Nightingale, Hill, et al., are they for real?

Can someone name a person who got wealthy by applying the principle of self-improvement to something other than publishing in the area of self-improvement? What I mean is: Is there any exponent of a self-improvement philosophy who became wealthy through something other than a publication success?

It's not Napoleon Hill, who got his financial breakthrough with "Think and Grow Rich"; it's Earl Nightingale, who did it with "The Strangest Secret" and his radio shows (with lots of commercial advertising income) and so on. Of course, once they had a bestseller, they continued making money building on their publicity and reputation.

I like what I hear from people like Nightingale or Hill, but is it for real?

Can you name somebody who made a fortune by applying the "commonly touted self-improvement principles", but who made a fortune in some area other than publication/publicity -- say by building a multi-million dollar manufacturing company.

I understand the catch of the situation, that those busy applying the principles of self-improvement may not have the time or inclination to waste time writing and publishing about them, and I'm looking forward to your insights.

Wolfgang

Kiyosaki?

I think that Robert Kiyosaki probably fits what you're asking for.... He made a lot of money by starting a company which makes those velcro "surf wallets". Then he lost it all again.... But it does seem he DID make it the first time.

I think the next time he made a lot of money was through real estate investments....

He says he's making more from his books than he has from anything else, but it doesn't discount that he has apparently already made a lot (millions, I think) from his previous activities, before he started to write about them....

I'll see if I can think of any more authors who also fit this description.... :)

- Dien Rice

Wolfgang....(I don't know if that's your real name or not BUT...the first "Wolfgang" I ever met was at the Mount Alyeska Ski Resort outside of Anchorage Alaska one snowy, wintery New Years Eve.

We came in for Apres Ski and started doing what was known at that time as..."zipping down minters". Which was a slang term for drinking shots of Creme de Menthe. Each person in our group would take turns buying a round of "mint zippers".

Thus...after about 8 or 10 rounds (we were also eating goodies in between toasts)...most of us were "feeling no pain". However, we were all in our mid 20's at the time and could "handle" our drinking.

Yah...sure!

Anyway...as the evening progressed in this wonderful ski lodge in Alaska on New Years Eve...I happen to notice a guy with his guitar at the microphone, singing an old German folk song.

We all stop what we're doing and listen to this guy singing. His voice was beautiful...singing these German folk songs in his native tongue.

The whole crowd was mesmerized by this guy and he could also sing American songs. THIS guy knew almost every song there was...and he kept a crowd of 250 mid-twenties yuppies entertained until about 4 in the morn.

What a wonderful FIRST experience with someone named "Wolfgang". (I can't remember what his last name was or whatever became of him...but for one evening, some 30 odd yrs ago...a guy named "Wolfgang made an indelible impression on me and my wife.

Anyway...back to the question at hand;

I was introduced to Earl Nightingale by a man named W. Clement Stone (founder of Success Magazine and United Insurance)

I hired Earl Nightingale as the "entertainment" at my company's Christmas Party in 1972 in Chicago. He was WONDERFUL! What a motivational speaker. I had my entire staff and friends (300 people) at a bash I popped for at the Conrad Hilton Hotel in Chgo.

I was making so much money with my security company (Securitronics Corp) that I bought 17 Mink Stoles (for you younger folks...MINK STOLES in the 70's was THE "IN" thingee)...and gave them to the WIVES of my top salespeople and installers.

WHAT A NIGHT "THAT" WAS! (Which is another story)

Anyway...back to the "subject at hand"; Earl Nightingale was a MASTER PSYCHOLOGIST...MASTER SPEAKER...MASTER MOTIVATOR. I don't remember how he got his MOXEY (moxey is short for "know-how") BUT...the guy could hold an audience of 300 people in the PALM OF HIS HAND.

And, yes Wolfgang...in his later years he did make a bundle "WRITING" about "marketing"...but when I met and got to know "MR" Nightingale...the guy was "for real". He could motivate a SLUG to move 10 times faster....a "thinker" to "think" 10 times faster...whatever it was...HE HAD IT!

Then, he teamed up with others and used his MOXEY of motivation and persuasion to sell millions of dollars of Tapes and Manuals.

BUT...when I met and got to know MR Nightingale.. HE was a MASTER at what he did.

