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Old May 23, 2022, 10:20 PM
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Default PREOCCUPATION INTERRUPTION Was New to Me - Meditation However-

Thanks Gordon,

PREOCCUPATION INTERRUPTION is not in a dictionary. And when I googled it. There is nobody Else Discussing it.

So not a good Niche to sell into.

But - "Meditation" is a niche with Many Million people in it.

SPECIFICALLY -

Pre-Occupation Interruption - I had to look up. Could not find a Definition. I think it means - BREAKING People out of their Dazed State.

Modern Definition of "Meditation" is meaningless to me.

But Found this Ancient India Definition of "Meditation or Yoga."

"The purpose of meditation is the settling of the mind into silence."

I Hate Yoga and Meditation.

Yoga is boring. (OR Painful and Embarrassing if you do it with EXPERTS)

Meditation - I fall asleep.

I cannot "Calm My Mind."

MY Definition of successful Meditation is - "Blocking or Breaking off each idea as it POPS into your mind for 5 or 10 minutes." Not a CALM MENTAL STATE. But at least I can achieve a Sortof "Thoughtless Mental State."

That is the closest I get.

HOWEVER.

When I am Scything my Lawn. I have to Focus on Each Swing. Or miss the grass and weeds completely. Or dig the blade into the ground.

So When I am Splitting wood or Scything Grass I am in a Focused State of
Mindfulness. Away of NOW.

IDEAS POP IN.

So We Gotta Figure out what the Millions of Yoga and Meditation Folks LOVE about it. Then sell them MORE of that.

MIND CONTROL could be a version of that.

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Old May 24, 2022, 07:46 AM
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Default Thanks Glenn, meditation is the "utlimate mind control"

Thanks Glenn, love your thinking cap.

Meditation is a market, with several niches within it, mindfulness is only one, mostly female and a ready to spend group.

Spiritual meditation is more purposeful, bringing one closer to their "source".

Healthy meditation is quieting the mind, and there is a meditation for suggestion too. All great niches in the market. And all meditation is MIND CONTROL, quite literally, getting control of your mind, often in essence, to shut up or be quiet, stopping the inner dialogs.

In MIND CONTOL markets, we think of other people's minds being controlled, but I think you are onto something. Huge crowds with money, like in the dating market' so maybe

How to Meditate The Love of Your Life into Existance.

Let meditation be your guide to love.

From meditation to visualization; the secret to turning a quiet mind into
manifestaion magnet. (I like this one)

And I think they LOVE the "idea" of being in control of their mind, feel it is their time, just for them, when they can shut the big bad world out and let it all go. I don't how many actually are able to clear their mind, but this is where Cialdini might ponder, committment and consistency.

If THEY commit to meditation, then we as marketers at least know some idea of what they buy; like meditation helpers: amulets, talismans, touch stones, etc. Sound recordings (big one), anything they THINK will make the very difficult task of quieting the mind down, should be a good seller.

As for PI, that would have to be sold as a secret, at a very high price, to a select group of people; marketers, copywriters, salespeople, persuaders, politicians, etc. so they could be a part of the secret society which Blair Warren explains so well in FORBIDDEN PERSUADERS. It should never get a mainstream definition, only the few, the chosen, the selected, would be taught the secrets of PI MIND CONTROL.

My new Frequency Generator might be a good item, it not only helps meditators to get quiet, by directing their energy inward...it allows the user to project and broadcast outward directly into other minds...so an actual mind control device. How much should I charge for it?

Gordon

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Thanks Gordon,

PREOCCUPATION INTERRUPTION is not in a dictionary. And when I googled it. There is nobody Else Discussing it.

So not a good Niche to sell into.

But - "Meditation" is a niche with Many Million people in it.

SPECIFICALLY -

Pre-Occupation Interruption - I had to look up. Could not find a Definition. I think it means - BREAKING People out of their Dazed State.

Modern Definition of "Meditation" is meaningless to me.

But Found this Ancient India Definition of "Meditation or Yoga."

"The purpose of meditation is the settling of the mind into silence."

I Hate Yoga and Meditation.

Yoga is boring. (OR Painful and Embarrassing if you do it with EXPERTS)

Meditation - I fall asleep.

I cannot "Calm My Mind."

MY Definition of successful Meditation is - "Blocking or Breaking off each idea as it POPS into your mind for 5 or 10 minutes." Not a CALM MENTAL STATE. But at least I can achieve a Sortof "Thoughtless Mental State."

That is the closest I get.

HOWEVER.

When I am Scything my Lawn. I have to Focus on Each Swing. Or miss the grass and weeds completely. Or dig the blade into the ground.

So When I am Splitting wood or Scything Grass I am in a Focused State of
Mindfulness. Away of NOW.

IDEAS POP IN.

So We Gotta Figure out what the Millions of Yoga and Meditation Folks LOVE about it. Then sell them MORE of that.

MIND CONTROL could be a version of that.

Thanks,
Glenn
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Old May 24, 2022, 08:22 AM
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Default A cosmic look at Earth.

