Announcement 1: The Secret Life Of Michael Ross

Steve,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Here's some more to Think about...

You don't preach "the secret" to others. You just seem to live it!

I don't preach The Secret because it's Mystical Something For Nothing thinking - no different than a farmer asking the rain and crop god to give him good crops.

NOT ONCE did I write down a goal of doing this. I did not write "I have a Blue Card", "I can operate an excavator" or anything else. I wrote down absolutely nothing. I had No Written Goal. They are Not Needed. The Success Report covers the why's and wherfore's of this.

I did Not Affirm anything. Not Once did I say - mentally or audibly - that I had, or would have, any thing in particular or in general. Again, The Success Report covers the why's of this too.

I did Not Visualize anything. Not Once did I imagine holding a Blue Card (didn't even know what one looked like) or operating a piece of machinery or anything related to that. Once again, The Success Report covers this.

I did absolutely None of what The Secret espouses (hence I didn't Live it). The Secret is plain old mumbo jumbo something for nothing hogwash. I am Proof it is a load of feldercarb.

It's a rare individual who can remain cheerful for 30 days straight

That was just my time In The Box. The entire time I was on the site I was Chipper. People stopped asking me how I was because they knew the answer was either going to be, Excellent!, Tops! or Fantastic! I'll let everyone else be "not bad", "could be worse" or "alright I s'pose".

Then again, I don't drink softdrink of any kind nor black tea or coffee. So my Mood isn't altered by what I consume. You might want to try it - go off the sugar and caffeine, deal with the headaches for a day or so, and then see how you feel mentally.

I just want to sit in front of the computer and dream of riches without actually doing much of anything

Yep. Sounds just like The Secret thinking to me. HA! And sounds like you've bought into it.

I'll still continue to preach "The Secret"

WHY? It's obviously Not working. So why continue to Preach it?

Think about it, seriously.

If The Secret was all it's cracked up to be, don't you think it would have worked for you by now? That is hasn't should be your own Proof it's garbage.

As far as I can tell, those who make money selling The Secret, or their own derivative of it, either made their money selling The Secret - or - made their money in other ways BUT attribute it to The Secret for their own agendas. And those who aren't rich by The Secret but who still encourage others to Follow The Secret also have something to gain by doing so - maybe an affiliate commission somewhere along the line, or they are hoping others will also buy into the Fantasy they did so they won't feel so bad about it.

I had this discussion with Nan Felding ages ago. She kept Pushing the idea of Prosperity Thinking even though she admitted she wasn't prosperous.

Humans are the highest level creatures on this planet. We are able to achieve Incredible things. And even though most people will be born, live and die and add nothing to human existence other than more humans, doesn't mean they couldn't have. They just didn't, for whatever reason.

But not one single human achievement was attained by mystical magical "Secret" thinking. It was achieve wholly and solely by a Rational Mind thinking Rational Thoughts to overcome legitimate obstacles. It was not achieve by Group Prayer or looking at photos dreamily. The moment you decide to throw out reason for mysticism is the moment you discard all that makes humans great. And you become no better than a savage who operates on instinct.

Landing on the moon was not achieved by Magik Think. It was achieved Rationally as a result of Rational Minds. Atomic Energy did not come about due to New Age Fantasy and Crystal Worship. It was achieved Rationally as a result of Rational Minds.

We laugh at the medieval peasants and their superstitions and fearfulness of witches and goblins and multiple gods. But in turn, most believe the same malarkey they did, but just call it The Secret instead.

There is only one way to achieve anything. To Rationally Think about it and to Take Action. Obviously, The Success Report can help with the Action part. But if you forgo rational thought then, at the moment, I see no way to help.

Michael Ross

P.S. I'll shortly reveal the lessons. Remember, I said there were At Least 9. There are More, but figured 9 of them would be identified.

Steve,

Michael is correct. Before I ever bought his original Success Report, I was making money exactly how he states in his report. I just didn't put it together the way he writes it out.

After reading it I agree 200% with his insight. It's not a new way or new method. It's an insight that has no glamour or mystery attached to it, but it gets the job done better than any consultant/guru/marketer/counselor can reveal to you.

