The trend in alternative medicine

Alternative medicine seems to have moved into the mainstream. Apparently 70% of Americans have tried some form of alternative therapy.

It could be a good opportunity to get into, if you have have some useful knowledge of this area.... If it works, you'll be helping some people find relief and regain health.

Which types of alternative therapy are the most popular? See the article from American Demographics magazine (linked to below) for more....

- Dien Rice


Alternative medicine moves into the mainstream....

Dien,

This is not a sales pitch...just sharing something that has made a difference in my life.

I have been interested in nutrition since I was 20. I know how the nutritional industy has used lots of hype to sell many items, but there ARE a few nutrients that give one a reason to legitimately get excited about.

There is one nutrient that is going to change many lives when the news about it's effectiveness becomes better known.

Olive Leaf Extract (OLE)

OLE is just now becoming known about in America and has been dramatically changing lives for the better for many who have not been treated successfully in the mainstream medical community for afflictions such as HIV positive patients... and for those who have only felt half-alive while struggling to make it through the day with CFIDS (chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome) or for victims of fibromyalgia (which has become a 'catch all' term for people with multiple symptoms that range from chronic muscle aches to sleep disorders) PLUS retroviruses and several other illnesses that have no known successful cures to date.

Better mention...I am NOT selling this stuff so this isn't a 'pitch' or anything. But, I was diagnosed with CFIDS back in the 80's and have had renewed struggles with it when my life has been especially stressed.

So, when a friend with Lupus excitedly told me about how this seemingly miraculous stuff had helped her, I decided to give it a try. At this point, in only 3 weeks, it has given me a sense of wellbeing that I haven't enjoyed in some time now.

That is in spite of my routinely taking numerous other supplements that help...but that's all. They just help. Olive Leaf Extract gives new hope to many who want to uplevel their sense of wellbeing and it has the ability to fight the new SUPER-BUGS for which no known antibiotic can touch. Now, that really turned my head.

So, since you opened this subject, thought I'd contribute this information perchance that it may help another person visiting this board or someone they know.

One of the books I read on Olive Leaf Extract by Morton Walker can be found at amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1575662264/o/qid=982253730/sr=2-1/107-3561232-8620518

Anyone interested can also read the reviews left by some excited readers to get an idea how life changing this nutrient may be to many who are yet to hear of it.

I am also linking to East Park Research which has patented a process for extraction that is supposedly superior to others. This site also gives a detailed list of diseases/disorders that Olive Leaf Extract (OLE) has been known to help or even reverse. Absolutely amazing.

I think this is one of the most valuable nutrients on the market today, but that is just my opinion. Again, I AM aware of all the hype in the industry, but I think this is worthy of mentioning since it is totally in a league of it's own.

If you or someone you know is plagued by chronic viruses, infections, allergies, or is HIV positive, etc. - the natural antibiotic, antiviral, antifungal, antiparasitic action of this nutrient may make a BIG difference in your life.

Because... OLE has the ability to get inside of the cells and kill stubborn viruses which makes it extremely unique and effective.

Hope this helps someone. Again, I have no financial interest in this product, but just have a desire to share what I've learned after doing my own research and noticing the difference it is already making in my own health.

And, interestingly enough, it is the chronic use of antibiotics which has led to many health problems that are difficult if not impossible to treat...until the effectiveness of OLE became better known throughout the world. But still, it is mostly unknown to most people at this point in time.

Who knows...you may cross someone's path who needs this and you can at least point them to a book which has well documented information about OLE.

~ Amber


One place to obtain Olive Leaf Extract mentioned in Dr. Walker's book

Thanks Amber!

This kind of information is always valuable, otherwise how would we learn about something new? :)

Like you, I've had a long interest in alternative therapies.... I think with me, it started when I had to study hard before the exam period as a university student! I read a book about how certain vitamins could help the brain function better, so I purchased some of these vitamins from a local "health food" store, and I thought they probably helped! :)

Then, about six years ago (I was still doing my Ph.D.), I shared an apartment with a guy who had a HUGE collection of books about alternative therapies.... Almost anything you could think of, he had it there.

