Don Imus and nappy headded hos.....

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey Jim, I'm just curious about YOUR response and your thoughts about the nation's response to this scenario...

Don Imus is commentating on a basketball game that your mom is playing in as well as your sister, your little daughter, the First Lady, and other highly affluent Caucasian women. And he says, "man, these are some really skanky ho bitches."

I really don't think it would bother me if it was done in the same manner as the "nappy headed hos" comment.

Look at the source - Imus - It's just his style and he was trying to be funny and not offensive.

Maybe I've got thicker skin for that kind of stuff than most people but it really doesn't bother me at all.

Now, if it was done in a different context, that would make all the difference in the world. If it was said in an obvious hateful manner, then I would be very offended.

I've personally worked with a lot of Mexicans over the years and we are always making fun of each other and blowing our cultural differences way out of proportion all in the name of fun.

I'm not even going to post here what I call them or what they call me because someone will likely twist it into something that it's not. Let's just say that in a different context, it would be much more offensive than "nappy headed hos" but we all have fun with it and nobody gets offended.

A few years ago I hired a gay guy to manage one of my shops. We were clearly on extreme different ends of the spectrum but we were able to make fun of each other and say things that would likely be called "hate" comments if they were used outside of our conversations.

I've worked very closely (and still do) with a couple of Mormon kids. Don't even get me started there. Those conversations are always just fun and usually end with one of them laughing and saying "You're going straight to hell"

But here's the thing.....

If arguments ever occur, none of that stuff comes into play. We all know that there's a time and a place for it and when to have fun with it and when it's not appropriate.

Some people are obviously not smart enough to understand the difference. Jackson, Sharpton, and their followers come to mind.

BTW - I'm not trying to defend Don Imus's comments and I would say that it was delivered to the wrong audience. I'm just saying that people have made it into a much bigger issue than it should have been and the punishment in this situation far exceeded the "crime"

Jim

You might want to understand the reasons of others who ARE offended especially if what is said CAN be construed as offensive. I'm saying this from one intellectual to another. (Not to start an argument or pick a fight.)

For the most part, we ALL insult or make fun of each other to have a few laughs. But it's usually done in a private manner and with people who know our intentions. However, should you move to a more public forum and say the very same things, they are (or can be) interpreted differently. I'm sure you understand the point I'm making here. Because you know that as much as you trade friendly insults with your Mexican friends, you're smart enough to know that in certain situations you wouldn't dare say those things - for obvious reasons.

By the way, I'm similar to you in that I don't get offended very easily at all -- especially with words. But I do understand that some things can be offensive to some people whether I agree with it or not. And therefore, I'm careful not to pass judgment on the offended.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You might want to understand the reasons of others who ARE offended especially if what is said CAN be construed as offensive. I'm saying this from one intellectual to another. (Not to start an argument or pick a fight.)

I think the reason that most people claim to be offended, is because they are being told that they should be. I understand your point, and I'm sure that a few people would have been offended by his comments, but nothing even close to what we are seeing. People with their own agenda are adding fuel to the fire and taking it way beyond reason.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

(and for those that disagree with me, that statement was far more offensive than Imus's because it was for real)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For the most part, we ALL insult or make fun of each other to have a few laughs. But it's usually done in a private manner and with people who know our intentions. However, should you move to a more public forum and say the very same things, they are (or can be) interpreted differently. I'm sure you understand the point I'm making here. Because you know that as much as you trade friendly insults with your Mexican friends, you're smart enough to know that in certain situations you wouldn't dare say those things - for obvious reasons.

Yes, I totally agree and as I've already said, I think his comment was out of place on his show. I don't think it justified him being fired though, or even a suspension.

He recognized that he said something that he shouldn't have and he apologized for it. It was a sincere and heartfelt apology. It should have ended there, and would have if others didn't blow it up into something it wasn't.

Hi I got fired a few years ago from a school I worked for sometime teaching accounting, taxes, software, and Payroll. There was a teacher that said we could not teach, she meant all the teachers but her. I went crazy. And when she went buy I gave her a Forearm salute forearm over foream someone told the owner and I gotted canned. Then I went full time in my business which I also had at the same time.

I make more money now than he paid me. Don Imus is a millionaire he has nothing to worry about. I wasn't a millionaire.

Maybe their were other reasons you gotted canned...

Originally Posted by Joetrevison

Hi I got fired a few years ago from a school I worked for sometime teaching accounting, taxes, software, and Payroll. There was a teacher that said we could not teach, she meant all the teachers but her. I went crazy. And when she went buy I gave her a Forearm salute forearm over foream someone told the owner and I gotted canned. Then I went full time in my business which I also had at the same time.

I make more money now than he paid me. Don Imus is a millionaire he has nothing to worry about. I wasn't a millionaire.