ALSO...I have to say that a guy named GARY HALBERT had a marked influence on MY life.

Gary learned the HARD WAY...."HOW TO SELL AND PERSUADE PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT HE WAS SELLING"...thru the venue of "Encyclopedias"!

Where I...yours truly ALSO spent an entire summer break from studies at Northwestern Univiversity in Evanston, ILL...making BIG money by using my BRAIN instead of my BRAWN, working construction.

In my first summer at Northwestern, because I was a "jock" on an "athletic scholarship"...I TOILED at the "usual summer job for jocks"...which was CONSTRUCTION LABOR! YUK!

Sure...we made good money...and my coach, by the way...was ARA PARSEGHIAN...who went on to FAME at Notre Dame. Ara got all of us construction jobs during the summer so that, even though we were on a "Free Ride"...we STILL needed some "serious bucks" to get us thru the school year at a "spendy campus" like NU.

After my first summer, I discovered there were BETTER ways of making money in a short time. The way "I" found was thru selling 2 sets of encyclopedias a DAY.

Thus...from my early days...I was an "entroopeneer".

Now... back to the question at hand;
YES! Gary Halbert DID make money selling "information" products to ME and thousands of others BUT...only because he had something WORTHWHILE TO BUY!

I...and many thousands of others were willing, in 1986, to send Gary whatever it was for a subscription to HIS newsletter. WHY? Because WE could "sense" that HE...Sir Gary of Halbert had SOMETHING WE WANTED! HE was and still is a, MASTER wordsmith.

Using ONE technique in his NL of 1986 or 87 I was able to FOCUS on MY method of "Remote Marketing".

Via Gary Halbert's Newsletter I was able to clearly understand, and gather the CONFIDENCE to explore OTHER methods of reaching my "target markets"...OTHER THAN thru Direct Contact. (Also known as Person-To-Person sales)

And so...since 1987...due to Gary Halbert's WRITINGS in 1986 thru 1990...I have made a small fortune WITHOUT a bunch of employees.

Now...you should ALSO take a look at someone named JOE SUGARMAN!

Go to Amazon.com and punch in the name "Joe Sugarman" and BUY EVERYTHING LISTED!

WHY? Because Joe is the REAL THING!

And, YES...Wolfgang...Sugarman and many others like him...NOW sell stuff about HOW to do something BUT...what THEY sell is base on ACTUAL experience...under BATTLEFIELD conditions!

GRAB IT! SOAK IT UP! So that SUBCONSCIOUSLY you could...yourself...offer something that will be "remembered" by our society...like these others have done.

Hey! I am going on long here BUT...I felt somewhat "inspired" this eve...just before New Years in 2001...to TRY and offer some TIDBITS of info that could help you or someone reading this to motivate yourself into TAKING A CHANCE!...STICKING YOUR NECK OUT!...GOING FOR THE GUSTO!

Thanks for reading....I hope ONE person may have gotten something from this.

Don Alm

> Can someone name a person who got wealthy by
> applying the principle of self-improvement
> to something other than publishing in the
> area of self-improvement? What I mean is: Is
> there any exponent of a self-improvement
> philosophy who became wealthy through
> something other than a publication success?

> It's not Napoleon Hill, who got his
> financial breakthrough with "Think and
> Grow Rich"; it's Earl Nightingale, who
> did it with "The Strangest Secret"
> and his radio shows (with lots of commercial
> advertising income) and so on. Of course,
> once they had a bestseller, they continued
> making money building on their publicity and
> reputation.

> I like what I hear from people like
> Nightingale or Hill, but is it for real?

> Can you name somebody who made a fortune by
> applying the "commonly touted
> self-improvement principles", but who
> made a fortune in some area other than
> publication/publicity -- say by building a
> multi-million dollar manufacturing company.

> I understand the catch of the situation,
> that those busy applying the principles of
> self-improvement may not have the time or
> inclination to waste time writing and
> publishing about them, and I'm looking
> forward to your insights.

> Wolfgang




Some of my UNIQUE home-based businesses

Thanks for the thourough feedback. And yes, the name is real. Wolfgang is quite a common name in the German speaking countries, particularly Austria (as in the famous Austrian Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart), Germany and Switzerland.

Cheers, and Happy New Year.