So I was first exposed to things like traditional chinese herbs, tai chi (which many people feel helps their well-being), and even some kind of therapy where you drink your own urine (he even had a book on that!) I didn't try the last one out myself! My thoughts on the last one are, your body is getting rid of the urine for a reason.... But I'm all for research. :)

Thanks Amber for mentioning Olive Leaf Extract.... I'm sure many will find it useful! It *does* happen (in fact, it's not all that uncommon) that medicine does take from "traditional" therapies.... though you often don't know it, since they just take the extracts, which is often quite a different name from the original herb. (Such as silymarin, which comes from milk thistle, which I mentioned in the reply to John Williams....)

Thanks Amber! If you have a serious medical condition, of course you should first consult with your doctor, however this is a great post about something we wouldn't know about before.... :)

- Dien

> Thanks Amber!

> This kind of information is always valuable,
> otherwise how would we learn about something
> new? :)
I just remembered that Rosemary Stanton covers some of this stuff in one (or more) of her books.
A cynical friend who did some checking up because he had some serious health problems and had to be careful what he even tried, let alone took regularly, said that he beleived she was one of the few reliable sources of information he had found.
Sorry, but I don't have the title handy and my friend died recently, probably due to surgeon's mis-diagnosis.


Come to the Magic Shop & learn to be an honest crook!

Dien and everyone -

I'm a total alternative medicine devotee, having been misdiagnosed for liver cancer and seriously advanced strep throat by conventional medicine.

I practice qiqong and tai chi daily, and my main doctors are a chiropractor/physical therapist, an accupuncturist/herbalist, and my massage therapist.

I take a variety of herbs recommended in a book called "Left for Dead" by Dick Quinn, including cayenne pepper for the heart and arteries, ginger, garlic, Omega 3 and 6, and various vitamins. I exercise daily, without being excessive and watch my diet without depriving myself.

I question all alleopathic medical treatments (based on getting my 83 year old mother down from about 17 medications to 7 after questioning the so-called medical doctors) and have an extensive library of medical references (including Listen to Your Pain by Ben Benjamin - a great reference for diagnosing and treating muscle strains and pains).

As you can tell, I'm passionately in favor of alternative medicine. Thanks for the thread.

Bob

Hi Bob,

The book you mentioned in your post ~ "Left For Dead" is another one of those *special* books that can be life changing if you take Dick Quinn's advice to heart. I have also used his special formulation with the African cayenne pepper. Wow!

And, I was fortunate to be able to personally meet and study for a few days with Ben Benjamin when he came to Houston, some years ago now, to teach a pain seminar to MT's and physical therapists. (Ben Benjamin is the author of "Listen to Your Pain" ~ the other book that you mentioned in your post.)

I am a registered massage therapist in the state of Texas and through my involvement with that profession, I have learned a lot of things that have helped me so much along the journey back to good health that I have been on.

Even though I haven't been active professionally for the last several years as an MT, I still keep up my yearly registration and have taken more continuing education and try to stay current with what's going on by reading the professional journal for MT's. It is a fascinating area to work in, but quite demanding physically. :)

When I was formally studying massage therapy in preparation for the certification exam and qualifying for registration, my class practiced tai chi as an elective part of our program. I got away from it, but just bought an instructional tai chi video tape by Xue Dejun to refresh my memory and plan to get back into it.

For those who don't know what it is...Tai Chi involves beautiful ancient chinese movements to calm the body and mind and to energize every cell and organ. It also helps with balance and coordination. Even just watching others do it is so calming to me.

Thanks Bob, for telling us what works for you.
I'm glad that you also find value in massage therapy.

Great!

~Amber

my monthly massages help keep me healthy, flexible and sane! I tend to vary between deep tissue and shiatsu, to keep the old bod guessing:-)

And you're right, that cayenne is something, but easily adapted to over a short time. I take it seriously as my Dad dropped dead of a heart attack in his early forties (on his way home from the hospital after a physical!!!!)

Bob

Hi Amber!

I read your post and checked out the site you linked to. ALARM BELLS SOUNDED!

Before I tell you why, first let me say, I am a great advocate of "alternative" treatments.

That doesn't mean I will rush out and buy into the lastest thing. I don't.

I do, however, weigh up the available information and THINK about it.

Without having tried this OLE, let me tell you why alarm bells went off in my head...

The first alarm bells went off when I read this: "We Invented It We Patented It" on the front of their website.

They have a patent?!?!?!?!?

It's funny how any treatment that cannot be patented is looked down upon by the medical profession and the pharmaceutical companies. I wonder why? (insert sarcasm here).

I'll come back to this thing about patents in a bit.

The next alarm bells sounded when I read, "It has been used by over 4,000 doctors, 10 major hospitals, and 15 countries."

