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Old March 29, 2003, 01:22 AM
TRandle
 
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Default Ezine Directory Submissions

I tried the search feature, but didn't come up with much.

Is there a benefit to submitting an ezine to various directories?

My guess is that it's probably not time well spent without knowing which directories are worth it?

I just recently got into the ezine arena (11/2) and after reading plenty of "how-to's", I'm unsure as to which efforts will produce quality results.

I realize the questions are broad, but any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.


Texas Real Estate Club
  #2  
Old March 29, 2003, 07:18 AM
Chip Tarver
 
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Default Your Ezine - 4 Ways To...

Consider in your current quest, TR....

Hi, TR -

Here's an idea or two for your consideration and approval ....

1. Takes a long time - but fr**ee to research

Keep using the search engines to find ezine directories. This takes a while, but won't cost you any money to do searches. There are many.

Use the SE results and compile your own list of ezine directories to which to submit your ezine, which again takes quite a while to do manually.

You can then submit to your complied list of ezine directories one at a time. This method is fairly tedious, but you are investing a lot of your time instead of your money using this method.

2. Use Jason's "Ezine Announcer" software

One of the people we'll discuss in our Coaching lessons is Jason Potash. His software is a great start for a reasonable cost, and will submit your ezine "automatically" once you set it up right.

This method is not fr**ee - but will save you countless hours of manual searching and manual submissions, so you must put a value on your time and weigh that against the cost of his software.

Once you buy the software, you can use it as often as you like (but do *not* spam the directories.) You own it.

3. Dr. Nunley

His service is probably the most expensive, but is also a professional, turnkey service where you pay for what you need help with, whether it's writing, or ads, or press releases, or submissions, etc. He has thousands of contacts with whom to work in your behalf. You pay each time you use his services.

Marlon told me about his site last night on the phone. I went and looked at it.

4. Other submission services -

This method can get very expensive. There are lots of submission services that charge you per submission, typically, and my advice is to get references from their customers prior to giving them any of your money. They charge you every time you use their services, too.

In summary:

The main issues here are your niche (aka Target Market) and your budget for advertising. Not knowing your niche, I gave you a couple of ideas so you could determine the proper chanel based on your budget, whether it is zero, or more.

If you take the shotgun approach and just shoot and pray, then you will *not* efficiently reach your target audience. You might completely waste your time and your money.

In marketing, you usually have to choose between investing your time, investing your money, or some reasonable ratio split between those two.

In addition, we'll cover ezines down the road a bit in our NoCost Coaching program you're in. That should also help you. But for now - do someting.

Get started. That's so important.

Hope this helps you,

Chip Tarver
<
Your NoCost Coach
Never a Fee - Ever

[email protected]

> I tried the search feature, but didn't come
> up with much.

> Is there a benefit to submitting an ezine to
> various directories?

> My guess is that it's probably not time well
> spent without knowing which directories are
> worth it?

> I just recently got into the ezine arena
> (11/2) and after reading plenty of
> "how-to's", I'm unsure as to which
> efforts will produce quality results.

> I realize the questions are broad, but any
> suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
  #3  
Old March 29, 2003, 08:38 AM
Boyd Stone
 
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Default Why do you spell 'free' as fr**ee? [DNO]

dno
> Consider in your current quest, TR....

> Hi, TR -

> Here's an idea or two for your consideration
> and approval ....

> 1. Takes a long time - but fr**ee to
> research

> Keep using the search engines to find ezine
> directories. This takes a while, but won't
> cost you any money to do searches. There are
> many.

> Use the SE results and compile your own list
> of ezine directories to which to submit your
> ezine, which again takes quite a while to do
> manually.

> You can then submit to your complied list of
> ezine directories one at a time. This method
> is fairly tedious, but you are investing a
> lot of your time instead of your money using
> this method.

> 2. Use Jason's "Ezine Announcer"
> software

> One of the people we'll discuss in our
> Coaching lessons is Jason Potash. His
> software is a great start for a reasonable
> cost, and will submit your ezine
> "automatically" once you set it up
> right.

> This method is not fr**ee - but will save
> you countless hours of manual searching and
> manual submissions, so you must put a value
> on your time and weigh that against the cost
> of his software.

> Once you buy the software, you can use it as
> often as you like (but do *not* spam the
> directories.) You own it.

> 3. Dr. Nunley

> His service is probably the most expensive,
> but is also a professional, turnkey service
> where you pay for what you need help with,
> whether it's writing, or ads, or press
> releases, or submissions, etc. He has
> thousands of contacts with whom to work in
> your behalf. You pay each time you use his
> services.

> Marlon told me about his site last night on
> the phone. I went and looked at it.

> 4. Other submission services -

> This method can get very expensive. There
> are lots of submission services that charge
> you per submission, typically, and my advice
> is to get references from their customers
> prior to giving them any of your money. They
> charge you every time you use their
> services, too.

> In summary:

> The main issues here are your niche (aka
> Target Market) and your budget for
> advertising. Not knowing your niche, I gave
> you a couple of ideas so you could determine
> the proper chanel based on your budget,
> whether it is zero, or more.

> If you take the shotgun approach and just
> shoot and pray, then you will *not*
> efficiently reach your target audience. You
> might completely waste your time and your
> money.

> In marketing, you usually have to choose
> between investing your time, investing your
> money, or some reasonable ratio split
> between those two.

> In addition, we'll cover ezines down the
> road a bit in our NoCost Coaching program
> you're in. That should also help you. But
> for now - do someting.

> Get started. That's so important.

