it's slow cycles
I think. That will change.

Yes, the kits can produce emergency cash for someone
and fairly fast too. Or just be a holiday moneymaker.

Your choice.

Big selling point is the inexpensive "gift" angle.
They can give them out to their best customers.
"Customers will keep handy, see and be reminded
about your service." Don't need to say much more
than that, other than price and how many.

I stayed local, but that's not necessary.
There is a much larger market for these than
you might imagine. Do a Google search.

Scale up could be to add larger businesses like
credit unions and car dealers or to expand to
other areas.

I did my own version of scale up, which was to add
cross marketing between related businesses. That kept
it interesting and as I said, led to other things.

Thanks,
Ron

Skip's report, if anyone would like to see it, is available
free online. Just Google Skip Rossell auto accident kit.

Robert J. September 28, 2013 09:56 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Good topic, Ron!

I own just about everything from Skip I could afford ... have stuff all over the hard drives of three or four computers in my house! To save time, though, I googled Skip's guide, as you noted.

Wow, such a nice reminder of the awesome style Skip had in his writing. Makes me miss him even more ... but I did enjoy the chance to re-visit with him through the guide.

Good stuff!

Would be great to hear how you twisted the process to your benefit. Sounds like multiple advertisers on the package, using complementary services?

Were you including the cameras? In today's digital world of cell phones with cameras, that seems unnecessary, but is the package impressive enough without it? Hmm ...

ron lafuddy September 29, 2013 01:10 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Robert,

Thanks for the follow up questions.

Yep, Skip will be missed around here.
A very generous guy.

He was also right about the customized label. It really
catches their eye. Generic kits don't have that same value.

I started with the cameras and got a super deal on them at
the time from a local source, .99 each. Then realized that
they weren't necessary. The information about what to do
and the forms, along with the customization were the ticket.

The ads make the kits very profitable.

And the project is repeatable with the same participants
although I didn't do that.

Now ya got me thinking about it. Like I needed another project.

Darn Ya, Robert!

Ron

Eva October 1, 2013 03:52 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert J. (Post 33266)
Good topic, Ron!

I own just about everything from Skip I could afford ... have stuff all over the hard drives of three or four computers in my house! To save time, though, I googled Skip's guide, as you noted.

Wow, such a nice reminder of the awesome style Skip had in his writing. Makes me miss him even more ... but I did enjoy the chance to re-visit with him through the guide.

Good stuff!

Would be great to hear how you twisted the process to your benefit. Sounds like multiple advertisers on the package, using complementary services?

Were you including the cameras? In today's digital world of cell phones with cameras, that seems unnecessary, but is the package impressive enough without it? Hmm ...


I tried to Google the guide too, couldn't find it... Link please?

Thanks in advance, Eva

Never mind, found it...

Eva October 1, 2013 04:40 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits with ads for higher profits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ron lafuddy (Post 33273)
Robert,

Thanks for the follow up questions.

Yep, Skip will be missed around here.
A very generous guy.

He was also right about the customized label. It really
catches their eye. Generic kits don't have that same value.

I started with the cameras and got a super deal on them at
the time from a local source, .99 each. Then realized that
they weren't necessary. The information about what to do
and the forms, along with the customization were the ticket.


The ads make the kits very profitable.

And the project is repeatable with the same participants
although I didn't do that.

Now ya got me thinking about it. Like I needed another project.

Darn Ya, Robert!

Ron


I am intrigued, especially with the ad part. Could you elaborate on that and how you went about it/thinking on how to go about it?

Would that be sharing the plastic bag label with 2 or more advertisers? My thinking is instead of sharing the outside label, stick a booklet in it with ads to 6-12 companies and make the ads in the form of coupons. Am I on the right track?

If so, how many ads would you do and how would you price them?

Eva

Eva October 1, 2013 07:27 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits with a charger included
 
Sounds like I am talking to myself, too quiet in here guys. Anyhow, since most have cell phones, camera not needed but if you are out of battery, what do you do? Poked around a bit and found this;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Mi...-/400486044307

Being a non-techie, will this one work for both Android and iphones?