I notice is says HAS BEEN and NOT IS. There's a huge difference.

Also, in what capacity was it used? As an actual treatment? As a toilet cleaner?

I can pick any toilet cleaning chemical used in a hospital and then tell people to drink it with the assurance it's used in x number of hositals.

See my point?

Also, are these Doctors who HAD used it medical doctors or non-medical PhDs? Or NDs?

The hospitals... are they government funded hospitals? Private hospitals? Or private "cliniques" using the term Hospital?

WHO are these institutions who HAD used it so I may verify this for myself?

The next alarm bell went off when I read this, "...licensed exclusively by..."

As with the patent I'll come back to this.

The next alarm bell sounded when I read this, "Olive Leaf Extract's Effectiveness Against Certain Pathogens Invitro"

What has being effective against things in a test-tube got to do with being effective against things in the body.

Heck, I could drop of few bugs in 18 molar hydrochloric acid and they'd all die. But that's no reason for me to drink 18 molar hydrochloric acid.

Okay, so my example is over the top. But it uses the same logic as they do. And that's no proof of anything.

The next alarm bell sounded when I saw they claim an effectiveness against HIV/AIDS.

First, AIDS is NOT a bug, pathogen, virus or any other thing. It's a condition.

HIV is a virus. However, the detection of it within the body is only achieved AFTER the body is immune to it.

To say that something we are immune to can create a degenerative condition is idiotic.

And further more, not all sufferers of AIDS test positive for HIV. Which means, they get AIDS from some other source.

Add to this that the HIV/AIDS connection was made on dubious grounds by someone who has a stake in AZT, the only recommened chemical treatment for AIDS, and I question the connection.

It's interesting to note, that like this OLE, AZT is also "licensed" and "patented".

A company that claims to want to help people get better has questionable ethics when they do everything in their power to exclusively own the treatment.

Be the first and be the best instead of trying to prevent others. That is a true sign of your claim to want to help mankind.

To read more about the questionable relation between HIV/AIDS visit Dr Peter Deusberg's site at http://www.duesberg.com/

The next alarm bell sounded when I read their claims about symptoms.

Let me tell you what REALLY happens when you "get sick."

The virus/bacteria enters your body. For the sake of the example, lets assume this is a throat infection.

The Invader lodges into the mucus lining your throat and goes about multiplying in the underlying cells.

This IS detected by your body by what I'll call Hunter-Killers. These Hunter-Killers constantly roam throughout our body looking out for Invaders.

Upon discovering these Invaders they use a shotgun approach and "blast" the entire area in the hopes they get it. And they continue blasting until the Snipers turn up later.

The debris caused by all this blasting has to be cleaned up. Lets call the things that do this, the Cleaners.

As the Cleaners are being overwhelmed by the amount of debris they call for back up. They call for back up by releasing a chemical.

This chemical makes us feel nauseous and gives us aches. This chemical makes us feel sick!!!

At this point in time, our throat is feeling sore. Not because of the bug, but because the Hunter-Killers have damaged it greatly.

While this is going on a call is taken to the Sniper Room (the lymphatic system). Bits of the bug are brought and a Memo is circulated to all T-cells asking if they recognise the Invader.

While this "memo" is circulating looking for the T-cell who recognises and knows how to kill the invader, the Hunter-Killers keep blasting and making our throat more sore, the Cleaners keep clearing debris and calling for back which makes us feel more ill.

Once the Sniper who knows how to kill this Invader is found he is ushered into the Cloning Room (Lymph Gland).

Once inside the Cloning Room our body temperature rises. This does two things. One, it helps slow down the multiplying rate of the Invader and increases our metabolism so Cloning happens faster. (Rising temperature can happen before cloning)

After a sufficient number of Snipers have been cloned (the lymph glands are quite swollen now) they are released to "deal" with the Invader.

As they are Snipers they take out the Invader specifically using a rifle approach and they do it double quick time.

If you have a sore and raspy throat, it's not because your body's immune system isn't working, it's because it is!

If you seem to have it for a while it's beause it's taking a while for the Memo to be found by the Specialist Sniper.

If you ache and feel nauseous, it's your body's doing NOT the Invader's. The Invader would like nothing more than to remain undetected for they know that once deteced they are doomed. So they aren't going to go about doing anything to cause unwanted attention.

