A fascinating discussion between Scott Adams and Stefan Molyneux

Don't let the title of this video throw you... only a very small portion is about politics. https://youtu.be/EsH17taSBzo

These two atheists (although Scott doesn't claim he is) both make sense.... one for Hillary and the other for Trump, still get along fabulously well for two irrational, crazy people. Scott endorses Hillary for the same reason that Gordon prefers her over Trump.

These two guys are both brilliant! If you are interested in Hypnosis, Psychology, Persuasion, Science, Religion, Politics and being an Entrepreneur, then you may want to watch this one. The video gets really interesting when Scott mentions Robert Cialdini's new book... Pre-Suasion and how Cialdini is helping Clinton.

Cheers,
SteveSki

PS... You may want to do what I did by downloading the video as an MP3 audio file so you can listen to it while exercising instead of sitting on your butt watching it.

[Dien Rice]

Originally Posted by SteveSki

Don't let the title of this video throw you... only a very small portion is about politics. https://youtu.be/EsH17taSBzo

These two atheists (although Scott doesn't claim he is) both make sense.... one for Hillary and the other for Trump, still get along fabulously well for two irrational, crazy people. Scott endorses Hillary for the same reason that Gordon prefers her over Trump.

These two guys are both brilliant! If you are interested in Hypnosis, Psychology, Persuasion, Science, Religion, Politics and being an Entrepreneur, then you may want to watch this one. The video gets really interesting when Scott mentions Robert Cialdini's new book... Pre-Suasion and how Cialdini is helping Clinton.

Cheers,
SteveSki

PS... You may want to do what I did by downloading the video as an MP3 audio file so you can listen to it while exercising instead of sitting on your butt watching it.

Hi Steve,

Thanks for sharing this... I haven't watched it yet, but I like your idea of downloading it as an MP3 and listening to it instead. Their bobbing heads are not exactly compelling watching, so I don't think I'll miss anything too important by listening, rather than watching!

I've been following Scott Adams since last year, particularly his comments on Trump, but also his comments on Hillary too. He is pretty much the only commentator who comments on their use of persuasion principles.

One interesting thing is that since Bernie Sanders dropped out, Scott Adams feels he's detected a shift in Hillary's use of persuasion techniques. He feels Hillary's use of them has improved immensely since Sanders dropped out. He attributes this to some new advisors who are probably helping her. Among them are one he calls "Godzilla" - which refers to Robert Cialdini.

Prior to that point, Hillary was trying to use logic and reason, and now she's mostly hitting emotional points, which seems to be helping her. Donald Trump, in contrast, has always hit emotional points.

One thing I find interesting is Donald Trump seems to be using some form of "outrageous marketing." In the primaries this worked well as it got him an avalanche of media attention. In fact, I remember seeing figures which said that in the primaries, Donald Trump got more media coverage than all his competitors combined.

Now, in the general election the "outrageous" approach isn't helping him as much. It is probably harder for him to "drown out" his opponent in the general election since there are only two of them left now. Also, as it gets closer to "really" electing the president, people start paying more attention and the "outrageousness" starts to be taken more seriously, which might hurt him.

I look forward to listening to the interview!

Best wishes,

Dien

[GordonJ]

Originally Posted by Dien Rice

Hi Steve,

Thanks for sharing this... I haven't watched it yet, but I like your idea of downloading it as an MP3 and listening to it instead. Their bobbing heads are not exactly compelling watching, so I don't think I'll miss anything too important by listening, rather than watching!

I've been following Scott Adams since last year, particularly his comments on Trump, but also his comments on Hillary too. He is pretty much the only commentator who comments on their use of persuasion principles.

One interesting thing is that since Bernie Sanders dropped out, Scott Adams feels he's detected a shift in Hillary's use of persuasion techniques. He feels Hillary's use of them has improved immensely since Sanders dropped out. He attributes this to some new advisors who are probably helping her. Among them are one he calls "Godzilla" - which refers to Robert Cialdini.

Prior to that point, Hillary was trying to use logic and reason, and now she's mostly hitting emotional points, which seems to be helping her. Donald Trump, in contrast, has always hit emotional points.

