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Thanks for the very informative post.
These interest only loans, (I never heard of them b4) are available in the US???? I know if I were to lend anyone money (even secured) I would want interest and principal repaid).... > Andras: > Real estate cycles. There are cycles of > slow growth and periods of fast growth . > Interest rates are sometimes low and > sometimes high. > And everytime the cycle re-cycles, people > are surprised for some reason. Go figure. > To protect yourself from these cycles, > consider these points: > Do not buy if rent does not cover > expenses (interest, principle, taxes, > insurance, repairs). > While you can feed an alligator (negative > geared house which costs more than the > income it generates), the moment You have a > loss of income - or just a drop of income - > you will be in financial trouble. The loan > doesn't care about you or your > circumstances. It just wants - demands - to > be paid. > The real estate investing highway is > littered with the dreams of many investors > who went the negative cash flow negative > gearing route. > Never sell . In the example of using > interest only loans, the idea is to NEVER > SELL. By holding onto your properties you > will have them through a cycle. > If you had bought in a slow growth year, you > will hold them for ten years or so, right > through the fast growth period until the > growth slows again. > The downturn will not be a concern for you > because your expenses are covered because > you only bought positive cash flow > properties. > Ten years ago, the real estate market peaked > down here where I live. For the last ten or > so years, prices have not grown much. > Recently, they began to pick up again and > many "investors" quickly > off-loaded their properties. > They held onto them while growth was slow > and got rid of them before growth got fast. > As soon as they saw a little growth, they > were out. Of course, these people also > bought at the peak prices all those years > ago. > If your property is in positve cash flow you > won't care too much how the growth is. It > will matter, but not as much as it matters > to someone who has negative cash flow. > Buy in growth areas where demand exceeds > supply . > I know of places in Australia where you can > buy a nice three bed house built in 1890 on > five acres for around $40,000A (about > $23,000US). > A five bed house just around the corner from > where I live, which was built in the '70s, > is for sale for $429,000A (about > $250,000US). The block is smaller than one > quarter acre. And the house is nothing > special. > Some people in this area pay $290 a week > rent for a single bed apartment. Others pay > $170 a week for the same thing. That's > $730-$1,250 a month (about $430-$730 US) for > a single bed apartment. > And rents just keep going up. Sometimes by > as much as 25% - There are instances where > people paying $200 a week ($860 a month) > have had their rents increased to $250 a > week ($1080 a month). Considering the > average Australian income is about $500A a > week - despite the "official" > averages which no-one seems to earn - this > rent is about half of what a normal person > earns. But they pay it, because they WANT to > live here. And if they don't, there is > always someone immediately available to move > in. > Many investors report HUGE numbers of people > wanting to rent their properties. It is not > uncommon for 50+ people to respond to a > single "for rent" ad. > This is the residential market where I live. > The commercial market is vastly different. I > know of modern buildings in prime positions > which have 64% vacancy! And while this goes > on, more office complexes rise up. It's > investing madness. > Know your area . Where I live (The Gold > Coast, Australia), many properties are sold > to "investors" who travel up here > from Sydney. Compared to Sydney, the prices > here are cheap. But those investors don't > really know if they are buying in a good > area, or in a bad area. > Recently, our local authorities changed the > name of one street because it had a bad > "rep." The locals know the area > and still refer to the street by its old > name. So it made no difference to them. > Those who travel up here don't know if the > street is a good one or a bad one as they > are only here for a short time. So why the > street name was really changed is a mystery. > There are places here where you can buy a 2 > bed apartment for about $70,000A (about > $41,000US). The area where these cheap > places are is known locally as "The > Ghetto." That's not its real name... > that's its nick name. > Investors from out of the area are the usual > buyers of these places because they don't > know the area. Though they very quickly > learn once the repair bills start arriving > ;o) > Don't buy in "bad" areas . A bad > area is not necessarily a slum area. It's an > area where vacancy rates are high. Even in a > growth city where general demand exceeds > supply you will find areas of high vacancy. > These areas are often privately owned > housing which borders government owned > housing estates - no-one wants to live next > door to the habitually unemployed, single > mothers popping out kid after kid, and the > other welfare society crowd no matter how > cheap the rent. > What you end up with is borderline welfare > people renting these places out for similar > prices to what they would pay for government > housing. Vacancy rates are high. > I know of one place about half an hour drive > away where you can buy 2 bed apartments for > about $45,000A (about $26,000US) and which > rent is around $65 a week (about $280A, > $165US a month). Even at such cheap rent, > vacancy can be as high as 50% - 50% of the > time the property will be without a tenant. > And landlords try all kinds of incentives to > attract tenants - one month free rent, for > example. > You can only know this kind of information > if you know your area, or study the area. > Be patient when buying . If you are buying > one property a year there is no rush to > acquire. You have ample time to do your > research. To run the numbers. To make sure > you are buying a property for positive cash > flow and that that property is in a good > growth area where demand exceeds supply. > If the numbers do not make sense do not buy. > Know your investment strategy BEFORE you > buy . Will you be buying and holding - thus > giving you great positive cash flow in the > future as well as the option of borrowing > back the equity while the rents cover the > loan? Will you be trying to buy and sell > repeatedly and profit that way? What do you > intend to do with the money the investment > makes you? > Will the investment income be used solely to > live on? To buy more investments? Toys? > Vacations? Other? > Terry outlined his basic strategy - buy and > hold over a number of years. Then at some > point in the future, sell the older houses > and use the cashed out equity to pay off the > loans of the newer houses. Thus being free > of debt the rent is all yours to keep (bar > insurance, taxes and repairs). I am certain > he has a strategy for how that money, once > free of its debt obligations, will be used > by him. > The property acquisition method I outlined > is different. And use of the borrowed equity > is something I also have plans for - I know > what it will be spent on. > Do you want your real estate income to > replace your job income? How soon do you > want this to happen? > Many people are taken in with "no money > needed" type strategies. Some of the > techniques are valid. Others aren't. And > many people are interested in immediate and > high returns - the lure of flipping a > property within 30 days for a $15,000 profit > and no money needed to do the deal. > Some people have the wherewithal to do these > "deals." Others attracted to them > are desperate and are looking for a magic > bean to fix all their problems. > No-one wants to be told, "Here's how to > do it but it will take ten years." > Sure, they'll read it, but it doesn't appear > to be quick enough for them. And yet, the > slow and steady method is also the least > "risky" and causes the least > "stress". > Keep it simple . The more complex > something is, the greater the chance you > will not do it. > Doing a "Subject To" deal with > "Lease Options" and tenant buyers > thrown in (which will then be taken through > a refinancing process later), all covered > within a Land Trust with a Company as a > Trustee, and using "hard money" to > finance any "rehab" work you need > done, is about as complex as you can get. > Ten percent deposit with an interest only > loan and renters is about as simple as they > come. > Start small . Before you get hold of a > six-plex make sure you have first hand > experience. Get hold of one property first. > Not a large expensive one. Just a middle of > the road property the average Joe would live > in. > It ain't flash. It ain't pretty. It ain't > gonna impress anyone. But it sure does work. > After your first "small" deal, do > another one. A little bigger if you want to, > but not necessary. > You are not in competition with anyone. And > you do not have to impress anyone. You will > most likely never reach the level Donald > Trump has reached. Or the levels of all the > full-time investors you read about who do > 100 deals a year. You might. But you most > probably will not. > But this comes down to your strategy - slow, > steady and plain with little risk, or > high-flying high-risk fast and complex > deals. > Do not invest in sole industry towns . A > town which survives and exists because of > one industry or big business fits this. > These towns are dangerous to the real estate > investor. What happens if the company folds > or moves, or if the market for the company's > products declines? > You end up with over-supply and > under-demand. > The logging town where the greenies have > made the authorities cease all logging. The > mining town where the resource has all been > mined. The town which supports the purple > bippy dippy factory is doomed once people > learn that purple bippy dippies cause cancer > and stop buying. The town that only survives > due to tourism. > Be free of personal debt before you > start investing . Have clear credit cards > and no personal loans for cars, boats, > furniture, or other items that go down in > value. > Being free of personal debt first might seem > like a hassle. But the process you go > through to achieve the "debt free" > status teaches you skills in money > management. It also shows lenders that you > can handle debt and money. > Looking to real estate as a financial savior > is a mistake many people make. You can see > them at the court house every day filing for > bankruptcy. > Get control of your personal finances FIRST. > BEFORE investing. It will save a lot of > grief later on when you have a financial > hiccup - yes, that's "when" you > have a financial hiccup and not > "if", because you will have some > kind of financial hiccup for a plethora of > reasons. > For instance: If you have one property which > was covering costs and your tenant has to > move and you cannot find a new tenant for > one month, where will you find the money to > pay the loan, run the "for lease" > ads, do any repairs needed, and still pay > your car loan, credit card bill, boat loan, > and your furniture loan? > Take out insurance . There are insurance > products available for all kinds of things, > including loss of rent income in investment > properties. If they are reasonably priced, > consider getting them on your property. If > the premium is equal to one month's rent, > then put the money aside yourself without > taking out a policy. > These are some of the things to consider > and make sure you have answers to before > investing in real estate. Cover these, and > it virtually won't matter what the market > does. You won't be adversely effected. > Hope this helps. > Michael Ross |
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