If you have a fever, it's because your body is fighting the Invader by raising your body temperature which slows the Invaders ability to mulitply while increasing the speed at which your body multiplies the fighting mechanisms.

The increased body temperature, aches and pains and nauseous feelings are all caused by our body and are a sign our body's immune system is functioning quite well thank you very much.

Doctors don't want you to know this. Otherwise you wouldn't come to them when your throat is sore.

But now you know your throat is sore because your body is fighting something and doing it well, not because something is there overwhelming your body.

So, what these manufactures accuse Doctors of, they are even more guilty of... or they don't know. And if they don't know, I question any health information they provide.

Individually, these things don't mean a whole lot, but when taken together they do...

• Patented treatment.
• Licensed treatment.
• Product which HAS been used not IS used.
• Reluctance to name healing places which use the product so I can verify it myself.
• Reluctance to reveal in what capacity the product was used.
• Lab results only which prove nothing and which are easily duplicated using any harsh chemical.
• No distinction between HIV/AIDS when they are two separate things.
• Implying the symptom is the disease when the symptom is a sign our body is fighting quite well.

Two well known methods for extracting the goodness out of a plant are really the same method - by making a tea or tincture (acoholic). In either case, the goodness leaves the leaf/root and goes into the liquid.

You can therefore make your own Olive Leaf Extract by simple making a tea from olive leaves.

However, a feeling of "wellness" could also be something to be wary of.

Remember, if I feel sick it's because my body is making me sick on purpose. By masking this feeling who knows what I'm doing.

I could be interfering with my body's fighting mechanism and giving the Invader what it longs for... peace and quiet to go about its way.

By examination of my own illnesses over time, and those of my wife, and with correspondence with others... I have discovered a large part of the problem is a result of our modern environment.

For instance... lino and carpet give off fumes and carpet also gives off fibres. If you have a breathing problem of any kind it could be caused by your body's inability to cope with the fumes and fibres from lino/carpet.

You may even be unable to handle the fumes coming from the foam in your sofa, or pillow, or mattress.

Does the windscreen of your car get foggy even when it's not raining? That's the residue of the fumes coming off of your dashboard. Every time you get in your car you breath them in.

Your laminate and 'craftwood' kitchen gives of fumes.

As with a lot of things, our body can handle small doses. But they have a compounding effect.

Lead free fuel is well known to contain cancer causing agents and there's even some evidence to suggest that CFS is related to unleaded fuel, its fumes and exhaust.

If your skin breaks out because of something you've eaten - a "rash" developes. It's a sign your liver cannot filter that substance fast enough. To prevent it from circulating throughout your body, it is stored out of harms way in the skin.

So a skin reaction means two things... 1; your liver cannot filter the substance fast enough for some reason... 2; your body is working correctly by keeping the substance out of the blood while the liver gradually gets rid of it.

The active ingredient in a lot of arthritis relief creams is the same thing that gives a Hot Pepper its heat. Take some Cayeen Powder, make a paste with some vegetable oil and you have your own version of the cream.

Cayenne has many other wonderful properties. You could almost call it Nature's Snake Oil. Do your own research and see for yourself. I use/consume it daily.

You want to increase your immune system's ability to fight things off? Then remove the items in your life that constantly weaken it or have it always on the go - such as the fumey items I mentioned and others you find.

As for bacteria which is resistant to modern anti-biotics...

Research "Colloidal Silver" for a non-patentable OLD method.

Discover the hidden Russian secret of killing resistant bacteria with Phage - naturally-occuring bacterior-specific viri that change as the bacteria changes.

Anyway. That's my take on it.

And Amber, I'm curious about your CFIDS. I did a bit of reading about it at the CFIDS Association of America at http://www.cfids.org/

What I am curious about is... do you recall when you first began to suffer the symptoms?

If so, can you also recall ANY change in your environment? Did you get new furniture around that time? Glue down tiles in a new kitchen? Start driving a car which runs on unleade fuel? Move to a location which could see you exposed to unleaded fuel fumes/exhaust? Move to a location near high-power power lines? Move to a location near a farm which regularly "sprays"? Build an add-on carport or garage in a location that could mean fumes/exhaust from the coming and going of your car would enter your house? Lay down new carpet or lino?

If you can identify any of the above with the beginning of your CFIDS, can you now match up your "attacks" with other exposures to the same thing?

Like, maybe you got an attack after visiting a friend who had recently got new furniture, or something like that.