One thing I find interesting is Donald Trump seems to be using some form of "outrageous marketing." In the primaries this worked well as it got him an avalanche of media attention. In fact, I remember seeing figures which said that in the primaries, Donald Trump got more media coverage than all his competitors combined.

Now, in the general election the "outrageous" approach isn't helping him as much. It is probably harder for him to "drown out" his opponent in the general election since there are only two of them left now. Also, as it gets closer to "really" electing the president, people start paying more attention and the "outrageousness" starts to be taken more seriously, which might hurt him.

I look forward to listening to the interview!

Best wishes,

Dien

Trump's great speech last week, using teleprompters and the shift in advisors, has him less outrageous and more mainstream.

Hillary's rise in the polls (so what) may be a result of their role reversal...she is more emotional, he is being handled...

by the good old boys...

And they are transforming him into the kind of pocketician he has railed against ... Trump being handled...is a Chump Trump.

Fun stuff to see, will he tow the line, or go off on a rant...if he wants to stay in, I say Rant Donny Rant. Otherwise, we get the same old BS we've always gotten.

GordonJ

[GordonJ]

Originally Posted by SteveSki

Don't let the title of this video throw you... only a very small portion is about politics. https://youtu.be/EsH17taSBzo

These two atheists (although Scott doesn't claim he is) both make sense.... one for Hillary and the other for Trump, still get along fabulously well for two irrational, crazy people. Scott endorses Hillary for the same reason that Gordon prefers her over Trump.

These two guys are both brilliant! If you are interested in Hypnosis, Psychology, Persuasion, Science, Religion, Politics and being an Entrepreneur, then you may want to watch this one. The video gets really interesting when Scott mentions Robert Cialdini's new book... Pre-Suasion and how Cialdini is helping Clinton.

Cheers,
SteveSki

PS... You may want to do what I did by downloading the video as an MP3 audio file so you can listen to it while exercising instead of sitting on your butt watching it.

Thanks Steve,

I listened to the whole thing over the last 3 days. Took copious notes, some good analysis of what is happening to Trump, who just entered (according to Adams) the third and final act of his campaign.

I'd like to point out a few things, lessons perhaps, we can learn from.

Scott Adams (SA) is on a book tour. Today, instead of going to stores, these are done via blogs. In fact, they even have a BlogTour you can pay for and get interviewed on.

In his book, he targets GOALS as the antagonist, and his "systems" as the protagonist. Note how he deftly sets this up, the reason he is on tour is to sell books.

From the Blair Warren one sentence (throw rocks at enemies) influence strategy to the Art of War, it is good to create a tension...

A strategy of sides, this or that.

Goals and systems are NOT mutually exclusive, in fact they work hand in hand, but throughout this interview, SA shows his patience listening to the host ramble on, and then deftly turns his answer back to the goal...of selling more books.

Yes, there are some good ideas in this conversation, but peel back a layer and look to the purpose and intent of the whole thing...SA is suddenly HOT NEWS, popping up all over the Internet, being interviewed everywhere, and doing a great job. I feel this is just as important a lesson in behavior and persuasion as anything he says (which is pretty well known stuff).

As an expert in persuasion, observe SA closely from now until election, watch him grow even bigger as a commentator,
see him exploit the election,
read his blog to follow his 3 act play he set up about Trump...

And you may get as good an education in media manipulation and self promotion, done right in front of you, sort of a making an elephant in the room disappear trick...

And come away with an even better lesson of persuasion, one which you might be able to apply to your own work. His book is on the rise, and his star is shooting across the skies.

And he no longer is the cartoon guy, he's the HOTTEST political analyst out there.

The book is good, and the best part of it is his acknowledgement that he is selling a book. Love it.

GordonJ

Who will be the winner of tonight first presidential debate of 2016?

Trump will most likely win. Even Scott Adams has abandoned Hillary and now
endorses Trump...

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1509194...rom-clinton-to

Cheers,
Steve

[Dien Rice]

Originally Posted by SteveSki

Who will be the winner of tonight first presidential debate of 2016?