Wolfgang

> Wolfgang....(I don't know if that's your
> real name or not BUT...the first
> "Wolfgang" I ever met was at the
> Mount Alyeska Ski Resort outside of
> Anchorage Alaska one snowy, wintery New
> Years Eve.

> We came in for Apres Ski and started doing
> what was known at that time
> as..."zipping down minters". Which
> was a slang term for drinking shots of Creme
> de Menthe. Each person in our group would
> take turns buying a round of "mint
> zippers".

> Thus...after about 8 or 10 rounds (we were
> also eating goodies in between
> toasts)...most of us were "feeling no
> pain". However, we were all in our mid
> 20's at the time and could
> "handle" our drinking.

> Yah...sure!

> Anyway...as the evening progressed in this
> wonderful ski lodge in Alaska on New Years
> Eve...I happen to notice a guy with his
> guitar at the microphone, singing an old
> German folk song.

> We all stop what we're doing and listen to
> this guy singing. His voice was
> beautiful...singing these German folk songs
> in his native tongue.

> The whole crowd was mesmerized by this guy
> and he could also sing American songs. THIS
> guy knew almost every song there was...and
> he kept a crowd of 250 mid-twenties yuppies
> entertained until about 4 in the morn.

> What a wonderful FIRST experience with
> someone named "Wolfgang". (I can't
> remember what his last name was or whatever
> became of him...but for one evening, some 30
> odd yrs ago...a guy named "Wolfgang
> made an indelible impression on me and my
> wife.

> Anyway...back to the question at hand;

> I was introduced to Earl Nightingale by a
> man named W. Clement Stone (founder of
> Success Magazine and United Insurance)

> I hired Earl Nightingale as the
> "entertainment" at my company's
> Christmas Party in 1972 in Chicago. He was
> WONDERFUL! What a motivational speaker. I
> had my entire staff and friends (300 people)
> at a bash I popped for at the Conrad Hilton
> Hotel in Chgo.

> I was making so much money with my security
> company (Securitronics Corp) that I bought
> 17 Mink Stoles (for you younger folks...MINK
> STOLES in the 70's was THE "IN"
> thingee)...and gave them to the WIVES of my
> top salespeople and installers.

> WHAT A NIGHT "THAT" WAS! (Which is
> another story)

> Anyway...back to the "subject at
> hand"; Earl Nightingale was a MASTER
> PSYCHOLOGIST...MASTER SPEAKER...MASTER
> MOTIVATOR. I don't remember how he got his
> MOXEY (moxey is short for
> "know-how") BUT...the guy could
> hold an audience of 300 people in the PALM
> OF HIS HAND.

> And, yes Wolfgang...in his later years he
> did make a bundle "WRITING" about
> "marketing"...but when I met and
> got to know "MR" Nightingale...the
> guy was "for real". He could
> motivate a SLUG to move 10 times faster....a
> "thinker" to "think" 10
> times faster...whatever it was...HE HAD IT!

> Then, he teamed up with others and used his
> MOXEY of motivation and persuasion to sell
> millions of dollars of Tapes and Manuals.

> BUT...when I met and got to know MR
> Nightingale.. HE was a MASTER at what he
> did.

> ALSO...I have to say that a guy named GARY
> HALBERT had a marked influence on MY life.

> Gary learned the HARD WAY...."HOW TO
> SELL AND PERSUADE PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT HE WAS
> SELLING"...thru the venue of
> "Encyclopedias"!

> Where I...yours truly ALSO spent an entire
> summer break from studies at Northwestern
> Univiversity in Evanston, ILL...making BIG
> money by using my BRAIN instead of my BRAWN,
> working construction.

> In my first summer at Northwestern, because
> I was a "jock" on an
> "athletic scholarship"...I TOILED
> at the "usual summer job for
> jocks"...which was CONSTRUCTION LABOR!
> YUK!

> Sure...we made good money...and my coach, by
> the way...was ARA PARSEGHIAN...who went on
> to FAME at Notre Dame. Ara got all of us
> construction jobs during the summer so that,
> even though we were on a "Free
> Ride"...we STILL needed some
> "serious bucks" to get us thru the
> school year at a "spendy campus"
> like NU.

> After my first summer, I discovered there
> were BETTER ways of making money in a short
> time. The way "I" found was thru
> selling 2 sets of encyclopedias a DAY.