From even the moon, a short cosmos distance, we see this blue globe like thing.

What we know of Earth, and is taught in science, but hardly ever in PRACTICAL life terms is: Magnetic Poles, Gravity, Atmosphere.

I have engaged in discussions with several people about TENSOR RINGS, energy and RF and all things floating around us we can feel, tune into but can;t see. As Glenn pointed out about 5g, and the unknown effects it will have...although those who are sensitive to energy, know already, it ain't a good thing.

Bob Beckman, a friend of the forum, visited me and we went to Mary Campbell's cave, Bob was a Qigong Master and told me the energy at the cave was as strong as anyplace he's ever been (and he traveled the world)...and he did it without prompting cause I already knew it was an energy vortex.

I could go on and on, but what is the practical, useful and beneficial side to all this?

Understanding the magnetism of the Earth, that electricity was already there as Ben Franklin's kite experiment showed, and that it was a POWER which could be used.

Electricity can also kill you quick, and so can concentrated energy, as militaries around the globe would testify to, if they were willing.

Anyhow, electricity, magnetic, and RF are a part of this Earth, and all those powers can be harnassed and used. But only a few have ever explored the internal workings of these energies. Some of us are ulta sensitive, others just unaware.

We all know about Cell phones, radios, TV, Wi-Fi, Blue tooth but there are those of us who have tried to harness our natural state energies and put them to beneficial use.

Whether that is tuning into the thoughts floating all around us (as many inventors do), or to create a healthier body, to being a good steward of the Earth...there are many people interested in using their PERSONAL energy to, at a minimum, better their lives.

WE know about quartz, crystals, copper, magnets, but few actually follow the planet's blueprint, which combines all of them. Nothing we have here, except for some meteorites, wasn't here before us.

And so, the Earth has rules. And we break them, by not following magnetic lines or by trying to overcome gravity, or by not understanding how receptive our bodies are naturally to ENERGY of the Earth.

So, rocks, magnets, metals, electricity, flows, etc., etc. all come into play. And that is the goal of my new Psychic Energy Generator, both a reception and broadcast device to aid in using Nature's energy for beneficial purposes.

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Old May 24, 2022, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: Thanks Glenn, meditation is the "utlimate mind control"

I really need to do my morning meditations before I read these threads.

Meditation turned around for me when I shifted from the quiet or blank the mind style to discursive. Pick a theme and explore it in depth. Whenever you get distracted trace your thoughts back to the theme again. Keep going for 15 minutes.

A small booklet (hotsheet) of meditation themes for a specific topic could be interesting. Attract your soul mate, etc. Another with a set of affirmations with instructions on how to do them effectively. A related astrological pendant might be offered in the back. Venus for love, etc...

Thanks Gordon and Glenn. You got me thinking yet again!

Eric



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Thanks Glenn, love your thinking cap.

Meditation is a market, with several niches within it, mindfulness is only one, mostly female and a ready to spend group.

Spiritual meditation is more purposeful, bringing one closer to their "source".

Healthy meditation is quieting the mind, and there is a meditation for suggestion too. All great niches in the market. And all meditation is MIND CONTROL, quite literally, getting control of your mind, often in essence, to shut up or be quiet, stopping the inner dialogs.

In MIND CONTOL markets, we think of other people's minds being controlled, but I think you are onto something. Huge crowds with money, like in the dating market' so maybe

How to Meditate The Love of Your Life into Existance.

Let meditation be your guide to love.

From meditation to visualization; the secret to turning a quiet mind into
manifestaion magnet. (I like this one)

And I think they LOVE the "idea" of being in control of their mind, feel it is their time, just for them, when they can shut the big bad world out and let it all go. I don't how many actually are able to clear their mind, but this is where Cialdini might ponder, committment and consistency.

If THEY commit to meditation, then we as marketers at least know some idea of what they buy; like meditation helpers: amulets, talismans, touch stones, etc. Sound recordings (big one), anything they THINK will make the very difficult task of quieting the mind down, should be a good seller.

As for PI, that would have to be sold as a secret, at a very high price, to a select group of people; marketers, copywriters, salespeople, persuaders, politicians, etc. so they could be a part of the secret society which Blair Warren explains so well in FORBIDDEN PERSUADERS. It should never get a mainstream definition, only the few, the chosen, the selected, would be taught the secrets of PI MIND CONTROL.

My new Frequency Generator might be a good item, it not only helps meditators to get quiet, by directing their energy inward...it allows the user to project and broadcast outward directly into other minds...so an actual mind control device. How much should I charge for it?

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Old May 24, 2022, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: PREOCCUPATION INTERRUPTION Was New to Me - Meditation However-

Hi Gordon & Eric

Big market - one I dabble in as an affiliate and should get more involved in

Basic meditations are free on YouTube but still plenty of people buy them - the main one I sell is https://zen12.com/ which (from memory) sells for around $50 but another one from the same company sells for $299 and Centerpointe Holosync is an order of magnitude more expensive, even if you don't go on the retreats where you listen to the CDs you've bought.