It does take your attention off obtaining but in return you obtain because of the results of taking the correct action. It's a paradox, but boy does it work.

I will say, that once you read his report, a light will come on in your head. Just remember, like any light, it can go out if you don't take the correct action. But don't think your correct action is the same as Michael's, Gordon's, Dien's or anyone for that matter.

Upon re-reading The Success Report, I'm releasing Pivotal Profits In Plain Sight, in 2 days. This is a direct result of me applying my correct action.

Michael knows what I'm talking about and you will to when you grab a copy of his report. You won't be sitting in front of your computer dreaming for very long after you read his 61 page report.

Woody Quiñones
The Promotional Guy
PS. Pivotal Profits In Plain Sight is not what you think it is.

I told you DNO... Do Not Open
So why are you looking here? Ha!

Hi Michael, Boy am I pissed... not!

Thanks for your suggestion on cutting out the coffee and sugar. Good advice!

I read your Success Factor about the same time I started to study the secret by downloading the free screensaver and book at www.ScienceofGettingRich.net

The secret movie was based on that book and on the Master Key System.

I met my wife thanks to studying the secret. That led me to OZ. And now I earn more doing a one hour photo shoot than I did driving a truck for 40 hours a week. So at least for me... Einstein was right in that... "Imagination is more important than knowledge". You see... I had the knowledge of how to build a successful photography business in me for years. But I was unable to manifest it until I was able to picture myself doing it in my minds eye.

You don't seem to understand what the secret is. Your view and mine are two different things. Does that mean one of us is right while the other is wrong?

It's takes more than magical thinking to activate the secret. Action is required. There is an excellent Free Audio ebook on it here that talks about that. So maybe we are not talking about the same thing?

Everything you are now working to create first started as a thought in someones mind and when put into action... thoughts do manifest into reality. Do they not? Or are thoughts not things?

You may not have written your dreams and goals out on paper but like the science of getting rich book says... you don't have to if you visualize what you want to attract in your minds eye and ACT IN A CERTAIN WAY.

Sure I would like to just earn a fortune by sitting in front of my computer. That's a dream held by many. But just staring at the screen and wishing won't do it. So using the "O" factor as described in your Success Factor certainly works better than dreaming alone.

Now imagine that you had a mental illness but you are seldom aware of it. And your mind was possessed by a parasite called your ego. It has you convinced that you are it and it is right about everything and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and they should go stuff their own beliefs.

Do you know anyone like that?

But what if that person became more present and in tune with things and realized that his or her ego was just a mental idol that keeps them from being who they really are. Don't you think that practicing a little magical thinking can help that person to become more aware and happier? By magical thinking I mean simply paying attention to the thoughts in their head and choosing which thoughts to focus on and which ones to let go of. Wouldn't that kind of magical thinking be a good thing? Or would they be better off to close their mind off to possibility thinking and stuff it all because thats what the little parasite... that mental idol they identify with and worship tells them to do?

quote:We laugh at the medieval peasants and their superstitions and fearfulness of witches and goblins and multiple gods. But in turn, most believe the same malarkey they did, but just call it The Secret instead.

I disagree... The reason why 3 million women got burned as witches was because they listened to the parasite instead of using the secret to become more aware of their own stinking thinking. So they forked over their thought process to others and blindly followed and did as they were told by their leaders who also were possessed by their ego.

Your parasite never seems to get the best of you but I have difficulty going more than 3 hours without bumping into mine. Yours never seems to control your thoughts, actions or moods. That's why I thought that you may have been a real master that just lived the secret and you never had to magically take control of your own thinking. But maybe your stuff don't stink.

"Am I" right or "AM I" Wrong?

You tell me and I'll listen to the master!

But whatever you think... I'll still try to always appreciate your viewpoint.. even when you are obviously wrong. Pissing contests are full of it... aren't they?

Cheers,
Steve Shulenski
www.MaverickPhotographer.com

A Fun & Simple Way To Use The Secret To Attract What You Want!

Steve,

Thanks for your additional thoughts.

Let me repeat...

1. I did NOT write down any goals.
2. I did Not write down nor create nor repeat any affirmations.
3. I did Not Visualize anything - I played no Mental Movies or whatever term you want to use to describe visualization.

