Phil and Bruce - thank you both ...there's so much garbage out there that if you're smart, all you can really do is investigate, investigate, investigate... (isn't that the old saying? The more you investigate the lest you invest?)... it seems like the true way to trading is literally finding someone who's doing it and mirror them or have them take you under their wing - but there are so few that will actually do that who aren't trying to just take advantage of you.

thanks again.