Would including one increase ease of sale?

Just thinking out loud...

P.s. Also found this one;

http://www.meldonlaw.com/reports/aut...ar-charger.cfm

They have branded it for them only.



Eva

Robert J. October 1, 2013 11:16 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Eva, just my two cents, but I think that may be over-complicating it.

Also, so many different kinds of phones out there ... iphones, newer iphones with different charging jacks, various LG and others ... I have at least three different "basic" charging cords home, and they are all quite "phone specific."

I think you can add enough sizzle to sell the kits without the need for a "tangible" product inside ... but that opinion comes from the comfort of my want-trepreneur recliner ... so ...

Eva October 2, 2013 07:25 PM

Re: Another reason why
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert J. (Post 33278)
Eva, just my two cents, but I think that may be over-complicating it.

Also, so many different kinds of phones out there ... iphones, newer iphones with different charging jacks, various LG and others ... I have at least three different "basic" charging cords home, and they are all quite "phone specific."

I think you can add enough sizzle to sell the kits without the need for a "tangible" product inside ... but that opinion comes from the comfort of my want-trepreneur recliner ... so ...


I'm weighing my options, a car charger with a cordless USB plugin might be one choice, still researching... One thing is for sure do, IF I am going to do it, now is the time to get it done because of upcoming holidays. That means an opportunity to sell it as a gift biz owners can give away in the spirit of Christmas.

I have another reason too, just have not told people on this forum about it. Here it goes:

I had a stroke in April, was in the hospital for 12 days and at first could not even speak, go to the bathroom or eat by myself. I was affected on my whole left side so I had to learn how to walk again. Now, almost 6 months later, I can walk, talk, eat etc again even though I had a second mini-stroke in July and was taken in for 4 days.

On top of that, was taken in by ambulance, also in July and was diagnosed with acute Glaucoma on the right eye. Did a procedure on my right eye 3 weeks ago to try to save it and even though I lost 90% of my sight, I am hopeful I will get better.

This simple project is something I can handle and I have a couple of people that can promote it for me. I hate to lay at home helpless and do nothing, besides, I need to bring in some income even though I will probably get disability.

To me, this is worth a try and I am gathering knowledge and setting up a plan as we speak.

Wish me good luck,

Eva

JohnnyB October 2, 2013 11:26 PM

Yes, there's an app for that
 
Hi Eva:

Looks like no one uses their glove compartment anymore.

I did my own Google search for accident kits and found a bunch of accident
cell phone apps who are sponsored by accident lawyers.

Here's an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWoW...layer_embedded

Maybe you can brand your own (localized) car accident app, and get auto body shops, lawyers, and insurance companies as paid sponsors.

All the best,

JohnnyB

Eva October 3, 2013 09:12 AM

Re: Yes, there's an app for that
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyB (Post 33286)
Hi Eva:

Looks like no one uses their glove compartment anymore.

I did my own Google search for accident kits and found a bunch of accident
cell phone apps who are sponsored by accident lawyers.

Here's an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWoW...layer_embedded

Maybe you can brand your own (localized) car accident app, and get auto body shops, lawyers, and insurance companies as paid sponsors.

All the best,

JohnnyB


Yes, I am sure it is, still believe in printed material though as I am sure many others do as well. Will take a look though out of curiosity,

Eva

ron lafuddy October 3, 2013 09:25 AM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Eva,

I focused on the "gift" angle with the biz owners.

The holidays were coming up and so there was interest.
I started the same way Skip did, selling it directly to
the business owner. I received all kinds of input from
them and made changes as I went.

Talking to the business owners gave me my breakthrough.
They were in different but related businesses. They knew
each other and had their favorites (very important).

And, they shared the same target market.

Bang! The light went on. I had my "Don Alm Moment".

I could make more money, 2 to 3 times as much by giving the
kits away, rather than selling them directly.

From there it was just a case of lining up the advertisers
which the host business was happy to help with.

Initially I put a label for the advertisers on the other side.
Then I changed that to one label, with the host business and the
ads around the outside. Ads and host business info went on the forms
inside as well.

