I'm looking to re-sell internet access for a reliable company

Hi everyone. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I'm interested in reselling ISP services for a reliable company. The key word here being reliable! I've heard that there are companies that pay ongoing monthly residuals for customers that you refer to their ISP, or your private label ISP. I've also heard that some of these companies pay on multiple levels (like MLM) for ISP sign-ups.
After doing some searches on Yahoo and other search engines, I came across several companies that offer such reseller opportunities, but it's hard to tell which companies are solid and reliable and which ones may be fly-by-nights. Any advice on specific companies would be really helpful.
Thanks,
Jen

Can't help but feel how much like a set up this post sounds. Specially with all the ISP reseller opportunities out there and a single name no email address poster.

Wonder how long before another mystery person comes forward to extol the virtues of the ISP opportunity they have found - and conveniently leaves an affiliate link?

Barring all that... and assuming my "gut" is wrong... I have to ask... WHY do you want to resell internet access?

Of all the things which could be sold - insurance, coupons, vacations, fund raising, cosmetics, detergents, etc., etc., etc. - why do you want to sell internet access?

Michael Ross

> Hi everyone. I was hoping someone could
> point me in the right direction. I'm
> interested in reselling ISP services for a
> reliable company. The key word here being
> reliable!

Hi Jen,

SiteHost4U.com, owned by AMS Computer Services offers a Individual Reseller Plan and Bulk Reseller Plans. I know for a fact that they are very reliable. Several top name marketers are hosted there, and I've never had a complaint that wasn't quickly resolved to the clients satisfaction. My high recommendation of them comes from 5+ years experience of working with them ever since they bought the hosting service from James Rogers.

Any time I need a technical response from them, I will hear back from them within the hour. Weekends are a little slower because they don't have a full staff on, but they do have someone there to respond to customers 24/7.

I can't comment on their reseller plans or anyone else's because I don't re-sell hosting accounts. I place clients on their own accounts. But if they look after their re-sellers like they look after my clients and me, you can't go wrong.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan


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Jen,

I can't wait to see what Micheal has to say about this post (semi private joke), but here goes:

I was searching for a new isp when I found one that offers unlimited dial-up for $12.95, great DSL, and a network profit sharing opportunity.
I have always hated mlm, as most are scams or at least an expensive "almost-scam".

This isp seemed much different than the usual mlm because you don't have to "buy" or "sell" several hundred $ worth of cases or whatever to "keep" your active dealer status, or whatever other expensive minimums they demand just to be involved.

The first thing I did was to do some research on the company to try and find any bad feedback on them. I found none, so I signed up. Then I posted to some good forums like this one, to ask if anyone else had any knowledge of this company.

That kind of back-fired because in my excitement of having a link to post, my motives came into question. I really did still want any info I could find, even though I had already signed up. I shouldn't have put my link with my question, but it was a good educational experiance, thanks to the great folks on board here.:-)

The one place I did find some info on it was from Allen Says and some of his Warriors. Seems a lot of them were involved with it, and not much of anything negative said there.

I did not promote it at first because I wanted to see how good the service was before I sold it. There were a few minor glitches getting the connection set, but the tech support is live 24/7 and they had the bugs out asap.

The founders are working very hard to make this company a household word like aol & msn. If they do get anywhere near to that, then anyone who gets in now will be in a really good position to be making serious money. Worst case: if they don't it has cost almost nothing to be involved, and if you signup just a few you have your service free. Not much of a risk or investment to see if these guys can continue to build this service. They use all major backbone networks in the US and they are going into UK & Australia soon. Also translating to go into Europe next. This thing could be huge.

The most important thing is that the service is good, and very well priced, so it is not too hard to sell.

You can find more of my comments (and others) on a post at:
http://www.klausdahl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=745&highlight=ispvip

If you have any other questions you can send me a private message on that forum or post them here.

