Comments on RJ's playboy club get together?

[MMacGillivray]

What makes you think that the Playboy club would be charging for this??

It's probably a special deal because they're getting a huge amount of free publicity.

Margaret

Margaret,

What makes you think the Playboy Club and Hugh Heffner need free publicity?

Somebody has to pay all those guards, bunnys and bouncers not to mention the maintenance crews and overhead.

Hugh knows a soft touch when he sees one and the rich jerk craves notoriety like a hungry man craves steak and cake. If he's not paying...somebody's looking like a fool. You can bet it isn't Hugh.

Sandi Bowman

[MMacGillivray]

... I'd forgotten about the "charming" Mr Heffner. Whatever the deal struck, we're never likely to know.

Meantime, I'm away to make bunny stew - aaargh, well, maybe not. More likely to be a Sunday roast

Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Margaret

I just got a newsletter update from Mark Hendricks and he won't be attending it either. Of course, he is hosting a 2 day seminar in Atlanta at that time but, from what he said, he wouldn't promote the subject of this thread anyway.

Bravo, folks! It takes guts to stand up and say 'No way...' against the likes of some of the guru names that are promoting it etc.

As for the changed items on one of Phil's posts, I'm glad it's changed but the rationalizing I see there seems laughable to me. C'mon, folks, a couple of hours pre-party for networking? Guess what the topic of conversation and speculation will be? Hint: it won't be internet business. Duh!

Sandi Bowman

P.S. What? No bunny stew, Margaret? LOL. You're right this time!

Thank you Sandi. I was beginning to think I was caught in a time warp until I found your post and the resulting discussion.

I had made a blog post on this subject a couple of days ago titled, "Why Are These Guys Associating Themselves with The Sexist Homophobic Rich Jerk?"

I started a thread on a relatively new Internet marketing forum called "ForumKnowHow". I anticipated that some members of that forum would disagree with what I said (click here to read my blog post) but I had no idea that every single member who responded disagreed with me, accused me of imposing my moral views on others, of being "politically correct," of not understanding a good marketing plan, of being opposed to free speech, etc., etc.

The owner of the forum, Robert Puddy, threatened to "lock" the thread because he said it was a "pointless" discussion. After I responded to some of the posts I agreed that if I kept debating back and forth with them that it probably wouldn't serve much purpose--since it was clear we disagreed and weren't going to change each others' minds. However, I said that I hoped he didn't lock down the thread because it had only been up for half a day and other members might have some unique perspectives and insights that we might all learn from.

I went to bed thinking, "there's got to be some women and enlightened men who belong to this forum who will post tomorrow." Oh, I forgot to mention that all the people who posted were men. After getting my daughter some breakfast and ready for summer camp I checked my email. I had received some notices of comments on the thread I had started, I clicked the link to see what other members had said, and then received a message that read, "that thread does not exist."

The owner had deleted the entire thread.

Rather ironic that with all the talk about the Rich Jerk's "right to free speech" that the thread was censored, don't you think?

So it was like a breath of fresh air to find this forum. Thank you for taking the initiative and to all those who responded.

All the Best,

Mark

Originally Posted by Sandi Bowman

Just wondering if anyone else, male or female, is having some questions raised about the latest from the 'Rich Jerk'? Seems like he's hosting a bachelor type marketing party via the Playboy Club.

Despite being 'invited' several times, I ask you: what woman in her right mind would even consider putting herself in such a situation, assuming it was 'allowed' unless she was bunny type herself? Get real, folks!

This is no more a marketing get together (despite the list of attendees) than it is a kids birthday party...but you can bet our taxes will be increased to pay for all the 'business write-offs' as a result of it.

I most strenuously object to such obvious sexism...charity or not. Just a variation on the 'old boys club' that women who wanted to conduct business had to fight against for years.

I know boys will be boys and that's okay in its place. IMHO it has no place in business.

Sandi Bowman

Glad you found us, Mark.

Thanks for sharing your experience and comments.

Sandi Bowman

Interesting on how RJ's sales page has Changed from the original link I posted...

He Obviously received Lots of Negative feedback...

But that Doesn't change the Event in any way...

I Won't be Surprised if this Event ends up on the Chopping block... As Canceled...

Putting that aside for a moment... To add a Positive note on the RJ...

Some still might not know that RJ is actually Kelly Felix...

Not unlike Many SowPubbers & Visitors who have had a Dream of starting a Business...

The Key in posting this is to show that “Kelly Felix” took some Serious Action in starting his business and just added a Controversial “twist” into the swing of things...

Even though it's an Affiliate's site and a business model that has changed Big Time, it's a Good read on the Rich Jerk... Kelly Felix...
http://tinyurl.com/2sla76

Phil

I am on Mark Hendricks newsletter list.
I have to agree with him when it comes
to RJ's Party. I posted a reply to his blog
right way after I got the email.
Look I am not a prud but every where
you look its the same thing no matter what
is being marketed from cookies to an car
they use the same tatic.There is no respect
for anything anymore and it has been that
way for the past few years.
Jumping off my soapbox now.

Bill

Hello Mark and welcome to the Seeds of Wisdom Publishing Forum.

I guess I know one forum I wont' be joining. With both the responses you received (rejecting your post, defending the "Mansion" party) and the thread being removed, tells me a lot about that group.

There are plenty of other business forums out there to choose from, and not associate with the type that would label someone a prude for the reasons you objected to the "fundraiser".

Dennis Bevers

Originally Posted by DBeavers

Hello Mark and welcome to the Seeds of Wisdom Publishing Forum.

I guess I know one forum I wont' be joining. With both the responses you received (rejecting your post, defending the "Mansion" party) and the thread being removed, tells me a lot about that group.

There are plenty of other business forums out there to choose from, and not associate with the type that would label someone a prude for the reasons you objected to the "fundraiser".

Dennis Bevers

Thank you Dennis.

And to add to the list, the Warrior Forum, the largest Internet marketing forum around, deleted a 3-page thread much of which was critical of the Playboy Party.

When I and others asked what happened to the thread, Allen Says, owner of the forum proceeded to delete our accounts.

Meanwhile, the Jerk was allowed to post a defense of his purported donation to charity, which many had questioned because the charity itself denied any knowledge of the Rich Jerk's promised donation; the only links to their site came from a poker site; and the charity wasn't registered as a 503 (c) nonprofit corporation. The Jerk didn't directly address all of the questions but then he really didn't need to because they had all been deleted by Mr. Says and his platoon of moderators.

By the way, many women voiced their concern about the event as did an equal number of men. But they were all deleted too.

For all the talk about free speech by the Jerk's defenders it's supremely ironic that those who questioned or criticised his sexist, homophobic tactics were censored.

Mark