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![]() Okay... try this...
"They are able to survive on a minimum wage job because they...Sacrifice" They may not want to... after all who does if they don't have to... but they must... so they do. And the self-discipline that was forced on them becomes a habit that turns into a very big advantage. Steve Ski |
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![]() > WHY are they able to survive on the minimum
> wage job? > "They are able to survive on a minimum > wage job because they... (insert thing > here)" ... have no debt and stay out of debt? Assuming they aren't caught up in one of those scams where they end up working in sweatshops to pay of someone who smuggled them into the country... When they enter their new home, they (presumably) have no debts. And, assuming they aren't coming from another capitalist society, it probably hasn't been ingrained in them that they "have" to go into debt (i.e., for cars, homes, higher education, business start-up, etc.). Am I close? Do I have a clue? 8^} |
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![]() The advantage a migrant has is the advantages natural borns have. 'Nothing' is the advantage. It's like starting a new life. $20 is a big deal when you're starting from zero. Things only get better. There's only one way - UP!
After all these discussions, anyone here wants to be a migrant? :-) Alexander Marketing Architect HypnoticProfit.com |
#55
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![]() In the words of the Big Bopper,
"I KNOWWWWWWW What I Want!" |
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![]() > Steve,
> I agree with you. Its like a child who > believes in dreams and make believe. They > believe without a doubt that dreams do come > true because they have not had their minds > closed by adult thinking. > Migrants give up everything they have: > friends, relatives, familiar surroundings > and knowledge of how their part of the world > works.... for.. > A better life. "The land of > opportunity". > Why? > Because they don't know they can't. > Rick Hunter Hi Rick, It seems that Michael is looking for something else. Something they and the rich share that most never get until late in life if at all. What is it about Karol's post that implies it? The fact that his parents risk everything they had for a chance to create a better life? Or that they had the self-discipline to stay focused and do what they knew would bring them closer to their goals? Are Migrants and the rich both risk takers while their offspring often are not willing to assume risk? Do the rich and Migrants practice self discipline while often times their children don't? Sure makes you think doesn't it? Steve Ski Wealth, Science, and the "Law of Attraction" |
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![]() > There seems to be an imbalance to success
> when migrants are added to the numbers. > From the outside, migrants appear to have a > higher proportion of successful people from > their numbers than people born within the > country. > And this out-of-whack ratio applies to all > western countries - migrants succeed in > Australia more than Australians, migrants > succeed in the US more than people born in > the US, migrants succeed in the UK more than > people born there. > We can, in an initial and dismissive way, > attribute this to some kind of work ethic - > they work harder. > And while that may be the case, that would > be an observed result of something else. > In other words... they tend to do jobs other > people don't want to do. They tend to do > menial tasks. "Idiot work." Often, > it is thought, they do these jobs because > they don't have the formal qualifications to > do anything better (but what does > "better" mean?). > And while that may be true, there are many > natural born citizens who also work those > jobs and who do not succeed. > Without formal qualifications many start > their own little businesses. But again, if > starting a business was all that mattered > than plenty of natural born citizens would > also go on to the success migrants do. But > it doesn't happen. > As a group, more successes come from > migrants than from other groups. > Why is it so? > There is one thing all migrants have in > common that gives them an advantage over > natural born citizens. It is something all > natural born citizens can also have, if they > want to. > Before I reveal it I want to hear what > others think it is... > So why do migrants tend to succeed more so > than natural born citizens? > Michael Ross OK Michael maybe this is a little off. Could it be because they are new to the country they don't know what to expect and haven't yet learned the 3 most dangerous words (I know that) therefore they simply have a opened mind while others are close minded thus limited in their choices? The answer must be so obvious that I must be missing the boat because I just don't know any better or just can't see it because I'm looking at things through colored lens? Steve Ski Wealth, Science, and the "Law of Attraction" |
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![]() > One advantage an outsider has is the ability
> to more clearly see the obvious > opportunities and problems unhampered by the > judgement and cultural baggage of the > insider. Good point. Already covered, though. It is true they would seem to be able to see the opportunities more clearly. Yet for those who can't we have publications which reveal them. So that newcomers edge is not so big. Michael Ross |
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![]() > Hi Rick, It seems that Michael is looking
> for something else. Something they and the > rich share that most never get until late in > life if at all. What is it about Karol's > post that implies it? > The fact that his parents risk everything > they had for a chance to create a better > life? > Or that they had the self-discipline to stay > focused and do what they knew would bring > them closer to their goals? > Are Migrants and the rich both risk takers > while their offspring often are not willing > to assume risk? > Do the rich and Migrants practice self > discipline while often times their children > don't? Getting warmer. What would they practice self-discipline in though? Not eating chocolate? :o) Here's a hint... two people in this thread have now got it. :o) Michael Ross |
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![]() > The advantage a migrant has is the
> advantages natural borns have. 'Nothing' is > the advantage. It's like starting a new > life. $20 is a big deal when you're starting > from zero. Things only get better. There's > only one way - UP! > After all these discussions, anyone here > wants to be a migrant? :-) Alexander: I'd like to see you take this line of thought further. Migrants are starting from zero - as you say. So why it that an advantage over most people in society? As for wanting to be a migrant? Not sure people would want to be a migrant per se. As that would mean leaving their country of birth. And a lot of people are quite happy living in he country they were born in. However, I feel a lot would actually like to start anew from where the migrant starts. Why would that be? Michael Ross |
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