Have you seen "The Secret"

[GordonJ]

is of the same opinion still".


Gordon, you're on the right track for the most part.

I take exception to this Sandi, as if there were a "right" track. Allow me to explain.


My experiences have taught me slightly different interpretations but we're probably enough in agreement to not need the big grin to disagree.

Your EXPERIENCES are just that, YOURS. You own them, and they are what they are.

When I did the SQ1, I needed to take my personal experiences out of equation and look for reality...something that applies to everyone everywhere.

I KNOW that any person in the world who is tossed off a bridge is going to go DOWN.

I KNOW that for a FACT. Although there are those who are on drugs, perhaps, who BELIEVE they can fly...and thus the splat when they hit the ground.

As for the supernatural stuff...it isn't super anything...just a matter of learning to use what one has been given. That's all I do...

I have no way of knowing what you do Sandi, so I can't comment on it. But the universal FACT, that I know to be true is we are NOT all created equal...perhaps you did come into your life with "gifts" others of us may not have.

nothing super about it...it is, in fact, totally natural.

Again, I don't know what you are referencing, but I do disagree with the idea that we all have the same "natural" abilities. We don't.


Children are born with much more capability than they eventually acknowledge because socially unaccepted notions, knowledge, and behaviors are suppressed in them by parents, peers, and circumstances.

All children? How do you measure capability? I do agree that we become products of our environment and the influences of our early childhood, coupled with our innate (read genetic) specifications. . I don't know what socially unaccepted notions are...And are you talking about Western notions?

If there's any secret to all this it is the simple fact that people generally only use 10% or less of their mental capacity...

How is this a fact? How has this 10% use of mental capacity been shown? There have been very limited studies, extremely biased studies and a lot of speculation and hyperbole on the 10% so called fact...IT isn't a fact, however, I'll give you the idea that MOST of us don't fulfill our full potential, fair enough?


and this makes all the difference in the way life for them, and those they influence, manifests itself.

I agree not using all you've got makes a difference in a lot of lives, I'd also present the idea that most people are using the best they've got at the time.


Yes, that is the correct use of the word manifest...that which is, or becomes, apparent. Nothing secret, nothing magical, nothing supernatural.

All life is manifestation Sandi, right? The SQ1 concerns itself with CONTROLLED manifestation...that which becomes apparent by ONE's effort and activity.

I realize that most of what I write will be misunderstood or misinterpreted by the majority, if not all, but that's one of the hazards of trying to discuss that which people have no, or very little, preparation for.

Are you really trying to have a discussion? It doesn't feel that way to me. But I could be wrong. I'm trying very hard NOT to misunderstand or misinerpret what you are saying...but I'm struggling with what that is.


I just accept it and move on. If, eventually in response to an event, a new way of thinking or reacting to something happens in a life, then all have gained for no one is an island unto themselves.

Again, this no one is an island isn't a fact or universally accepted truth. There are lots of islands out there. We (the Western World) have pert near made most of Africa an island with our lack of response to events taking place there.

And as for new way of thinking or reacting, what has been gained? By whom?

The social butterfly or the hermit, and everyone in-between, influence their environment and others either by their presence or absence.

How have the millions of starving children in Africa influenced their environment? How have the millions of repressed, poverty stricken people in China influenced their environment? They are all PRESENT and accounted for, and for the most part totally ignored.

I'd love to have a discussion with you Sandi regarding this. Are you willing to share what experiences you're referring to?

My experiences have taught me that I don't have definitive answers, I don't KNOW...except what I know.

Gordon Jay Alexander

Would love to another time, Gordon. Right now I'm very concerned with surviving and getting the operations done that urgently need to be.

Let's let it go for now and resume later if/when we both have the time, shall we?

Thanks!

Sandi Bowman

[Glenn]

Hi,

Thanks.

We're testing this topic right now in 2 different Mastermind Networks.

You may Find that focused thoughts (The Secret) seem to Surface new For-Profit ideas. (This happens with me.)

Here is a wedding photographer
who just Attracted 10K
with his Thoughts...

I think he was running a non-performing ad. The only change he made was his THINKING. Boom. He made 2 sales.

(For us - New *Thinking Plus Action* always has a Quantum Income effect.)

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Photographer Gets 6 Leads and Attracts 10,000
by Focusing his Thoughts.

Good morning Glenn,

2 weeks ago when I started practicing putting my intentions out, I decided that I wanted to sell our two float tanks. I make most of my income as a wedding photographer, but I haven't been shooting (not many people get married during the winter in Chicago) so I'm not bringing in much money right now.

Selling the float tanks would inject a nice boost of cash, which is why I focused on that.

Within a week I got 6 calls from interested buyers! Compare this to getting maybe 1 email every couple months from a mildly interested person. Two of the people who called are serious and it looks like we're going to conclude the deal within a week.

I just woke up 5 minutes ago. Before I got up, I spent a couple minutes thinking about what I really want. I've been feeling very disconnected from people lately, so I decided that I want to induce a change within myself that will result in my being able to connect with people on a deeper level than I normally do.

I remembered that I had to return a couple emails so I logged on. I had just received the email I've copied below. It was clear that I had to write you right away when I read the words " Learn the Secrets of How to Connect With People" only 2 minutes after deciding that's what I wanted!

Thank you for connecting with me!

Francisco

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Thanks,
Glenn Osborn
Rentamentor

P.S. - We've been masterminding specific things you can say and think and do - that make the Moolah Attraction ideas in The Secret Profitable.

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It was actually written several years before Mr. Hill even had a thought of TAGR (1910) yet many (several) of the ideas are exactly the same. The defference is The Science of Getting Rich really expands on the concepts and makes it all SO much more concievable and understandable. (By the way, Napolean Hill got his parking spaces too by sending NormHill out in advance. Ref. The Science of Personal Achievement, Nightingale Conant).

When you relate what it says to biblical ideas about life, again, it's like putting what you've read for years under a microscope and makes it all so much easier to understand.

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[Glenn]

Dear Andy,

Thanks.

One of my customers actually attended several of Napoleon Hill's Law of Success Programs.

He describes his amazement.

Before class he'd stand out in front of the hotel.

Suddenly people would come hurrying from different directions. Jump in their cars. ONLY in the front row - mind you.

And

8 or 10 of the cars closest to the hotel entrance would drive away.

Then Napoleon Hill - in his 80's at the time - would drive up. Park in front and get out. Stroll in to begin class.

Kind of amazing that we're not that far away from the time of Napoleon Hill and Andrew Carnegie.

Thanks,
Glenn Osborn
Big Red Nose NLP Testing Club
[email protected]

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We Believe everything that we Know...we don't Know everything we Believe.

Doc Jakson

Yes, I bought and seen the secrets. But Hill and Stone long ago talked about it. So does the bible. It is not a secret for us that studied Hill for years. It is old stuff. But good stuff that works.

Just spotted this thread in passing about my old friend 'The Secret'.

Here's my contribution to the controversy:

http://www.parental-intelligence.com/thesecret.html