Education....

Hello: During the recent discussion here I don't believe anyone touched on something that bothers me a lot...In the USA schools today children are not required to memorize the multiplication tables and are instead given calculators to aid in doing their "figuring"...This goes on all through school and the result is that kids graduate from high school unable to answer a simple question like "What is 9x9?"...In the same vein they are also not teaching cursive writing and depend entirely on computers to write anything...Where will these kids be when their machines fail them?...We are raising a generation that can't read, write or "cipher"...What kind of "education" is that?...Doesn't make any sense to this old man!...(But then, what does "make sense" this day and age?)...

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Hello My Friends,

The same thing has happened with marketing. No one wants to establish real personal relationships any more. They are looking for the "Quick Sale" without doing what it takes to build long term sales success.

The internet is a GREAT tool, but it adds to the current treand of instant grattification. People want a e-book instantly, instead of waiting for it in the mail. Rather than talking on the phone or in person, business owners only want to communicate through e-mail. Some busines owners don't even want to send personal e-mails because it's much easier to use auto-responders.

This trend of instant grattification has filtered in every aspects of our lives. Think about the microwave. It cooks faster. People even want fast food from Mickey D's before they prepare a hone cooked meal. See....instant grattification also applies to our eating habbits too!

I hope we slow down soon because insant grattification has it's downside as previously mentioned by Rooster. Our kids can't even multiply because of calculators.

What about marketing? Do people really know the essence of marketing if they practice instant grattification tactics? Do people really like to buy without have a personal relationship with the seller? I guess these answers will come as the internet industry grows beyond leaps and bounds.

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Hi Vondre,

It's true that people want quicker and quicker "instant gratification". I have this funny feeling that if they ever develop a "Star Trek" teleporter - one of its first uses will be to instantly "teleport" products from the online store into your living room! (Maybe that's the next step towards "instant gratification" after the internet...!)

The fact is, though, that's what people want. When someone orders something - it could be a hamburger, a book, a car - they are "hungry" for that product. They want it "instantly" so the "hunger" will go away - and they can start enjoying the product.

I think it's a good personal trait to learn patience - but I don't really think it's the job of the entrepreneur or marketer to force their customers to learn "patience" by making them wait for products longer than they have to!

I've received some interesting feedback from my occasional eBay auctions.... (I sometimes sell on eBay - it's an interesting "experiment" and it can be quite profitable too.) Anyhow, due to an eBay sale I sometimes ship items to the USA from Australia.... And some of my feedback raves about how they've received the item quicker than when they've bought stuff from within the USA! Anyhow, it looks good on my feedback form. :)

(It's not really my doing of course - I just put it in the mail, and how long it reaches its destination is up to the postal service.... Sometimes to the USA from Australia it can take a couple days, and on occasion it can take up to 2 weeks.... However, I always put it in the mail by the next business day after payment is made at the latest.)

The customers always seem thrilled when they receive an item quickly. :)

The fact is - if people WANT things instantly, then you will be better off (in a business sense) if you can give it to them as quickly as possible. I just see it as a fact of life.... You can take your time, but if you do, it could mean lost customers.

I'm not always the best at this.... Sending off a product is easy. Sometimes I'm a little slow in replying to email because I like to think about things before I write - which can slow me down. This is a "flaw" I need to overcome (I need to speed up my brain!)....

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it makes you wonder how fast can things get. I guess the days of REALLY getting to know a client or customer is over.

For me, I like to personally know my customers. That includes my off-line businesses and on-line businesses.

When you have automatic systems set up to provide instant services or products, it takes away from the personal touch. I don't think it's bad, it's just a result of how business is done these days.

And yes....people love things in an instant!

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Hi Vondre,

The two don't necessarily cancel each other out. I believe in quick delivery, but also carry on correspondences with some customers too....

I don't see it as one or the other (at least not necessarily).

- Dien Rice

Dien, same here - "sometimes I'm also a little slow in replying to email because I
like to think about things before I write". And, I think that's a good thing! Then there's a request for instant messaging ... oh ...

Instant or delayed gratification, we need time to think before we act.

Hmm, the art of thinking ...

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Wow .. that's a heck of statement ...

Living in California for the past 22 years and having two (2) middle and high school respectively .. I have never heard of such a thing .. multiplication tables are a requirement in the 3rd grade and NEVER would children in our school district be allowed use or even carry a calculator in school

And by the way .. I am talking about a public
school system ...

Thanks,

WCSandMan

Hey Rooster! Here is a story for you. I just taught my 11 year old son about 3 weeks ago how to play chess. When i was a child we used to play chess and checkers during recess at school. I told him that now he can play against his friends. He looked at me with a funny look and told me no one in his class plays chess or even knows how. He said why would they play chess?? MOst of his friends have a game cube or a playstation.
I was shocked. I told him when i was a child we didn't really have those things. We had an Atari but most of us still played chess. It just shows how technology has even taken away a simple past time like checkers and chess. My 11 year old son told me so.

The big Dog!

Reminds me of something I saw on the Simpsons. A bunch of kids are sitting in the living room, twiddling their thumbs. Bart runs in and asks if anyone wants to play stickball? They all say "yay!" and then ... run over to the nintendo to play.

So true, so sad.

But then, I'm something of an optimist -- there will always be a place for catalogs like Back to Basics Toys.

--Phil

> Hey Rooster! Here is a story for you. I just
> taught my 11 year old son about 3 weeks ago
> how to play chess. When i was a child we
> used to play chess and checkers during
> recess at school. I told him that now he can
> play against his friends. He looked at me
> with a funny look and told me no one in his
> class plays chess or even knows how. He said
> why would they play chess?? MOst of his
> friends have a game cube or a playstation.
> I was shocked. I told him when i was a child
> we didn't really have those things. We had
> an Atari but most of us still played chess.
> It just shows how technology has even taken
> away a simple past time like checkers and
> chess. My 11 year old son told me so.

> The big Dog!

Here is a nice liitle post on another web site I just saw. Thought this would fit in with this thread.

Terry (Houston)

Posted by George on June 30, 2003 at 07:28:44:

Teaching Math in 1950: A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is
4/5 of the price. What is his profit?

Teaching Math in 1960: A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is
4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

Teaching Math in 1970: A logger exchanges a set "L" of lumber for a set "M" of money. The cardinality of set "M" is 100. Each element is worth one dollar. Make
100 dots representing the elements of the set "M." The set "C", the cost of production contains 20 fewer points than set "M." Represent the set "C" as a subset of set "M" and answer the following question: What is the cardinality of the set "P" of profits?

Teaching Math in 1980: A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

Teaching Math in 1990: By cutting down beautiful forest trees, the logger makes $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the forest birds and squirrels "feel" as the logger cut down the trees? There are no wrong answers.

Teaching Math in 2000: A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $120. How does Arthur Andersen determine that his profit margin is $60?

Teaching Math in 2010: El hachero vende un camion carga por $100. La cuesta de production es...

> Reminds me of something I saw on the
> Simpsons. A bunch of kids are sitting in the
> living room, twiddling their thumbs. Bart
> runs in and asks if anyone wants to play
> stickball? They all say "yay!" and
> then ... run over to the nintendo to play.

> So true, so sad.

> But then, I'm something of an optimist --
> there will always be a place for catalogs
> like Back to Basics Toys .

> --Phil