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Old June 18, 2003, 02:37 PM
Alexander, HypnoticProfit.com
 
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Default A Mind Once Stretched Re: The Advantage of No Advantage

"A mind once stretched by a new idea never regains its original dimensions."

Michael, you're amazing to make us think, thanks -I wonder if you 'torture' people around you this way :-)

Immigrants have cultivated a THINKING PROCESS/HABIT of living on essentials with the money they have back in their country. When they arrive in the 'better' new country, not only they have no debt, they CAN live on 'minimum wages' (minimum wages IN THE NEW COUNTRY - could be MAXIMUM back in their country) because that's
what they have been doing.

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Old June 17, 2003, 07:28 PM
Hal Olney
 
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Default Re: Succeed or die?

In the words of the Big Bopper,

"I KNOWWWWWWW What I Want!"
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Old June 17, 2003, 11:33 PM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default Succeed or die or...

They know they want to live in the new country. They think life will be better there.

Often, life in their new country is better - even if they have moved there from another western country.

Even if they struggle they will not die. Even if the government won't let them have welfare they will not die. There are plenty of charities to assist in a time of need.

So "succeed or die" is not reality.

And it isn't something other people experience later in life...

Michael Ross
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Old June 17, 2003, 05:32 AM
Philip Langley
 
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Default Re: Migrant Success Secrets

Not sure if this is always true, but I would think that migrants have no expectation that someone would support them, would bale them out if things got tough. They have total self-reliance.

Someone said it on a tape I once heard called "Ten reasons why most people fail financially". One of them was

"a crippling sense of entitlement"

(or at least that's what I THINK it was - something like that anyway!)

Philip
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Old June 17, 2003, 06:08 AM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default Immigrations laws prevent welfare cases

> Not sure if this is always true, but I would
> think that migrants have no expectation that
> someone would support them, would bale them
> out if things got tough. They have total
> self-reliance.

Can't say what Australia's immigration laws are because I have never bothered looking at them - after all, I live here. But both the US and the UK have rules that, if enforced, prevent any social welfare cases. That is... prevent someone just lobbing up on the doorstep and going on welfare.

There are also age restrictions on work permits with vacations. They figure above a certain age and you aren't on vacation, you are looking to settle. So they won't give you a vacation work permit.

> Someone said it on a tape I once heard
> called "Ten reasons why most people
> fail financially". One of them was

> "a crippling sense of entitlement"

True. Do you recall anything else that might have applied to why an immigrant would succeed and a natural born not?

Michael Ross
  #6  
Old June 17, 2003, 07:33 AM
Anonymous
 
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Default Okay - is it....

..."There's no rush to be successful" ?

That's the only thing in Karol's response that hasn't been beaten to death so far.

Just give us the answer d*mmit }:(

"}:(" is "Aussie" for "getting annoyed at this string" (no I'm not from Australia - but figured I'd speak to Michael in his native tongue - haaaaarhahahah!!!)

-Anon

p.s.- the above was a joke Michael - so don't go firing a poison pen "get it?" type post ;-)
  #7  
Old June 17, 2003, 08:06 AM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default Nope

> ..."There's no rush to be
> successful" ?

Nope.

> That's the only thing in Karol's response
> that hasn't been beaten to death so far.

Not quite.

> Just give us the answer d*mmit }:(

I'll give you another clue...

They have this advantage by the nature of being a migrant. Whether they like it or not. Thus, it is not a skill or any other mystical Napolean-Hill-Anthony-Robbins-Mumbo-Jumbo.

Michael Ross
  #8  
Old June 17, 2003, 08:12 AM
Anonymous
 
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Default AHHHH!!!! (Frustrated scream) (DNO)

  #9  
Old June 17, 2003, 07:42 AM
Steve Shulenski
 
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Default The real advantage?

> Do you recall anything else that might have applied to why an immigrant would succeed and a natural born not?

Is it the fact that the immigrant is willing to pay the price of success...to do whatever it takes...while the natural born thinks that certain actions are beneath them so they wait for conditions to be right while the immigrant is willing to do whatever he has to get what he or she wants?

Steve Ski
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Old June 17, 2003, 08:13 AM
Michael Ross (Aust, Qld)
 
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Default Oo Oo.. nah...

> Is it the fact that the immigrant is willing
> to pay the price of success...to do whatever
> it takes...while the natural born thinks
> that certain actions are beneath them so
> they wait for conditions to be right while
> the immigrant is willing to do whatever he
> has to get what he or she wants?

Okay... try this...

They arrive in the country and take a minimum wage job. And they are able to survive on that minimum wage job.

WHY are they able to survive on the minimum wage job?

"They are able to survive on a minimum wage job because they... (insert thing here)"

Michael Ross
 


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