Now for the really touchy part:
Do I dare post my link so you can see all the company info first hand? Of course you did ask, and of course you do need to see it. My dilema is that if I post the main site without my affiliate link, then I will lose you if you do decide to sign up. You would get cookied by someone other than me, and thus lost to me forever.
On the other hand, if I use my link, then suspicious minds will interpet this to be an ad, maybe even a blatent one!:-)

Reality is that it is just my honest opinion and experiance with the company so far.

"To link or not to link, that is the question.":-)

Forgive me Michael, but I don't think it's fair to send Jen to be "cookied" by a total stranger.

Success to all, Dave Horn


All I was looking for was a new isp. I found great unlimited dialup @ $12.95 and much more.

> I can't wait to see what Micheal has to say
> about this post (semi private joke),

Don't know what Micheal would have to say about it. Don't know anyone by the name of Micheal.

On the other hand, Michael, does have something to say :o)

> I have always hated mlm, as most are scams
> or at least an expensive
> "almost-scam".

> This isp seemed much different than the
> usual mlm because

So far this sounds like every MLM out there. (We are different.) Ho hum.

> I did not promote it at first because I
> wanted to see how good the service was
> before I sold it.

Good call. Too many (nearly all) MLM promoters don't have a clue about the product (opportunity) they push. They sign on and start pushing straight away. And the pushing they do is to get others on board to do all the selling.

But they do this by telling them all they need to do is get others to do all the selling. And they, in turn, get people beneath them by telling them all they have to do is get others to do the selling. And so on and so forth ad infinitum.

Noone wants to sell the product. They all expect others to do the selling while they do nothing and make money. If only they would put as much time into selling the product as they do in selling the opportunity, then perhaps they would have a profitable MLM business.

> The founders are working very hard to make
> this company a household word like aol &
> msn.

Same ol' same ol'. Just like every other MLM out there. This sits right with "we are different."

If they do get anywhere near to that,
> then anyone who gets in now will be in a
> really good position to be making serious
> money.

See above comment. As usual... this is a ground floor opportunity.

Worst case: if they don't it has cost
> almost nothing to be involved,

It might not have cost you a lot of money - BUT - what will be the cost in lost goodwill? What will be the cost on loss of credibility of your name? How many family and/or friends will you have "stabbed in the back"?

and if you
> signup just a few you have your service
> free. Not much of a risk or investment to
> see if these guys can continue to build this
> service.

Maybe not much of a money risk, as I said. But the other risk is astronomical.

Will it happen?

Cannot say. However, it is a possibility. And going by how many other MLMs have collapsed and folded after making the same claims you make about yours, the outlook does not really look all that great. And at least mentioning the possibility is the right thing to do.

> Now for the really touchy part:
> Do I dare post my link so you can see all
> the company info first hand? Of course you
> did ask, and of course you do need to see
> it. My dilema is that if I post the main
> site without my affiliate link, then I will
> lose you if you do decide to sign up. You
> would get cookied by someone other than me,
> and thus lost to me forever.

There is no dilema. Post a link to the parent company and move along. Otherwise, it looks like the only reason you mention them is because of your affiliate link and the possibility of making a sale.

A TRUE referral is a credible thing because the referer gets nothing in return.

Think of recommending a restaurant...

Hey Bob... I know a real good place to eat. But if I just tell you, I won't get my kickback for recommending them. And not getting my kickback isn't fair. I mean, I wouldn't want the restaurant to get all your money. I want some of your money too.

That example is ludicrous but it's basically what you're saying. I don't want to link without MY link because I won't get some of the money if you sign up.

This "attitude" begs the question... if they did not offer to pay you for recommending people, would you recommend them? Would you spend the time needed to post the post you posted?

> On the other hand, if I use my link, then
> suspicious minds will interpet this to be an
> ad, maybe even a blatent one!:-)

> Forgive me Michael, but I don't think it's
> fair to send Jen to be "cookied"
> by a total stranger.

Fair... from whose point of view?

