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Old March 3, 2001, 12:47 PM
Boyd Stone
 
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Default Sandy's joke on the other forum...

Hi,

Sandy's joke on the other forum ( http://www.sowpub.com/cgi-bin/forum/smiles.pl?read=79 ) made me think of this.

What is making money like? I need to know because I'm looking for a way to think about how much I want to make and how much work I'm willing to do to get it.

Maybe making a living is like fishing.

A fisherman could fish 22 hours a day, ceaselessly landing fish and salting them away. But that's not living, that's...well...that's working.

Or, a fisherman could fish for 22 hours a day until he has enough fish salted away to provide a "cushion," and then cut back on his work and only catch three fish a day--one for each meal.

Or, the fisherman could figure out how many fish he needs in a month's time, and fish for 22 hours a day for a week and a half or until he makes his monthly nut, and then loaf for the rest of the month.

Or, the fisherman could fish for 12 hours a day for 5 years, and then never fish again in his life.

If making a living is like fishing, and let's pretend someone smarter than that smart guy in the wheelchair was the fisherman, how would this Genius Fisherperson strategize and structure his work VS loaf schedule?

Thanks, hopefully, for any replies and input to this rather core question about making a living.

Best,

-Boyd


Sandy's joke
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Old March 3, 2001, 01:36 PM
sandy
 
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Default Giving it all away...

Please check out the website below in
this post...now this fisherman has made
enough money to live on and is now giving
it away...take some time and read about
the fisherman behind this website and what
his mission is...fascinating isn't it?

http://www.watercure2.com/

"the man is the richest whose pleasures are the
cheapest." Henry david thoreau, Journal, Mar.3,
1856
  #3  
Old March 3, 2001, 03:00 PM
Boyd Stone
 
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Default Re: Giving it all away...

Hi,

That is indeed fascinating. That would be 11 glasses a day for me...

You quoted:
> "the man
> is the richest whose pleasures are the
> cheapest." Henry david thoreau,
> Journal, Mar.3,
> 1856

Amen, amen amen!

Have you heard the GREAT Delbert McClinton song that goes, in part:

[quote]

Spent a lot of time in the past...
Kissin' other peoples' ass...
Now I'm where I want to be
Sittin' here watchin' the rain.

[unquote]

Best,

-Boyd
  #4  
Old March 3, 2001, 11:35 PM
sandy
 
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Default Re: Giving it all away...

sounds like a great song....I'd like to find
the rest of the lyrics...in the process of
searching: do you know the name of the song?

I can relate to the message..

"Caged birds accept each other but flight
is what they long for"-Tennessee Williams,
Camino Real, 1953
  #5  
Old March 4, 2001, 03:53 AM
Ken Langille
 
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Default Watching the rain

That's the name of the song. Delbert's great, and you can find some neat stuff about him at google, including his own website.

Here's a nice photo and update:
http://www.guitar.com/musicnews/shownews.asp?newsID=711

Best,

Ken
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Old March 4, 2001, 12:47 PM
Boyd Stone
 
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Default Question for Sandy

Hi,

Barring accidents, Cars will tend to last to their maximum life expectancy if properly maintained and provided with the right fuel and the right fluid levels.

Do you think that barring accidents people will live to their maximum life expectancy if properly maintained and given the right fuel and sufficient water?

Thanks in advance,

-Boyd
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Old March 4, 2001, 02:49 PM
Dien Rice
 
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Default Make boring tasks more challenging and interesting....

Hi Boyd,

If you're like me, there are probably many different things you enjoy doing.... You only need to be able to make money from at least one of those things....

If it can be of service to people, then you can probably make money from it.

Right now, I've started to get into the habit of thinking to myself for any task, "how can I get the RESULT of this task with less work." I find just thinking about this makes the task more enjoyable for me....

Thinking about this means that I DO tend to come up with ways to get the same result with less effort and work. That makes me more efficient, and I can do more.... Since I started getting into this habit, I've found that I'm getting much more stuff done than I was before.

I'm kind of inspired by Michael Dell.... He gives the preface to his book (Direct From Dell) the title:

"I've always been fascinated with eliminating unnecessary steps."

I think if you find more efficient ways to do things it could also be a great start for a product idea. If it helps make your life easier, it will probably do the same for someone else too. :)

Thinking about this can also make an otherwise boring task intellectually more challenging and interesting.... (At least that's how it's worked for me!) And of course you'll end up being more efficient too.... :)

- Dien
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Old March 4, 2001, 04:55 PM
sandy
 
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Default My take

> Hi,

> Do you think that barring accidents people
> will live to their maximum life expectancy
> if properly maintained and given the right
> fuel and sufficient water?

The key here is Barring Accidents, Genetic
predispositions and things which are beyond
our immediate control....
I think people can maximum their physical
life expectancy...but here is the key:

what part does attitude and the unforseen dimensions of our life play in this equation?

And even more: do we BELIEVE in prolonging
our life or just living it up since we are
"going to die anyway"?

Life is not as simplistic as "if you eat well"
you'll live long...

I believe other dimensions in our life have
bearing on this issue...

Let me give you an example: some people may
be ill and not know it; but once the doctor
gives them a diagnosis and poor prognosis it
hastens their death...

Others are given a placebo and live a long
and healthy life...

> -Boyd
  #9  
Old March 5, 2001, 01:55 AM
Dien Rice
 
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Default The placebo effect is

real.

Sandy said....

> Let me give you an example: some people may
> be ill and not know it; but once the doctor
> gives them a diagnosis and poor prognosis it
> hastens their death...

> Others are given a placebo and live a long
> and healthy life...

It's interesting you mention this....

Dr. Marc Cohen (who I mentioned, though not by name, in a different recent message on people's "environment") was also talking to a friend and me about placebos.... He's both an MD and is also the director of the Centre for Complementary Medicine at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.

He said that generally, when they do "double-blind" studies (neither the doctors nor the test groups know which one is taking the placebo), 30% of the people in the placebo group improve their health.

This can extend to various things.... If people are given a placebo and told it will improve their condition, 30% of the placebo group will improve their condition in the way expected. He even spoke about some clinical trials he's currently involved with regarding a treatment for baldness.... He said 30% of the placebo group grew some hair!

This is a real physical effect.... The placebo effect can apparently be quite powerful. 30% of the people given a placebo will improve their condition....

- Dien
  #10  
Old March 5, 2001, 02:32 PM
Matt
 
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Default Agree with Michael except for...

...two points that he made.
One is that reward means more money. I would climb down that mine shaft deep into the earth for NO MONEY if I knew that I could save the child at the bottom. No amount of money in the world could replace that reward.
Which leads to the other statement you made about us being in a "Democratic-Socialistic" society.
I think your definition of reward helps to support my beleif that we live in a "Plutocratic-Socialistic" society.
Other than that, yes I agree that the rewards make the jobs seem more or less bearable.

Matt
 


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