Trump will most likely win. Even Scott Adams has abandoned Hillary and now
endorses Trump...

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1509194...rom-clinton-to

Thanks Steve,

Scott Adams wrote the following (from your link)...

"5. Pacing and Leading: Trump always takes the extreme position on matters of safety and security for the country, even if those positions are unconstitutional, impractical, evil, or something that the military would refuse to do. Normal people see this as a dangerous situation. Trained persuaders like me see this as something called pacing and leading. Trump “paces” the public – meaning he matches them in their emotional state, and then some. He does that with his extreme responses on immigration, fighting ISIS, stop-and-frisk, etc. Once Trump has established himself as the biggest bad-ass on the topic, he is free to “lead,” which we see him do by softening his deportation stand, limiting his stop-and-frisk comment to Chicago, reversing his first answer on penalties for abortion, and so on. If you are not trained in persuasion, Trump look scary. If you understand pacing and leading, you might see him as the safest candidate who has ever gotten this close to the presidency. That’s how I see him."

That's pretty good stuff, and a good education...

I'm not 100% sure this is a good thing for a politician to do - but there's no doubt that "pacing and leading" can work. It's probably a lot easier to do when you're one-on-one with a person, or at least with a lot of people who think alike... When you have a whole nation of diverse opinions, "pacing and leading" with one group would lead to alienation with another...

But - still a fascinating lesson!

Best wishes,

Dien

P.S. Oh, who won the debate? From what I read...

Apparently the Mexican peso won the debate!



http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...to=USD&view=1D

....with all the attention they have been giving to Clinton's health....after the debate there has been no mention of her right eye during the debate.

I'm so disappointed with Trump's poor performance during the first debate.

Hillary did the better job forcing Trump to play defense instead of mounting a strong offense.

Trump clearly did not prepare for the debate.

He thought he could just wing it and he got his butt kicked by a clever woman.

Shame on Trump...

He may be a good negotiator but he's not a good salesman.

He could have closed the deal if he had only taken the debate seriously and prepared for it.

I hope he learned from it and comes out swinging in the next round. People call him a bully anyway so why pull punches and hold back like he did?

Or perhaps it was part of his strategy, Steve. There are two more debates so he's saving up his ammo for when it matters the most, when people are paying the most attention - mere weeks before the election.

She used up most of what she has on him. He held back and told us he was holding back. Why? Because he was afraid? Hardly. Because he didn't want to hurt the snowflake's feelings? Not quite. You and I could come up with two dozen things he could have brought out, but why didn't he? What's the strategy here?

With regard to his taxes, he's doing the exact same thing Obama did with his birth certificate, stalling, dragging it out, prolonging it, making his detractors look foolish and desperate. Sure, Trump could put it to rest, so why doesn't he? It's part of his strategy I think.

What he said about Miss Piggy. Hillary's said far worse things about Bill's victims so why didn't he hammer that point home?

He didn't get this far by being stupid. He's been playing chess these past 15 months and his opponents - including the media - have underestimated him at every single point.

That's my take. Your mileage may vary.

I read an article yesterday written by a Clinton sycophant who admitted HC didn't do as well as she should have. I was startled given these slime buckets never admit HC has any flaws. If anyone thinks The Donald made a mistake they are dreaming.

Admittedly I'm not in his circle but I am aware of public relations strategies and propaganda techniques. For example, Trump is still on every major news site. This means FREE publicity. It does not matter what these sites say as most people already know their particular bias.

Granted HC is almost always mentioned in the articles but it is Trump's picture that is above the title. He really does not have a need to pounce at this time.

I had hoped he invited Jennifer Flowers to the debate. My thinking says this would have flustered HC so bad her true colors would have blocked out studio lighting. Just my thought.

If you will notice, more articles are appearing about Comey's role in not recommending prosecuting that crumb ball. And, some of them are authored by HC supporters.

I could tell you about my experience with secret information while on active duty and compare it to HC's experience but who cares about a military guy. He is expected to abide by the rules or go to jail. Not so w/a mental health patient running the State Department.

Have a great day...