> Thus...from my early days...I was an
> "entroopeneer".

> Now... back to the question at hand;
> YES! Gary Halbert DID make money selling
> "information" products to ME and
> thousands of others BUT...only because he
> had something WORTHWHILE TO BUY!

> I...and many thousands of others were
> willing, in 1986, to send Gary whatever it
> was for a subscription to HIS newsletter.
> WHY? Because WE could "sense" that
> HE...Sir Gary of Halbert had SOMETHING WE
> WANTED! HE was and still is a, MASTER
> wordsmith.

> Using ONE technique in his NL of 1986 or 87
> I was able to FOCUS on MY method of
> "Remote Marketing".

> Via Gary Halbert's Newsletter I was able to
> clearly understand, and gather the
> CONFIDENCE to explore OTHER methods of
> reaching my "target
> markets"...OTHER THAN thru Direct
> Contact. (Also known as Person-To-Person
> sales)

> And so...since 1987...due to Gary Halbert's
> WRITINGS in 1986 thru 1990...I have made a
> small fortune WITHOUT a bunch of employees.

> Now...you should ALSO take a look at someone
> named JOE SUGARMAN!

> Go to Amazon.com and punch in the name
> "Joe Sugarman" and BUY EVERYTHING
> LISTED!

> WHY? Because Joe is the REAL THING!

> And, YES...Wolfgang...Sugarman and many
> others like him...NOW sell stuff about HOW
> to do something BUT...what THEY sell is base
> on ACTUAL experience...under BATTLEFIELD
> conditions!

> GRAB IT! SOAK IT UP! So that SUBCONSCIOUSLY
> you could...yourself...offer something that
> will be "remembered" by our
> society...like these others have done.

> Hey! I am going on long here BUT...I felt
> somewhat "inspired" this
> eve...just before New Years in 2001...to TRY
> and offer some TIDBITS of info that could
> help you or someone reading this to motivate
> yourself into TAKING A CHANCE!...STICKING
> YOUR NECK OUT!...GOING FOR THE GUSTO!

> Thanks for reading....I hope ONE person may
> have gotten something from this.

> Don Alm

> Can someone name a person who got wealthy by
> applying the principle of self-improvement
> to something other than publishing in the
> area of self-improvement? What I mean is: Is
> there any exponent of a self-improvement
> philosophy who became wealthy through
> something other than a publication success?

W. Clement Stone.

Sold insurance. Self-Taught! Self-Improved! Built a HUGE network of agents. Trained them personally. Hadn't even read Think And Grow Rich until it was sent to him as a gift. But upon doing so, recognised the work as being the philosophy he followed. And later co-authored work with Hill - Success Through A Positive Mental Attitude.

If you can find it in a second-hand book store, get and read "The Success System That Never Fails" by W. Clement Stone.

Also

Frank Bettger of "How I Raised Myself From Failure To Success In Selling" fame.

Michael Ross.

> Thanks for the thourough feedback. And yes,
YOU are a "Mench"! Which in Jewish Slang means, "Good Guy"!

Have a GREAT NEW YEAR!...and I wish I could remember the last name of the first Wolfgang I ever met that New Years Eve in Mt ALeyeska, Alaska.

Don Alm

> the name is real. Wolfgang is quite a common
> name in the German speaking countries,
> particularly Austria (as in the famous
> Austrian Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart), Germany
> and Switzerland.

> Cheers, and Happy New Year.

> Wolfgang

Don,

I would have to say in all sincerity that your response was the best reply to a posted question I've seen on any forum this year.

A very moving and inspirational response!

If there was an award for best post on the forum business / marketing discussion board scene, IMHO, you deserve the trophy!

May I have your permission to use your response in an article I'm writing?

Warmest Regards & $uccess

Ricky Higgs

Wolfgang,

Great question. I to have wondered just how many success gurus have done anything other than repackaged the principles of the likes of "Think and Grow Rich". Seems everyone has an angle.

I recently learned about Paul J. Meyer who is a legend in the motivation/success arena. But before he became a guru he walked the walk and talked the talk of applying success principals to actual business success. He has very successfully built over 40 extremely successful businesses worldwide which had nothing to do with selling success materials. These are real companies. It was after all this success that he put his experiences into a success/motivation business.