Machines - Hulda Clark zappers go from under $100 to well over $400

My best guess is that Gordon's new device could easily sell for $299 (or maybe $499 or $999 !) - almost an impulse purchase price for a lot of this market - so long as it had a good sales pitch to convince people they needed it. And I think, coming from Gordon, that's pretty likely.
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Old May 24, 2022, 01:36 PM
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Default A half century ago, when I was learning to visualize...

My introduction to quieting the mind was in a hypnosis setting, and once in state, visualizing myself in the back of an empty theater, or movie house. We have this great movie house in Goodyear Hts., which shows old movie for cheap and during some matinees, I could be the only person in the theater.

It became my default for visualizing a blank screen to watch the movies of my mind. Now, truthfully, I had a hard time with meditation, and getting a blank, because just as soon as I did, that big movie screen appeared...

And so, I've often wondered what other people "see" in their mind's eye while meditating.

I can't tell the difference, and when hooked up to a pulse monitor, neither can my body.

The problem I had with clearing the mind was most often, I didn't want/need to, because I could enter a state of heightened awareness...which was much better way of dealing. Being hyper sensitive to surroundings and people, I more or less feel auras, can't see them like in childhood, which I thought was just something everyone did.

But the feeling of the energy around me was very useful, and I could redirect it away or toward someone without taking it on.

So, when I tried TM in San Francisco in 1972, I had a hard time with it...whereas many were swearing by it...I struggled.

Yes, the meditation market is huge, and the HOTSHEETS idea might be viable too, especially if used as a touchstone or amulet, like the solar-vision thing I pointed out, glue some ground crystals on it, and put it in your pocket, save it for a rainy day...like catching a rainbow or falling star (thanks Perry Como).

Time. If you have some time left in your tank, and this interests you, it can be a great hobby, money maker, friend finder, and even gather a tribe around you of people who share their journeys into the ether world.

Gordon


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I really need to do my morning meditations before I read these threads.

Meditation turned around for me when I shifted from the quiet or blank the mind style to discursive. Pick a theme and explore it in depth. Whenever you get distracted trace your thoughts back to the theme again. Keep going for 15 minutes.

A small booklet (hotsheet) of meditation themes for a specific topic could be interesting. Attract your soul mate, etc. Another with a set of affirmations with instructions on how to do them effectively. A related astrological pendant might be offered in the back. Venus for love, etc...

Thanks Gordon and Glenn. You got me thinking yet again!

Eric
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Old May 24, 2022, 04:39 PM
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Great info trevord92, thanks! The zapper brings back memories. I think I tried building one after getting her book. Though that was a while ago.

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Hi Gordon & Eric

Big market - one I dabble in as an affiliate and should get more involved in

Basic meditations are free on YouTube but still plenty of people buy them - the main one I sell is https://zen12.com/ which (from memory) sells for around $50 but another one from the same company sells for $299 and Centerpointe Holosync is an order of magnitude more expensive, even if you don't go on the retreats where you listen to the CDs you've bought.

Machines - Hulda Clark zappers go from under $100 to well over $400

My best guess is that Gordon's new device could easily sell for $299 (or maybe $499 or $999 !) - almost an impulse purchase price for a lot of this market - so long as it had a good sales pitch to convince people they needed it. And I think, coming from Gordon, that's pretty likely.
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Old May 24, 2022, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: PREOCCUPATION INTERRUPTION Was New to Me - Meditation However-

Never tried building a zapper (memories of Heathkit days!) but just checked ebay and things like Parasite Cleanse kits are selling nicely still.

And Rife machines are going for 4 figure sums.
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Default Can't Find "Forbidden Persuaders" Gordon

Blair Warren explains so well in FORBIDDEN PERSUADERS. It should never get a mainstream definition, only the few, the chosen, the selected, would be taught the secrets of PI MIND CONTROL.

Thanks Gordon,

Who is Blair Warren?

I Googled and Read About him.

But not sure of his Credentials as far as Real Life Persuasion Skills.

Glenn
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Old May 27, 2022, 07:12 PM
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Default Earth Magnetism Made Me MOVE MY Bed

Thanks Gordon,

Magnetism That Made me Take Action.

So I am watching an Indian SWAMMI with a Huge White Beard on Youtube..

He says something that STARTLES ME.

So I go Out and Buy a Compass.

Then Move My Bed.

HE SAID, "Think about the pull of the North Pole on the Iron In Your Blood. More than 1/2 of Your Life you are Sleeping. So if you Sleep Feet or Head Pointed NORTH - Your Heart has to Pump Your Blood All The Way UP Your Body AGAINST the Magnetism of the North Pile - And You DIE QUICKER.

"However.

"If You Sleep at Right Angles to The North Pole. Your Heart Does Not Work so Hard while You Sleep. You Will Live Years Longer."

YIKES.

I Moved My Bed.

Thanks,
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