I'm curious because the symptoms of CFIDS indicate to me an overall overwhelming of the body. And that can only happen by constant exposure to something your body cannot handle very well.

If you cannot immediately identify a connection, have you ever kept an "Attack diary"? A diary which keeps track of the things (chemicals/fumes/etc.) you're exposed to and cross-references those exposures with times of attack.

I'd rather discover the sofa I keep getting recovered every twelve months is making me sick and get rid of it, then not know and mask the symptoms with a suppliment.

Anyway Amber. I'm really curious if you can match a change in your enviroment with your CFIDS. I'm curious because I believe that's where the cause and your solution is. And it'd be a real shame to suffer needlessly when the answer could be so simple. Wouldn't it be incredible if all you had to do was change the brand of washing powder you use? (washing powder leaves residue on the clothes which gets onto and absorbs through your skin)

Of course, I understand if you'd rather not disclose details of your CFIDS.

From thorough analysis of my environment I've been able to find a direct connection between breathing problems I had and later foot problems, with lino! And that's just one example.

By the way, I am NOT a licensed medical practitioner and have no formal qualifications in the field of medicine. Everything written here is my opinion based from the deductions and conclusions from my own research and experiences.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Good luck Amber. I hope you get to the bottom of it.

Michael Ross.

Hi Michael,

Good post! I was sitting here wondering how to nutshell a response to you...and I've never been good at that, but I'll try. :)

First, it is important to know that olive leaf extract has been used as a non-toxic remedy for thousands of years. It has a very interesting history.

In 1969, researchers performing molecular analyses in a well known pharmaceutical company in Michigan uncovered the main antimicrobial ingredient present in the phenolic compound Oleuropein which was isolated from the olive leaf.
This antimicrobial ingredient was identified as the calcium salt of elenolic acid; chemically known as calcium elenolate.

It was found by the researchers for the pharmaceutical company to inhibit the growth of EVERY virus, bacterium, fungus, yeast and protozoon that it was tested against.

They wanted to introduce it to the marketplace as a patented new drug - a virucide...because there weren't any protected by patent and available for sale at that time.

But, the pharmaceutical company researchers couldn't find a way to stop the calcium elenolate from binding to proteins in blood serum which rendered it ineffective. So, they made a business decision to discontinue the research and their plans to commercialize it were finished.

But, another research company continued on where the pharmaceutical company left off and they developed a proprietary process which they went on to patent. On their website you can read about this and why it makes their product 'different'. But I have had good results using another brand but may give theirs a try as well and see if I notice a difference.

Yes, you can think of Olive Leaf Extract as a food since you can grow your own tree and make a tea from the leaves. That works too!

In the 220+ page book I referenced in my other note, it is filled with facts from research of the worlds's published medical literature on olive tree related products and from files and personal interviews, by the author, of informed health professionals who have used it to treat patients. Doctors in the U.S. and Canada are quoted and mentioned in the book.

An interesting side note* The Hungarian government had adopted OLE as it's official anti-infectious disease remedy.

What interests me is that it is known that because of immune system degradation among many in the western industrialized countries, we are suffering from often inexplicable afflictions brought on by certain disease producing microorganisms that have no known treatments. Many patients are left on their own to figure out how to best help themselves. Most physicians are not trained in how to help people uplevel their health or in preventive health care. They are trained to diagnose and use medicine. Period.

In the case of people with weakened immune systems from cancer treatments or the use of drugs to keep from rejecting transplanted organs, or the long term usage of broad spectrum antibiotics for treating infections (this is what is impacting the lives of many who are unhealthy and trying to figure out what their problem really is)... these people are targets for all sorts of additional problems such as fungal infections.

So, along with many new viruses, there is a rising tide of treatment resistant fungi.

A quote from the book..."While we've become accustomed to appreciating the problems of antibacterial resistance, this level of resistance by fungi to antifungal drugs is historically unprecedented," says Thomas J. Walsh, M.D., head of the immunocompromised host division of the National Cancer Institute of Bethesda, Maryland.

Unlike bacteria, fungi have chromosomes, cells with a true nucleus bounded by a nuclear membrance and exhibit mitosis. Because their cellular structure is so similar to our own, it is difficult to develop drugs that inhibit their growth WITHOUT acceptable toxicity.

Synthetic antifungal drugs are just too poisonous to use. Their adverse side effects are overwhelming.