As This is Intrinsic to The Secret, that I did not do them means I did not use The Secret. Plain and simple. The moment a so-called Law fails is the moment the Law is proven not to be a Law at all. And instead is proven just to be "Post hoc ergo propter hoc" (Post Hoc) a Logic Fallacy which assumes, A then B therefore A caused B.

Is it true that before a person can build a building they need to have a Thought? Yes. BUT, it is also true they they need to Breathe and Consume Nutrients.

Is it true that they create a Visual Aspect of their thought - either on paper or computer screen? Yes. But it is also true that they need to use a writing device to turn their thought into a two-dimensional aspect.

So using the above Post Hoc Logic Fallacy we could now create a new law...

1. You must breathe and consume nutrients.
2. You must have a writing implement.
3. This will give a building.

The Danger in the Secret is in Post Hoc Logic Fallacy. Where you are attributing Results to things that did nothing to actually bring about the result and then saying they are a Must Have / Law.

You can Think otherwise - and believe it at your core - but it doesn't change reality anymore than millions of people thinking the world was flat at their core made the world flat. The reality of a round world existed Despite their thinking otherwise.

Just because I think and then visualize and draw - and then act - to create a building, doesn't mean I need to Visualize/affirm/writedown goals/etc. for anything else. To think that - and thus think The Secret - is to fall for Post Hoc Logic Fallacy.

Just because Think (T), Visualize (V), Draw (D) then Act (A) = Building B...

T then V then D then A = B

Doesn't mean it applies to other areas. That I did what I did without all those steps is proof it it.

Now, there is Validity to Thinking and Acting and between is the Word. But these require a balance - Thought, Word, Action.

Too much thinking is daydreaming. Too much talking is Big Talk (I'm gonna do this and gonna do that and you know the drill). Too much action is a disaster as it's unfocused without the Thought to focus it.

Further, there is this...

Person A is seen to be going for a goal. It is noticed that they...

1. Think about it constantly
2. Have a cut out of the thing they are striving for and dream about it

Therefore, thinking about something and dreaming about something will equal Wanting the thing and natural Striving will take place. That is the wrong way. That is Affirming The Consequent another Logic Fallacy.

Wanting = thinking and dreaming and striving

Thinking and Dreaming /= Increased Wanting/Belief and Increased Striving

You can either accept the logic or you cannot. But "Having A Go" at me in your subtle - it's there but not directly at you - way doesn't change the reality.

If you want to Continue to Debate The Secret - or my Stance against it - then fine. But cut out the Digs which have no place in the debate.

Michael Ross

Gee Michael, I try to drag you into a pissing contest but you're to smart to fall for it. Good for you! I do appreciate what you are saying and I must admit that your logic is sound.

In the "Success Factor" you make a darn good case where you said...

"This shows the POWER of (X). It forced them to achieve something they didn't believe they could. (so much for needing belief, as the gurus say, right?)"

I must agree that the (X) factor you reveal in your report is a real secret that works for those who use it. Now some may say that there are no secrets. But if you know it and they don't... it's a secret. And those you don't know your (X) secret would be wise to invest in your "Success Factor".

Cheers,
Steve Shulenski
www.AntiquePhotographyBusiness.com

Originally Posted by SteveSki

On my own I would take it easy and only do one or two shoots a week and goof off at the beach the rest of the time.

And what the hell would be wrong with THAT?!?!

It sounds like "The Secret" is holding you back from doing what you really want to do.

Jim

And what the hell would be wrong with THAT?!?!

Nothing if that's what you want. But I want to be
the kind of beach bum that Frank Kern is.

An underachieving in dreams only!

Cheers,
Steve Shulenski
www.MaverickPhotographer.com

An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, "only a little while."

The American then asked why didn't he stay out longer and catch more fish?

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

The American then asked, "but what do you do with the rest of your time?"

The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life."

The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But, how long will this all take?"

To which the American replied, "15 - 20 years."

"But what then?" Asked the Mexican.

The American laughed and said, "That's the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!"

"Millions - then what?"

The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."

It is Affirmations with action or it does not work, it is that simple. I don't know if the secret tells you that. C.W Stone told us that a long time ago. Action, People.