What does business "success" MEAN to women and men?

> Believe it or not, this little story has
> much to do with men and how we’ll never
> change. Change the packaging, call us
> something else, but we’ll always be huMAN.

This may have been done by a comedian before however I'd never heard it, but if hadn't been it's extremely ripe for the pickin :-)

All us men have heard over the years about childbirth, it's pain/reward, and that WE could never bear the pain... and I think this is exactly why.

In all actuality, ~every women in the world is actually an IRON man!~

Dien, you might need to back me up here...

If my memory serves correct the "abbreviaion" (sorry, don't remember the actual name for the 2 letter symbols on the chart) for iron is FE (again, I know, big F little E, but play along for a sec), and that means that a *FE*MALE is actually an IRON MALE!!!

Correct?

This whole man/women talk really strikes at the core of the whole INITIAL concept for HerComputer.com, which was "Women teaching Women -- about computers, technology and the Internet!"

With all my heart and sole I still VERY FIRMLY BELIEVE that the concept/website can work on a grand scale, but thats not germane to this discussion.....

As to Freud: if you click on the below link you'll see an actual "living and breathing" picture of Freud today; well really about 18 months ago ;-)

He is still alive and well and keeps us company every single day, still today.

Paul

PS - After you click to see Freud if you click on the link for "HerComputer Made EZ-ine" and look at the third PERSONAL ENDORSEMENT from the top, you'll see a *frequent contributor* HERE's "vote of confidence" in what we were :-( trying to do.


Freud -- in all his glory :-)

Michael,

A while back when we had posted in the same thread on ABlakes board, when I said that I HAD given up on the HerComputer concept you had said something to the effect of "just because you still sign your messages 'Paul from HerComputer' illustrates that you HAVEN'T given up."

Well, I had then and i still have now!

Reading back on my post it could be misconstrued that I'm still trying to resurrect HerComputer, or still in support of it; and in a very small way there is an ounce of validity there, but overall it's completely not true.

What I mean: as any true blue entreprenuer can attest to, there's a "piece" of you in almost every one of your projects. And in this case that certainly *is* true. I'd be lying through my teeth if I told you that my wife and I are not devestated, heartbroken and extrmely sad that we weren't able to ever actually actualize the concept BUT WE'RE DONE. That doesn't mean for a moment that I'm not in support of it and still think highhly of it, but we're given up!

Michael this is only meant as a "pre-emptive strike" to tell you that we have given up, and the only reason I sound the slightest bit "positive" in my last post is bc there's still a "piece" of me in HerComputer. And I laughed when I just typed that, NO sexual innuendo was meant by that last statement :-)

PaulAgain

> This may have been done by a comedian before
> however I'd never heard it, but if hadn't
> been it's extremely ripe for the pickin :-)

> All us men have heard over the years about
> childbirth, it's pain/reward, and that WE
> could never bear the pain... and I think
> this is exactly why.

> In all actuality, ~every women in the world
> is actually an IRON man!~

> Dien, you might need to back me up here...

> If my memory serves correct the
> "abbreviaion" (sorry, don't
> remember the actual name for the 2 letter
> symbols on the chart) for iron is FE (again,
> I know, big F little E, but play along for a
> sec), and that means that a *FE*MALE is
> actually an IRON MALE!!!

> Correct?

> This whole man/women talk really strikes at
> the core of the whole INITIAL concept for
> HerComputer.com, which was "Women
> teaching Women -- about computers,
> technology and the Internet!"

> With all my heart and sole I still VERY
> FIRMLY BELIEVE that the concept/website can
> work on a grand scale, but thats not germane
> to this discussion.....

> As to Freud: if you click on the below link
> you'll see an actual "living and
> breathing" picture of Freud today; well
> really about 18 months ago ;-)

> He is still alive and well and keeps us
> company every single day, still today.

> Paul

> PS - After you click to see Freud if you
> click on the link for "HerComputer Made
> EZ-ine" and look at the third PERSONAL
> ENDORSEMENT from the top, you'll see a
> *frequent contributor* HERE's "vote of
> confidence" in what we were :-( trying
> to do.

Julie,

I can't believe that you work your TV manually! That really is incredible. Every time you want to change channel, mute the sound or make it go up and down, you actually get up out of your chair and go across the room, do the function you want and then go and site down again.

Why would you throw your remote against the wall? Did it let you down in some way?

I suppose you’d never be fat and lazy with all that remote exercise you get. Of course being a women, you probably never get bored with ads and boring shows on the goggle box.

Hold on……….maybe it’s me, maybe I’m the only one who likes to watch 5 shows at once, flip when the ads are on and take the remote to the toilet during the breaks.

Is it just me???….Nah, it’s a guy thing.

Respectfully and Remotely:0)

Richard.

> This may have been done by a comedian before
> however I'd never heard it, but if hadn't
> been it's extremely ripe for the pickin :-)

Thanks PAUL for the vote of confidence. I've always considered myself to be comically talented. I made the whole thing up all by myself, with no help from no women.

Dang blasted women, they're about as useful as remote controls;>)

Richard

Hi Richard!

We meet again....

> Why would you throw your remote against the
> wall? Did it let you down in some way?

****My first thought regarding this question reminded me of marraige. My remote did not "let me down" but rather the behavior it caused from those I loved.....THAT let me down! :-) So one day it sailed from my hand, across the room and into the wall and promptly broke into multiple pieces. Now, whenever ANY new piece of electronic gear enters the house with a remote, they get hidden....the remote, that is.

> I suppose you’d never be fat and lazy with
> all that remote exercise you get. Of course
> being a women, you probably never get bored
> with ads and boring shows on the goggle box.