Mitch

> Wolfgang....(I don't know if that's your
> real name or not BUT...the first
> "Wolfgang" I ever met was at the
> Mount Alyeska Ski Resort outside of
> Anchorage Alaska one snowy, wintery New
> Years Eve.

> We came in for Apres Ski and started doing
> what was known at that time
> as..."zipping down minters". Which
> was a slang term for drinking shots of Creme
> de Menthe. Each person in our group would
> take turns buying a round of "mint
> zippers".

> Thus...after about 8 or 10 rounds (we were
> also eating goodies in between
> toasts)...most of us were "feeling no
> pain". However, we were all in our mid
> 20's at the time and could
> "handle" our drinking.

> Yah...sure!

> Anyway...as the evening progressed in this
> wonderful ski lodge in Alaska on New Years
> Eve...I happen to notice a guy with his
> guitar at the microphone, singing an old
> German folk song.

> We all stop what we're doing and listen to
> this guy singing. His voice was
> beautiful...singing these German folk songs
> in his native tongue.

> The whole crowd was mesmerized by this guy
> and he could also sing American songs. THIS
> guy knew almost every song there was...and
> he kept a crowd of 250 mid-twenties yuppies
> entertained until about 4 in the morn.

> What a wonderful FIRST experience with
> someone named "Wolfgang". (I can't
> remember what his last name was or whatever
> became of him...but for one evening, some 30
> odd yrs ago...a guy named "Wolfgang
> made an indelible impression on me and my
> wife.

> Anyway...back to the question at hand;

> I was introduced to Earl Nightingale by a
> man named W. Clement Stone (founder of
> Success Magazine and United Insurance)

> I hired Earl Nightingale as the
> "entertainment" at my company's
> Christmas Party in 1972 in Chicago. He was
> WONDERFUL! What a motivational speaker. I
> had my entire staff and friends (300 people)
> at a bash I popped for at the Conrad Hilton
> Hotel in Chgo.

> I was making so much money with my security
> company (Securitronics Corp) that I bought
> 17 Mink Stoles (for you younger folks...MINK
> STOLES in the 70's was THE "IN"
> thingee)...and gave them to the WIVES of my
> top salespeople and installers.

> WHAT A NIGHT "THAT" WAS! (Which is
> another story)

> Anyway...back to the "subject at
> hand"; Earl Nightingale was a MASTER
> PSYCHOLOGIST...MASTER SPEAKER...MASTER
> MOTIVATOR. I don't remember how he got his
> MOXEY (moxey is short for
> "know-how") BUT...the guy could
> hold an audience of 300 people in the PALM
> OF HIS HAND.

> And, yes Wolfgang...in his later years he
> did make a bundle "WRITING" about
> "marketing"...but when I met and
> got to know "MR" Nightingale...the
> guy was "for real". He could
> motivate a SLUG to move 10 times faster....a
> "thinker" to "think" 10
> times faster...whatever it was...HE HAD IT!

> Then, he teamed up with others and used his
> MOXEY of motivation and persuasion to sell
> millions of dollars of Tapes and Manuals.

> BUT...when I met and got to know MR
> Nightingale.. HE was a MASTER at what he
> did.

> ALSO...I have to say that a guy named GARY
> HALBERT had a marked influence on MY life.

> Gary learned the HARD WAY...."HOW TO
> SELL AND PERSUADE PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT HE WAS
> SELLING"...thru the venue of
> "Encyclopedias"!

> Where I...yours truly ALSO spent an entire
> summer break from studies at Northwestern
> Univiversity in Evanston, ILL...making BIG
> money by using my BRAIN instead of my BRAWN,
> working construction.

> In my first summer at Northwestern, because
> I was a "jock" on an
> "athletic scholarship"...I TOILED
> at the "usual summer job for
> jocks"...which was CONSTRUCTION LABOR!
> YUK!

> Sure...we made good money...and my coach, by
> the way...was ARA PARSEGHIAN...who went on
> to FAME at Notre Dame. Ara got all of us
> construction jobs during the summer so that,
> even though we were on a "Free
> Ride"...we STILL needed some
> "serious bucks" to get us thru the
> school year at a "spendy campus"
> like NU.

> After my first summer, I discovered there
> were BETTER ways of making money in a short
> time. The way "I" found was thru
> selling 2 sets of encyclopedias a DAY.