So, in contrast...Olive leaf extract (OLE) is nontoxic in the recommended dosages and it has the ability to kill the invading fungus rather than merely inhibiting it's growth.

Today, I went into a health food/nutrition store and had a lengthy chat with an assistant manager. She told me that she is hearing all sorts of wonderful testimonies from the people who walk in to buy OLE and then return to buy it over and over. She used gave it to her dog that was on the verge of being put to sleep from old age problems and she said he is a new dog now - with beautiful fur and his body has filled out again like a younger pup. Said he is all feisty and playful. :)

Dr. Walker's book mentions so many therapeutic applications...to numerous to mention in this post. I would suggest that anyone read the book before trying OLE.

The book does speak about a possible 'die off' reaction of the toxins in our bodies...so one would need to start slowly if they are really ill AND drink lots of water to help assist in the elimination of the bad stuff from your body. This is helpful information since it may frighten some who have never experienced a Herxheimer ('die off') reaction when beginning a nutritional supplement that is powerful enough to begin the necessary 'housecleaning' in your body.

Michael...since you seemed so interested:
My CFIDS started in 1984. I developed swollen glands and fever after our home flooded during a hurricane. Felt flu-y a lot. Then I developed a lung infection that lasted five months. I was given several rounds of powerful antibiotics which only made me worse.

Finally the doctor said the strange infection would just have to 'run it's course' and threw up his hands after he had exhausted his 'guesses'. I was incredibly weak. Overheard the doctor speak to the nurse about checking me for leukemia. It was a frustrating time since I had put my faith in the medical community and they were puzzled. In the meantime, I mostly slept and barely functioned.

I had been exposed to high levels of mycotoxins after the flood and during the repairs - wet sheetrock and insulation and furniture, etc.
Now it is thought I probably had a serious aspergillus infection in my lungs. From breathing mycotoxins in after our flooding.

Currently, the word is spreading about how dangerous it is to live in a home during repairs from water damage that causes mold problems. There have been several tv programs lately in our viewing area that are addressing this danger. Many people have become ill and there is a new clinic north of Houston that now addresses this problem and treating people coming in from all over the world. They use nutritionals! I have a friend who is going there right now after her home flooded and she became ill. It is expensive though. Very. She is still undergoing the diagnostic testing for antibodies to the dangerous mycotoxins from the fungi and molds she was exposed to.

A good place to learn more about the molds that make us sick and can lead to major illnesses can be found at http://www.mrmildew.com in his glossary.

During the repair of my home and with new furnishings and the installation of new carpet, I got even MORE ill. That was overloading my already weakened system. Formaldehyde, on all the new fabrics as a finishing agent, was just about my undoing!

Sick house syndrome. Multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS) - Environmental Illness. I became a doctor's worst nightmare since many aren't equipped to handle these kind of patients.

Since then, I have had dramatic and exaggerated reactions to common medications and ended up with some scary infections that resulted in cultures that frightened the doctor since they were considered life threatening.

I went to many specialists and got the CFIDS diagnosis. Fortunately, I did find a really good M.D. about a hundred miles away. I read a book he co-authored (with this same Dr. Walker who wrote this one about OLE) on systemic fungal infections many years ago (out of print now) and located this wise doctor because of finding out about him through the book.

He treats nutritionally and helped to guide me back to an improved state of health. But it is an ongoing challenge since we still live on the coast and have flooded repeatedly during tropical storms and hurricanes and even just spring-time rain downpours. I'll be so glad when we can move farther inland and I want to live high up on a hill someday! :)

I won't elaborate more about my health history on this board since it's not the place...but thank you for your interest and it does sound like you have a good grasp on understanding the problems associated with CFIDS and MCS, and probably most other disorders as well.

So, the bottom line is that in my weakened state and recovery from mold related illness, I was hit by multiple things that simple nutrients weren't always successfully addressing.

So, learning about and trying OLE gives me renewed hope that it is one more thing I can add for my personal use... but of course I DO totally believe that everyone has to read and educate themselves until they are convinced that giving any nutrient a try is a valid use of their money.

But, for people like me, I do believe it is worth a shot. It's only been three weeks and maybe it is just a coincidence that I am feeling better than usual, but if all the research that has been done on OLE is to be believed, then it doesn't seem strange to me that I am responding positively to it...so far.

Whew! This wasn't a 'nut shell' response Michael. Sorry. :)

Best Wishes!
Amber




Information about nasty molds that produce myotoxins that can make you very ill!