> Hope this helps you,

> Chip Tarver
> Your NoCost Coach
> Never a Fee - Ever

> [email protected]
  #4  
Old March 29, 2003, 08:57 AM
Chip Tarver
 
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Default Because....

it is an easy way to make people more *aware* of the ugly fact that the spam police will hang legitimate marketers by their toes at the edge of town (even while letting "smart" spammers run wild.)

The spammers constantly try different ways to disguise the word "free" in their spams. Honest marketers need to be smarter than the spammers. Try words like "complimentary" or "at no cost" or "at no charge" instead of the word "Free."

By the way, in some states, if there is any remuneration (payment) for *anything* at *any point whatsoever* in your deal - you cannot by law call it free.

Just words of humble advice, my friend.

We'll cover a lot of "common sense" marketing techniques in our NoCost Coaching Program. If you wish to join us, you are very welcome here.

Chip Tarver
<
Your NoCost Coach
Never a Fee - Ever

[email protected]
  #5  
Old March 29, 2003, 09:48 AM
TRandle
 
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Default Thanks..

Chip,
Thanks for the response.

Nunley and Potash were some of the resources on my radar from prior investigation. For a while I was subscribed to tons of ezines related to internet and information marketing. The downside is it's difficult to know which of the numerous recommendations are worthy.

Yes, the manual submission is tedious. I had already begun that process for four or five directories when I decided to ask here. I have enough other projects going that I was concerned about being bombarded with emails requesting swaps, ads, etc. for other ezines that don't relate to my field. I've seen similar occurrences with other "free" submission-type services.

My niche is real estate investing and more towards the creative side of that field. I'm currently working on my first product release. Actually, I guess it's my second since I recently launched a subscription by county service for real estate investors.

In addition to building my own list for obvious reasons, I'd like to build a substantial list in order to be able to participate in swaps, etc. with other folks who have large lists.

Again, thanks for the recommendations...


Texas Real Estate Club
  #6  
Old March 29, 2003, 09:51 AM
Boyd Stone
 
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Default You almost gave me a stroke just then

Hi,

You wrote:
> The spammers constantly try different ways
> to disguise the word "free" in
> their spams. Honest marketers need to be
> smarter than the spammers. Try words like
> "complimentary" or "at no
> cost" or "at no charge"
> instead of the word "Free."

This is a discussion group, not an ezine.

You wrote:
> If you wish to join
> us, you are very welcome here.

"If I wish to join you I'm very welcome here"????!!!! For your information, I've been posting messages to the marketing discussion groups since 1995, and I was welcome here years before you showed up.

Very sincerely,

- Boyd
  #7  
Old March 29, 2003, 10:17 AM
Chip Tarver
 
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Default You Misunderstood Me... I Apologize...

Hi, Boyd -

I was only responding to your question *to me* as to why I use the word free as fr**ee.

My *invitation* to you was for you to join a great big group of us in our (fr**ee) NoCost Coaching program - not to join discussion boards in general.

Our Coaching Program is open by invitation only. If my offer to you offended you, you don't have to join our group. I merely offered.

I'm sorry you misunderstood me. If I offended you by not making myself more clear, I apologize, Boyd.

Chip
<

> Hi,

> You wrote:

> This is a discussion group, not an ezine.

> You wrote:

> "If I wish to join you I'm very welcome
> here"????!!!! For your information,
> I've been posting messages to the marketing
> discussion groups since 1995, and I was
> welcome here years before you showed up.

> Very sincerely,

> - Boyd
  #8  
Old March 29, 2003, 10:24 AM
Chip Tarver
 
Posts: n/a
Default TR - Do You Know...

Richard and Michelle Oddyssey?

They are super-successful at what you are doing, and are wonderful people as well. Perhaps they might be able to assist you, or save you some time and energy, or maybe even be interested in doing something with you. I don't know.

I cannot speak for them - but we spent some time together at the Workshop in Texas - and they are smart, nice, well-respected, and very successful.

Chip
<

> Chip,
> Thanks for the response.

> Nunley and Potash were some of the resources
> on my radar from prior investigation. For a
> while I was subscribed to tons of ezines
> related to internet and information
> marketing. The downside is it's difficult to
> know which of the numerous recommendations
> are worthy.

> Yes, the manual submission is tedious. I had
> already begun that process for four or five
> directories when I decided to ask here. I
> have enough other projects going that I was
> concerned about being bombarded with emails
> requesting swaps, ads, etc. for other ezines
> that don't relate to my field. I've seen
> similar occurrences with other
> "free" submission-type services.

> My niche is real estate investing and more
> towards the creative side of that field. I'm
> currently working on my first product
> release. Actually, I guess it's my second
> since I recently launched a subscription by
> county service for real estate investors.

> In addition to building my own list for
> obvious reasons, I'd like to build a
> substantial list in order to be able to
> participate in swaps, etc. with other folks
> who have large lists.

> Again, thanks for the recommendations...
  #9  
Old March 29, 2003, 10:34 AM
TRandle
 
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Default Re: TR - Do You Know...

Chip,
I know Michelle (not well), but haven't met Richard. I'll give it some consideration. Thanks.
  #10  
Old March 29, 2003, 11:45 AM
Dien Rice
 
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Default No blatant advertising please....

Hi Chip,

No blatant advertising please (as it says at the top of the forum). I think you're getting close to the line.... Blatant advertising detracts from the benefit of visiting here, and we do delete blatant advertisements. Just to let you know, in case you weren't aware....

(Adding a link to the end of your post is okay.)

Dien Rice
 


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