> Thus...from my early days...I was an
> "entroopeneer".

> Now... back to the question at hand;
> YES! Gary Halbert DID make money selling
> "information" products to ME and
> thousands of others BUT...only because he
> had something WORTHWHILE TO BUY!

> I...and many thousands of others were
> willing, in 1986, to send Gary whatever it
> was for a subscription to HIS newsletter.
> WHY? Because WE could "sense" that
> HE...Sir Gary of Halbert had SOMETHING WE
> WANTED! HE was and still is a, MASTER
> wordsmith.

> Using ONE technique in his NL of 1986 or 87
> I was able to FOCUS on MY method of
> "Remote Marketing".

> Via Gary Halbert's Newsletter I was able to
> clearly understand, and gather the
> CONFIDENCE to explore OTHER methods of
> reaching my "target
> markets"...OTHER THAN thru Direct
> Contact. (Also known as Person-To-Person
> sales)

> And so...since 1987...due to Gary Halbert's
> WRITINGS in 1986 thru 1990...I have made a
> small fortune WITHOUT a bunch of employees.

> Now...you should ALSO take a look at someone
> named JOE SUGARMAN!

> Go to Amazon.com and punch in the name
> "Joe Sugarman" and BUY EVERYTHING
> LISTED!

> WHY? Because Joe is the REAL THING!

> And, YES...Wolfgang...Sugarman and many
> others like him...NOW sell stuff about HOW
> to do something BUT...what THEY sell is base
> on ACTUAL experience...under BATTLEFIELD
> conditions!

> GRAB IT! SOAK IT UP! So that SUBCONSCIOUSLY
> you could...yourself...offer something that
> will be "remembered" by our
> society...like these others have done.

> Hey! I am going on long here BUT...I felt
> somewhat "inspired" this
> eve...just before New Years in 2001...to TRY
> and offer some TIDBITS of info that could
> help you or someone reading this to motivate
> yourself into TAKING A CHANCE!...STICKING
> YOUR NECK OUT!...GOING FOR THE GUSTO!

> Thanks for reading....I hope ONE person may
> have gotten something from this.

> Don Alm

Gary Halbert, in North Canton, Ohio, struggled like most of have trying to make just a little money, or even $1.00 in profit from a mail order campaign.

Like most of us he failed over and over in his attempts, but then with just one small mailing he found his niche. At the time he didn't have two cents to rub together, but from that one little success, he went on to earn millions in direct marketing.

I personally owe Gary Halbert a debt of gratitude.

Back in 1993 or 1994 Gary started writing about this thing called an internet. I never heard of such a thing, but the idea intriqued me.

Of course my only skill at the time was wheelbarrow pushing, and you had to have a computer to get to the internet.

So I bought one. A computer.

Put the dag blamed thing on my credit card, and knew I'd have to do a lot of wheelbarrow pushing to pay off the $2,500. it set me back.

Having never even turned on a computer before, I would sit here late at night and just stare at my computer. I barely knew how to turn it on, and didn't have a clue what I was going to use it for, but Gary said I needed one to get to this internet place. So here I was a computer owner, who was now an additional $2,500. in debt.

THANK YOU GARY HALBERT!

I did what you said, and I finally figured out that internet stuff, and not a day goes by that I don't pull a few bucks, or a few hundred off the net.

Thanks Gary, I will forever love you.
Mike McGroarty
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> Can someone name a person who got wealthy by
> applying the principle of self-improvement
> to something other than publishing in the
> area of self-improvement?

Most people who speak on success have to be successful in something other than publishing or no publisher is willing to even consider publishing them.

Most of the speakers were successful using these principals as former salesmen. Brian Tracy and Tom Hopkins fall into this category. Jim Rohn was a salesmen/ dealmaker.

Anyone who becomes a star in the success education industry makes more money talking about success than running a business that is unrelated.
At $50 to $200 a ticket to speak to 200 to 1,000 people in a room three to six nights a week plus $5000 to $40000 to speak for an hour at a company function how can you make more with such low risk and overhead?

There are many smaller names who are not well known that make much less , and part-time speakers who make more money applying success principals in their business than as speakers. They have to be! Otherwise they would go broke. Most of them started in sales and some are executives.

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