At least you are up front about it. You won't link to something unless there is some kickback in it for you.

And, of course, Jen said she wants to resell the product. So if she signs up under you, you get a part of all her sales. And now, your mention of "fair" actually makes you look like a shark... get in quick before this hardworker who might sell a lot goes with someone else, meaning you miss out again.

Sorry, Dave. I call it like I see it.

So far, Jen has NOT answered my first question. And I am still yet to be convinced that the question was not a set-up for someone to come along and post the "ta da" solution.

As for the dilema... easy fix: post two links - an affiliate link and a direct link. And mention what those links are. Maybe the sheer honesty of doing such a thing will have people click on your link instead of the company's link.

Michael Ross

Hi Steve,

Our primary business site has been hosted by SiteHost4U since '99. Their site hosting is good--otherwise obviously we wouldn't still be there.

But we haven't found them to be anything special either. We've had various problems over the years, especially with mail, and the support responses--while usually reasonably quick--leave a lot to be desired.

Typical would be "we don't support that" or "there's no problem on our end". At this stage we don't bother contacting support for glitches, as we feel it would be a waste of time.

Site uptime is generally good though, apart from one or two spells of dodgy months.

We'll move whenever we can find a reliable site & email host with decent customer support.

Mike.




Atlantic Bridge Publishing

> Our primary business site has been hosted by
> SiteHost4U since '99. Their site hosting is
> good--otherwise obviously we wouldn't still
> be there.

Hi Mike,

I understand. Since AMS Computer Services bought the business from James Rogers, I have probably (I say probably because I've lost track of the actual number) worked on over 100 websites belonging to clients, plus I have two websites hosted there.

> But we haven't found them to be anything
> special either. We've had various problems
> over the years, especially with mail, and
> the support responses--while usually
> reasonably quick--leave a lot to be desired.

My clients and I have never had any issues that were not resolved quickly.

> Typical would be "we don't support
> that" or "there's no problem on
> our end". At this stage we don't bother
> contacting support for glitches, as we feel
> it would be a waste of time.

While I can't explain any troubles you had with them, they have given my clients and me nothing less then 110%, or else I would not have recommend them to you. I'm not a re-seller of their services so I don't make anything by referring them.

One gentleman I work with who also has a website hosted by sitehost4u, decided he wanted a little more for his money. He decided to go with ecphosting.net. He says support has been fantastic. Thought I would pass this on to you. I trust his judgement, but I don't have any personal experience working on these sites or with the hosting support team. I couldn't recommend them, but they might be worth checking out.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan




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Hi Steve,

Your experience is good to hear, and certainly outranks mine by far :) Maybe you get better treatment since you bring so much business with you?

Thanks very much for the ECP link. I hadn't heard of them before, and they look quite interesting. I posted some Qs in their forum.

I can also personally recommend a similar host I've been with for a year, Voxtreme [link below]. One caveat though - they won't allow anything except tiny mailing lists, which is a deal-breaker for me. Otherwise they're very good.

Mike.


Voxtreme Reseller Host

Hi Mike,

> Your experience is good to hear, and
> certainly outranks mine by far :) Maybe you
> get better treatment since you bring so much
> business with you?

I've wondered that... but then I don't really have too much information to be able to say for sure one way or the other. There have been a couple of people who signed up for their service based on my recommendation and emailed me to tell me they were really happy with them. I've also had one person email me to tell me they weren't happy with them.

Any concerns clients have, who I placed on the sitehost4u servers, usually go through me and I deal with the support team. It is possible we get great service because I represent a substantial amount of business to them. Since I place clients on their own sites rather then re-selling sitehost4u hosting packages, I have nothing to gain by trying to keep clients locked into a service that isn't 100%. So... the support team and I have a very good working relationship, and they know I'm not obligated to them in any way to keep putting clients there. If they're anything less then 100%, I would be looking someplace else.

So you've raised a valid point — one that I don't have an answer for.

Best Regards,
Steve MacLellan


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