"Free Energy Devices"

Well, I've seen enough, folks, to realize I can discuss some topics here besides internet business and marketing! (see the alternative medicine thread below!). So, here goes...

I'm interested in "free energy" devices. My definition of these is (are) devices which allow an individual to tap into an existing (but untapped) source of energy which can be converted into electrical energy for use in your own home. Examples of untapped energy sources might be the magnetic field of the earth, or the gravitational field. It is "free" in the sense that (with one of these devices) you'd no longer have to rely on power companies to supply you with electrical energy.

Over the years, I've read about the stationary armature generator, the Moray device, and a number of others. T. B. Pawlicki wrote a couple of books which described some of these things. I'd like to know if people are working on these things (maybe some already have them in their homes and are keeping it mum). I even got a book by mail order which has detailed plans (and copies of existing patents) for building such devices.

Am I alone in my interest, or are others here also fascinated with this?


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Hi LariAnn!

> I'm interested in "free energy"
> devices. My definition of these is (are)
> devices which allow an individual to tap
> into an existing (but untapped) source of
> energy which can be converted into
> electrical energy for use in your own home.
> Examples of untapped energy sources might be
> the magnetic field of the earth, or the
> gravitational field. It is "free"
> in the sense that (with one of these
> devices) you'd no longer have to rely on
> power companies to supply you with
> electrical energy.

Does solar energy or a wind power machine count as a "free energy device"?

If it does, then there's a lot of things you can do.....

There's a lot of interest in these kinds of things among people who like to be fully self-sufficient....

One interesting working system is one which creates energy from the rise and fall of tides.... Perfect for your ocean-side villa. :)

Tides occur due to the attraction of the moon as it orbits the earth. So, to think about it more exotically, a device which creates energy from tides is really relying on "gravity power" - energy from the gravitational attraction of the moon!

Here's a company which makes tide-power technology.... This is for large-scale systems, but you could probably adapt the technology to a smaller scale too....

Here's an interesting brief article on tapping wave, tidal, and ocean thermal energy....

> Over the years, I've read about the
> stationary armature generator, the Moray
> device, and a number of others. T. B.
> Pawlicki wrote a couple of books which
> described some of these things. I'd like to
> know if people are working on these things
> (maybe some already have them in their homes
> and are keeping it mum). I even got a book
> by mail order which has detailed plans (and
> copies of existing patents) for building
> such devices.

> Am I alone in my interest, or are others
> here also fascinated with this?

I haven't heard of those devices specifically, but in a business sense there could be lots you could do with these....

On the one hand, you could sell or distribute these kinds of technologies, if they are already being manufactured.... You would have to find how to contact the kind of people buy these technologies (where is the demand), and then sell it to them....

Probably an easier way is with information products, like the books you mentioned already.

There's a lot of untapped information in patent databases (though just because it's patented doesn't guarantee it will work!).

Based on magazines I've seen, the demand for information products in this area seems to be there! :)

- Dien

For those who want to look into a little of what I'm bringing up as a subject here, check this URL:
Tom Bearden's Virtual Times

I'm just now studying it, but Tom has been involved with these matters for years. Apparently some others have as well. No doubt, there is a market for this...

As far as application of this technology is concerned, I'm most interested in the stationary armature generator (SAG) as a potential for freeing us from dependence on power companies.

The basic idea of the SAG is to keep the magnets and coils fixed, while causing the magnetic field to fluctuate. This can be achieved either mechanically (through the use of a rotating shield) or electronically (using computer controlled switches for the electromagnets). The electronic version would generate electricity with no moving parts...

Interesting topic. And, unfortunately, something the public may never experience.

Water contains a tremendous amount of energy. And to my knowledge, it's available in two forms.

One form is to split the water to make the hydrogen and oxygen seperate. Simply add heat and away you go.

Another way is to fuse the water - nuclear fusion. I believe a few bods in England are very close to having a power generator/station, which uses this technique, up and running. But even according to them, it'd be about thirty years before the public could benefit from the power produced.

The problem with fusion being the vast amount of heat needed to get the self-sustaining reaction to take place.

The best chance we have from using the energy in water is by splitting it and using the energy in the hydrogen.

The problem with this has been, that up until now, it required enormouos amounts of energy to get the hydrogen out of water. Way more energy then you'd get from the hydrogen.

However, there's a guy in the US who can fill-up his table-top device with tap water, plug it into an existing power point and turn it on. Right before your eyes you see the water "smoke" as the hydrogen comes off of it.

He's also working on a car engine which uses his hydrogen-extraction method. And NASA has contracted him to help them with something they are working on.

The interesting thing about his device is, the energy obtained from the hydrogen appears to be far greater than the energy used to extract the hydrogen. He seem to be getting more energy out than he's putting in.

Anyway. Assume he gets his engine perfected and that he then makes small scale generators so people can create their own electricity at home.

We will never see it, ever.

Think about it. One cup of water and you never need to fill up your car again. Can you imagine the infra-structure that would suddenly become useless?