***Not at all, my dear Richard, I never only watch TV. I am usually multi-tasking. Although when I was sick recently, I did watch a couple complete episodes of Rosie O'Donnell and Oprah. And this weekend I watched a little bit of College Football, just doing nothing else. Otherwise I am reading, writing a note, combing my daughter's hair, doing handiwork, something besides watching TV. Plus I watch so little of it anyway, the remote becomes a non issue.

Mostly it drives me nuts when my family members would have no CLUE what was on, but just lie there on the couch for hours on end, flipping channels to find yet another TV movie to waste a couple hours on. Who has that kind of time to invest?

My 19 year old daughter did this summer....GRRRRRRR...and about that marriage evaporting? Nuff said.

> Is it just me???….Nah, it’s a guy thing.

****Yeah, for the most part I think you are absolutely right!

JULIE

Hi Julie.... :)

> I never only
> watch TV. I am usually multi-tasking.
> Although when I was sick recently, I did
> watch a couple complete episodes of Rosie
> O'Donnell and Oprah. And this weekend I
> watched a little bit of College Football,
> just doing nothing else. Otherwise I am
> reading, writing a note, combing my
> daughter's hair, doing handiwork, something
> besides watching TV. Plus I watch so little
> of it anyway, the remote becomes a non
> issue.

Julie, actually, I kind of know what you mean (I think)....

I don't really need the remote control.... There's often not much good on anyway.... :)

I do have some friends who purposely don't have a TV. They just don't want a TV in their lives.... It is mostly a big waste of time....

There was a period of around 6 months when I purposefully lived without a TV. I wanted to see what it was like.... It was okay, although I did feel detached from the world since I didn't really know what was going on with the country and the world -- though if I wanted to I could have listened to the news on the radio, or bought a newspaper....

In many ways, though, not having a TV was very peaceful....

But.... yeah, there are very few shows I watch on TV regularly.

I don't have cable TV right now, but I do travel to visit my parents regularly (they live in another city) and they do have cable. When I visit, I enjoy watching the Discovery channel, the National Geographic channel, and the Travel shows....

That's the main good thing about TV, I think, the occasional groovy documentaries.... :)

I figure at least you're learning something.... :)

> Mostly it drives me nuts when my family
> members would have no CLUE what was on, but
> just lie there on the couch for hours on
> end, flipping channels to find yet another
> TV movie to waste a couple hours on. Who has
> that kind of time to invest?

I agree with you Julie.... I can say I've been guilty of this, but I don't feel very satisfied afterwards..... Mostly this is with cable....

I sit there, flipping through the channels, hoping something is good on.... Before you know it half an hour is gone and I still haven't found anything I'm interested in....

That's when I get up and surf the web! :)

Dien Rice
Recovering Channel Flipper (keep the remote away!) :)

Dien --

I have no TV and haven't had one in some time. Okay I really have a TV but it stays in the garage stuffed in a back corner and covered with stuff so it's hard to access. We pulled it out after the tornado hit our town back in March to watch some of the news for instance.

You are correct about it being a huge time sink. That is our primary reason for not having it. I have some observations on how TV affects children and their play but thats another story altogether.

-- Dan Butler

> Hi Julie.... :)

> Julie, actually, I kind of know what you
> mean (I think)....

> I don't really need the remote control....
> There's often not much good on anyway.... :)

> I do have some friends who purposely don't
> have a TV. They just don't want a TV in
> their lives.... It is mostly a big waste of
> time....

> There was a period of around 6 months when I
> purposefully lived without a TV. I wanted to
> see what it was like.... It was okay,
> although I did feel detached from the world
> since I didn't really know what was going on
> with the country and the world -- though if
> I wanted to I could have listened to the
> news on the radio, or bought a newspaper....

> In many ways, though, not having a TV was
> very peaceful....

> But.... yeah, there are very few shows I
> watch on TV regularly.

> I don't have cable TV right now, but I do
> travel to visit my parents regularly (they
> live in another city) and they do have
> cable. When I visit, I enjoy watching the
> Discovery channel, the National Geographic
> channel, and the Travel shows....

> That's the main good thing about TV, I
> think, the occasional groovy
> documentaries.... :)

> I figure at least you're learning
> something.... :)

> I agree with you Julie.... I can say I've
> been guilty of this, but I don't feel very
> satisfied afterwards..... Mostly this is
> with cable....

> I sit there, flipping through the channels,
> hoping something is good on.... Before you
> know it half an hour is gone and I still
> haven't found anything I'm interested in....

> That's when I get up and surf the web! :)

> Dien Rice
> Recovering Channel Flipper (keep the remote
> away!) :)




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Hi Dan,

Despite having a TV at the moment, I agree with you that there is a lot of wisdom in NOT having a TV.... TV can be like an addiction, I hate to admit....

There was this hip-hop/rap song many years ago.... "Television, the drug of the nation...."

I think you (and the others I know who purposefully don't have a TV) are in fact quite wise!

Thanks for your insights.... :)

Dien

Dien --

The way we got rid of the TV initially was -- it broke! The TV we had quit working so I threw it away. We were too busy to buy another one right away. After a few weeks we noticed we kind of liked not having one. It looked funny our TV stand with just an antennea and a VCR but no TV. Then someone gave us a large TV and we fell back in the habit. Later we decided to put it in the garage (right after the Branch Davidian seige ended - about an hour from where I lived at the time) and it's been there ever since.

-- Dan Butler

> Hi Dan,

> Despite having a TV at the moment, I agree
> with you that there is a lot of wisdom in
> NOT having a TV.... TV can be like an
> addiction, I hate to admit....

> There was this hip-hop/rap song many years
> ago.... "Television, the drug of the
> nation...."

> I think you (and the others I know who
> purposefully don't have a TV) are in fact
> quite wise!

> Thanks for your insights.... :)

> Dien




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