Migrant Success Secrets

Okay... try this...

"They are able to survive on a minimum wage job because they...Sacrifice" They may not want to... after all who does if they don't have to... but they must... so they do. And the self-discipline that was forced on them becomes a habit that turns into a very big advantage.

Steve Ski

> "They are able to survive on a minimum
> wage job because they...Sacrifice" They
> may not want to... after all who does if
> they don't have to... but they must... so
> they do. And the self-discipline that was
> forced on them becomes a habit that turns
> into a very big advantage.

Steve:

I like your thinking... what is forced upon them by their situation becomes habit.

Let me ask... what are they sacraficing? And why are they being forced to?

Michael Ross

> Steve:

> I like your thinking... what is forced upon
> them by their situation becomes habit.

> Let me ask... what are they sacraficing? And
> why are they being forced to?

> Michael Ross

Sure Mike,

They sacrifice comfort and luxuries. Eating in a nice restaurant is a very comfortable thing to do.

If all you earn is minimum wage would you be able to blow $30 on one luxury meal or would you be forced by necessity to make ten brown bag meals with the $30?

So yes they may have to self discipline themselves to eat no chocolate at least for a time so one day they won't have to sacrifice the chocolate.

Hunger is a great motivator and motivation is an advantage because it inspires you to take the actions or steps to success.

How hungry are you for success?

Enough to do what most people won't?

The rich get rich because they are motivated to do the simple things many won't.

They practice spending less than they earn and invest so they will have money work for them.

The poor work for money and if all they do is spend every dime they will stay poor. That doesn't make them complete failures. It's just a bad habit that can be changed for most of us IF you are hungry enough to move out of your comfort zone and grow.

Years ago in the USA new immigrants fresh off the boat were called Greenbacks or Greenies. They came seeking the almighty green Dollar but they where also green and growing because when a Migrant first arrives in a new country he or she is forced into operating outside of his or her comfort zone. That is if they want to continue to eat. So they are forced into realizing that they had better do whatever they can to save up for a rainy day. That takes self discipline because nobody else is going to do it for them.

The rich understand and practice this self discipline and most people will one day wake up and realize that they too need to practice this. But it may be to late to save up for a rainy day when you are no longer able to work for money.

Better to have money work for you.

Does money make you successful?

That I guess depends on what success means to you.

So, please tell me Michael...

Am I right or am I wrong or somewhere in between?

Steve Ski




http://www.scienceofgettingrich.net

> WHY are they able to survive on the minimum
> wage job?

> "They are able to survive on a minimum
> wage job because they... (insert thing
> here)"

... have no debt and stay out of debt?

Assuming they aren't caught up in one of those scams where they end up working in sweatshops to pay of someone who smuggled them into the country...

When they enter their new home, they (presumably) have no debts. And, assuming they aren't coming from another capitalist society, it probably hasn't been ingrained in them that they "have" to go into debt (i.e., for cars, homes, higher education, business start-up, etc.).

Am I close? Do I have a clue? 8^}

> ... have no debt and stay out of debt?

> When they enter their new home, they
> (presumably) have no debts. And, assuming
> they aren't coming from another capitalist
> society, it probably hasn't been ingrained
> in them that they "have" to go
> into debt (i.e., for cars, homes, higher
> education, business start-up, etc.).

Actually, even if they are coming from another capitalist society, they do start out without debt, don't they?

Why is that an advantage?

Michael Ross

Michael,

"they knew what they wanted and did what they could to get there."

Pete Godfrey

> There seems to be an imbalance to success
> when migrants are added to the numbers.

> From the outside, migrants appear to have a
> higher proportion of successful people from
> their numbers than people born within the
> country.

> And this out-of-whack ratio applies to all
> western countries - migrants succeed in
> Australia more than Australians, migrants
> succeed in the US more than people born in
> the US, migrants succeed in the UK more than
> people born there.

> We can, in an initial and dismissive way,
> attribute this to some kind of work ethic -
> they work harder.

> And while that may be the case, that would
> be an observed result of something else.

> In other words... they tend to do jobs other
> people don't want to do. They tend to do
> menial tasks. "Idiot work." Often,
> it is thought, they do these jobs because
> they don't have the formal qualifications to
> do anything better (but what does
> "better" mean?).

> And while that may be true, there are many
> natural born citizens who also work those
> jobs and who do not succeed.

> Without formal qualifications many start
> their own little businesses. But again, if
> starting a business was all that mattered
> than plenty of natural born citizens would
> also go on to the success migrants do. But
> it doesn't happen.

> As a group, more successes come from
> migrants than from other groups.

> Why is it so?

> There is one thing all migrants have in
> common that gives them an advantage over
> natural born citizens. It is something all
> natural born citizens can also have, if they
> want to.

> Before I reveal it I want to hear what
> others think it is...

> So why do migrants tend to succeed more so
> than natural born citizens?

> Michael Ross

> "they knew what they wanted and did
> what they could to get there."

This is also true. How is that an advantage though?

It's an advantage they have the moment they arrive in the new country.

Michael Ross

The immigrant arrives in a country with boundless opportunities...He has no pre-conceived notion about what is "good" or "bad'...Since he has "nothing" he views "anything" as a step up...He has a "can do" attitude and "failure" is NOT an option!...He doesn't say, "I can't do that" or "That will not work" as many native born do...He is not thinking that if he does not succeed the "government" will "bail him out"...So I guess you could say that "attitude" is everything here...

Rooster
www.rockerwisdom.com

This is also true. How is that an advantage
> though?

> It's an advantage they have the moment they
> arrive in the new country.

> Michael Ross




"Don’t get ripped off!"...

This "attitude" is too Tony-Robbin-esk for my liking.

In a western country there is always a fall back safety net. It might not be the government. It might be a charity of some kind. Whatever it is, it is there.

Remember too... this "thing" is something most people do eventually get later in life but it is too late for them to do anything with - mostly.

I don't see this "attitude" in older people. In fact, if anything, they become more welfare focused cause they just gots to get their "pension."

Michael Ross