Not only would we not need gas stations any more, we wouldn't need fuel tankers, fuel refineries, oil rigs, ships that cart oil, and so on and so forth.

That's a lot of people out of work and a lot of money gone. Especially for the government. No fuel means no fuel-tax and that's a lot of money the government would not get.

How about if we generate our own electricity using this device?

No more utility companies. No more cables needed. No more power stations needed. No more coal trucks and coal truck building companies. No more coal mines and companies that make coal mining equipment. And so on and so forth.

Again, an extremely large number of people out of work and money lost.

There's too much money at stake to grant us access to these types of energy.

Michael Ross.

> Again, an extremely large number of people
> out of work and money lost.

> There's too much money at stake to grant us
> access to these types of energy.

Right you are, Michael. But this medium we are using right now can make it possible for the time for this technology to arrive. This fellow you mention, who has the table-top hydrogen generator; where is information about this available?

Think about how fast information can be distributed across the world through the internet. None of the "powers that be" could snuff out all of the "cottage laboratories" which would spring up all around the world if the "schematics" got out over the net.

The best free energy power source would be one which anyone could have in their own home for about the cost of a TV set. I believe that the stationary armature generator is one possibility.

Once you have an operational unit, you discover certain other phenomena which are associated with a fluctuating or rotating magnetic field. The frequency of rotation of the field can be tuned; At certain frequencies, you get harmonic resonance with other fields, such as the earth's magnetic field. At that point, you notice harmonic amplification, which would become the basic technology for the development of other devices involving magnetic levitation.

The potential I see here is for the design of a solid-state "tuner" which "receives" energy from a large source (such as the earth's magnetic field) and converts it to electricity. This would be analogous to radio waves being received and converted into sound waves.

Just think; the power grids would have to buy your excess electricity, just as they do from those generating it via solar cells...

> Right you are, Michael. But this medium we
> are using right now can make it possible for
> the time for this technology to arrive. This
> fellow you mention, who has the table-top
> hydrogen generator; where is information
> about this available?

His name is Stanley Meyer.

Anyway. Here's a bit of other info

http://colossus2.cvl.bcm.tmc.edu/~wje/free_energy/meyer.html

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/meyerx.htm

http://members.iinet.net.au/~steveb/meyer/meyer1.html

These are just a small number of links from Google.

> Think about how fast information can be
> distributed across the world through the
> internet. None of the "powers that
> be" could snuff out all of the
> "cottage laboratories" which would
> spring up all around the world if the
> "schematics" got out over the net.

> The best free energy power source would be
> one which anyone could have in their own
> home for about the cost of a TV set. I
> believe that the stationary armature
> generator is one possibility.

I'd like to have a very small neclear reactor in my car. Fill once in 20 years. I like that idea. HA!

Mind you... I wouldn't want to be in an accident with an engine like that.

> Once you have an operational unit, you
> discover certain other phenomena which are
> associated with a fluctuating or rotating
> magnetic field. The frequency of rotation of
> the field can be tuned; At certain
> frequencies, you get harmonic resonance with
> other fields, such as the earth's magnetic
> field. At that point, you notice harmonic
> amplification, which would become the basic
> technology for the development of other
> devices involving magnetic levitation.

> The potential I see here is for the design
> of a solid-state "tuner" which
> "receives" energy from a large
> source (such as the earth's magnetic field)
> and converts it to electricity. This would
> be analogous to radio waves being received
> and converted into sound waves.

I seem to recall Tesla having the idea of "transmitting" electricity into our homes and our devices using special recievers to function.

This would be better.

> Just think; the power grids would have to
> buy your excess electricity, just as they do
> from those generating it via solar cells...

HAHAHA... unless, of course, you live in a place that doesn't allow it... or the government passes certain laws resticting this kind of thing as it becomes more wide-spread. Of course, they'd do it for our own safety and to stop the backyard device makers. They may even say it's a health hazzard for our children. :o)

Michael Ross.

Michael is right about the infrastructure - too much of the world economy is based around the current energy model.

The availability of "free" energy to the masses would severely upset the powers that be - and they will never allow that.

Which is why much of the later work of Nikola Tesla was seized by your government and will not be released. You can find a lot of Tesla's early patents etc but the really good stuff about 'broadcasting' free energy to the entire planet has disappeared.

Bruce Cathie has done some excellent work in the area of resonance and harmonics and some of his books can be found at Amazon.

Also see

http://www.thecyberwiz.com/directories/alternative/links/brucecathie.html

All of Bruce Cathie's books are worth reading, especially 'Bridge to Infinity'.




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> However, there's a guy in the US who can
> fill-up his table-top device with tap water,
> plug it into an existing power point and
> turn it on. Right before your eyes you see
> the water "smoke" as the hydrogen
> comes off of it.

Michael, here is a link I found which has the schematic for a device to generate hydrogen gas from water as you describe here. The URL is:
Beurger's Device

Check it out and let me know what you think.