I don't know much about chargers or apps., but I'm sure the concept
could use some updating.

Ron

Eva October 3, 2013 02:49 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ron lafuddy (Post 33292)
Eva,

I focused on the "gift" angle with the biz owners.

The holidays were coming up and so there was interest.
I started the same way Skip did, selling it directly to
the business owner. I received all kinds of input from
them and made changes as I went.

Talking to the business owners gave me my breakthrough.
They were in different but related businesses. They knew
each other and had their favorites (very important).

And, they shared the same target market.

Bang! The light went on. I had my "Don Alm Moment".

I could make more money, 2 to 3 times as much by giving the
kits away, rather than selling them directly.

From there it was just a case of lining up the advertisers
which the host business was happy to help with.

Initially I put a label for the advertisers on the other side.
Then I changed that to one label, with the host business and the
ads around the outside. Ads and host business info went on the forms
inside as well.

I don't know much about chargers or apps., but I'm sure the concept
could use some updating.

Ron


This is how I would try it:

*Clear ziplock bag labeled with a 4x5 label, designed for the biz owner with picture/phone on it
*A 5.5x8.5 8 page brochure included, 6 1/2 page color ads with coupons, 4 1/4 page ads on back side
*Include 3 articles on what to do in case of accident in brochure
*The SR 1 form from DMV included outside of brochure (California)
*Mini notepad
*Ink pen
*Cordless USB Universal car charger

Sell 100 units for $5 each unit

Sell the ads for 2.500 units at $225/$125 for the smaller ones, total of 10 advertisers, approx $2,000 for all 10 ads combined.

Now, you are suggesting to GIVE the kits away? AND make 2-3 times more profit? Can you explain?

I am very familiar with Don Alm btw,

Thanks in advance, Eva

ron lafuddy October 3, 2013 04:56 PM

Re: Skip's Auto Accident Kits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eva (Post 33295)
This is how I would try it:

*Clear ziplock bag labeled with a 4x5 label, designed for the biz owner with picture/phone on it
*A 5.5x8.5 8 page brochure included, 6 1/2 page color ads with coupons, 4 1/4 page ads on back side
*Include 3 articles on what to do in case of accident in brochure
*The SR 1 form from DMV included outside of brochure (California)
*Mini notepad
*Ink pen
*Cordless USB Universal car charger

Sell 100 units for $5 each unit

Sell the ads for 2.500 units at $225/$125 for the smaller ones, total of 10 advertisers, approx $2,000 for all 10 ads combined.

Now, you are suggesting to GIVE the kits away? AND make 2-3 times more profit? Can you explain?

I am very familiar with Don Alm btw,

Thanks in advance, Eva


Eva,

Sorry about the confusion. It's important to keep a program simple
when you are starting out. I learned as I went. You will too if you
decide to give this one a go.

Keep your costs as low as possible.

Not suggesting here that you should give yours away. That's just what
I did and I have to tinker with things and test to keep it interesting.
It just sort of evolved in that direction, based on my experience.

Shouldn't have brought it up, as it's something for the advanced
course. Don't want to confuse anyone wanting to start this program
because I think it has potential - especially today.

Ron

Eva October 3, 2013 05:40 PM

Re: Advanced needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ron lafuddy (Post 33296)
Eva,

Sorry about the confusion. It's important to keep a program simple
when you are starting out. I learned as I went. You will too if you
decide to give this one a go.

Keep your costs as low as possible.

Not suggesting here that you should give yours away. That's just what
I did and I have to tinker with things and test to keep it interesting.
It just sort of evolved in that direction, based on my experience.

Shouldn't have brought it up, as it's something for the advanced
course.
Don't want to confuse anyone wanting to start this program
because I think it has potential - especially today.

Ron


Advanced? I can handle advanced, lol. I am more interested in your opinion on my ad fees and if I should include more ads/coupons. AS far as giving it away, you did but for a reason, a reason I need to know or I go with it my way anyway and learn as I go.

All that is outlined above is less than $3 and I am asking for $5. Profits from ads are additional,

Eva


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